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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • #5822
    walshyn93
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    alastair wrote: »
    "As a whole"?

    Perhaps you can post up the bit where she specifies that this description applies to every Trump supporter? Because I must have missed it.

    "People who support Donald Trump"


  • #5823
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    walshyn93 wrote: »
    "People who support Donald Trump"

    And? Anything that suggests that's a universal description?


  • #5824
    walshyn93
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    alastair wrote: »

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W9oxStBtHE

    Where is the "abuse" that was shouted?

    When someone does that at a Trump rally he says "get em out." She goes on a rant about Trump supporters and their dark divisive beliefs.


  • #5825
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    walshyn93 wrote: »
    Where is the "abuse" that was shouted?

    When someone does that at a Trump rally he says "get em out." She goes on a rant about Trump supporters and their dark divisive beliefs.

    "Bill Clinton is a rapist". Sounds pretty abusive to me.

    Helpfully this info is typed out in a big panel in the video. Not too sure how you managed to miss both hearing and reading said abusive heckler.


  • #5826
    walshyn93
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    alastair wrote: »
    And? Anything that suggests that's a universal description?

    She attacks not just their behaviour which is confined to people who act out but she also condemns their "vision" which is a clear attack on anyone who supports Trumps vision for America.

    She's sick and tired of people thinking a certain way.

    And this tirade was unprovoked and unhinged. Someone saying Bills a rapist is not a segue into muh dark vision.


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  • #5827
    walshyn93
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    alastair wrote: »
    "Bill Clinton is a rapist". Sounds pretty abusive to me.

    Helpfully this info is typed out in a big panel in the video. Not too sure how you managed to miss both hearing and reading said abusive heckler.

    That's not what I would consider shouting abuse.

    Unless you're prepared to accept that hecklers at Trump rallies are also abusive.


  • #5828
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    walshyn93 wrote: »
    She attacks not just their behaviour which is confined to people who act out but she also condemns their "vision" which is a clear attack on anyone who supports Trumps vision for America.

    You do realise that this makes not one iota of sense?


  • #5829
    walshyn93
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    alastair wrote: »
    You do realise that this makes not one iota of sense?

    :)


  • #5830
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    walshyn93 wrote: »
    That's not what I would consider shouting abuse.

    Best of luck with that. It is, however, an abusive heckle.


  • #5831
    20Cent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    walshyn93 wrote: »
    How is that an excuse to go on a tirade about Trump supporters as a whole?

    How does digital literacy come into this? I tried asking my minder who I dictate these posts to and she has no idea what you're on about either.

    Why don't you post the full clip since I'm so digitally illiterate and need you to find it, and we'll see if the context makes it any better, smartypants.

    She doesn't go on about Trump supporters as a whole.

    In future if you see a video that is cropped strangely, slowed down/speeded up, starts in the middle of something or that doesn't provide any context. Be sure that someone somewhere is sitting back looking at their vid go viral laughing at all the people sharing it.


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  • #5832
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,992 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Walshyn93 banned for one week.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #5833
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787060280832380928

    Democrats prepared fake grope under the meeting craigslist ad.

    Missed this one when it came out, more conniving attempts on Trump.


  • #5834
    20Cent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787060280832380928

    Democrats prepared fake grope under the meeting craigslist ad.

    Missed this one when it came out, more conniving attempts on Trump.

    You can tell thats a joke right?


  • #5835
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    20Cent wrote: »
    You can tell thats a joke right?

    The end part of the email chain yes, the rest not. Wikileaks posted it after all.


  • #5836
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    The end part of the email chain yes, the rest not. Wikileaks posted it after all.

    The entire thing is a joke. The only non joke element of the email is the signing off on the joke. I'm not sure what you're suggesting is serious? It's not a joke because Wikileaks posted it?


  • #5837
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    alastair wrote: »
    The entire thing is a joke. The only non joke element of the email is the signing off on the joke. I'm not sure what you're suggesting is serious? It's not a joke because Wikileaks posted it?

    There's already been leaks of the democrats plotting to create violence and disturbances at Trump rallies, sorry not going down that road.


  • #5838
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    There's already been leaks of the democrats plotting to create violence and disturbances at Trump rallies, sorry not going down that road.

    No there has not. And you're still not explaining why this whole thing is not a joke. It's patently obvious it's a joke.


  • #5839
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    alastair wrote: »
    No there has not. And you're still not explaining why this whole thing is not a joke. It's patently obvious it's a joke.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/25/trump-campaign-video-shows-clinton-coordinated-with-liberal-group-to-incite-crowds.html

    ?


  • #5840
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/25/trump-campaign-video-shows-clinton-coordinated-with-liberal-group-to-incite-crowds.html

    ?

    Does it really need to be pointed out that this doesn't actually support your claim? An allegation from the Trump camp isn't any sort of evidence of the Democrats plotting to provoke violence.

    Still not prepared to clarify where the obvious joke, is not actually a joke?


  • #5841
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    I guess we just see things differently.


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  • #5842
    Polo_Mint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    Why dont the Republicans run both Trey Gowdy and Jason Chaffetz as P and VP nominees in elections?


  • #5843
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Has anyone a link to show where a Republican Party elected front or middle ranker of any substance has been at a Trump rally to support him in the past two weeks? I'm looking at Bernie standing up for Hillary at her NC rally yesterday, and he was her major in-party opponent for office.

    Edit: I know that by now, Don is standing almost as a populist "Mr Smith goes to Washington" person going to clean up the set there, as they've (all parties) betrayed the public and that can't make any of them happy as he's casting a giant shadow on them, so to speak.


  • #5844
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,963 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    There's already been leaks of the democrats plotting to create violence and disturbances at Trump rallies, sorry not going down that road.

    Not something the Reps would partake in of course ;)


  • #5845
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,261 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    aloyisious wrote: »
    Has anyone a link to show where a Republican Party elected front or middle ranker of any substance has been at a Trump rally to support him in the past two weeks? I'm looking at Bernie standing up for Hillary at her NC rally yesterday, and he was her major in-party opponent for office.

    Edit: I know that by now, Don is standing almost as a populist "Mr Smith goes to Washington" person going to clean up the set there, as they've (all parties) betrayed the public and that can't make any of them happy as he's casting a giant shadow on them, so to speak.

    Ted Cruz voted for and rallied for Trump this week.


  • #5846
    nc6000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭nc6000


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Ted Cruz voted for and rallied for Trump this week.

    Without once mentioning Trump's name.


  • #5847
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,261 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Without once mentioning Trump's name.

    Kinda funny to be voting for him, going to rallies for him and for you to think he is not endorsing him.
    See I never mentioned his name either. No big deal.


  • #5848
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    I think when you have both the FBI and Wikileaks doing everything possible to get Trump elected then you have to accept that its looking like death by a thousand cuts for Hilary.

    With so many undecided voters looking to be pushed either way its very easy for the FBI and Wikileaks to come in and muddy the waters sufficiently to swing it in Trumps favour.

    Last Fridays announcement being a prime example. No actual proof of wrong doing on Clintons part was required in order to deliver huge damage.


  • #5849
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    There's already been leaks of the democrats plotting to create violence and disturbances at Trump rallies, sorry not going down that road.

    You do understand this is not true

    Likewise, if Trump wins (and he might), suddenly all the "rigged voting" conspiracies will disappear into thin air - why? because they aren't true

    His supporters will also instantly forget and forgive all these theories - and he knows that. It's a win-win for him, so why shouldn't he use these tactics if he can get away with it.

    It's pretty grim viewing for everyone who can see through all of this though.


  • #5850
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's the usual bottom of the barrel stuff. Assange lost any shred of objectivity a long time ago, the man is on a mission to do as much damage to the US political establishment as he can.
    Assange a few weeks ago: "I will not reveal the exact date but I can promise you this, I will bring Hillary down before the debate stage on September 26th."

    Assange now: “My analysis is that Trump would not be permitted to win. Why do I say that? Because he has had every establishment off his side. Trump does not have one establishment, maybe with the exception of the Evangelicals, if you can call them an establishment,” said Assange. “Banks, intelligence, arms companies, foreign money, etc. are all united behind Hillary Clinton. And the media as well. Media owners, and the journalists themselves.”

    Who exactly did Assange think was going to beat Trump, if not Hillary? Gary Johnson?


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  • #5851
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Assange is so full of **** its embarrassing to listen to at this stage.

    Hopefully he will just disappear again next Wed.


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