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Tragic situation involving a neighbour's cat

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    #62
    darkpagandeath
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    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Think of all the wild song birds that your dog has saved.

    Cats.


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    #63
    [Deleted User]
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    I was full sure that the pic attached was going to be of the mangled pussy cat!!


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    #64
    Advbrd
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Cats.
    ???


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    #65
    [Deleted User]
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    magentis wrote: »
    Ridiculous when you think about it.surely cat owners should be legally obliged to keep their animals under control on their own property.

    But cats roam. And let's face it, you don't read many "child mauled to death by cat" stories. So there are reasons why the control requirements differ.


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    #66
    tomwaterford
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    But cats roam. And let's face it, you don't read many "child mauled to death by cat" stories. So there are reasons why the control requirements differ.

    Perhaps they shouldn't complain then if they roam into people's gardens and get killed by other animal's in the garden


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    #67
    Advbrd
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    But cats roam. And let's face it, you don't read many "child mauled to death by cat" stories. So there are reasons why the control requirements differ.

    Wait until they bring this lad back.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/earthnews/11457882/Wild-lynx-to-return-to-Britain-after-1300-years.html


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    #68
    petrolcan
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Has anyone tried to turn the cat into a child yet for the old Emotive angle ?

    It's a well known fact that a dog that is cruel to cats can go on and be cruel to others.

    Should be locked up and the key thrown away!!!

    <insert smiley here>


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    #69
    Zayn Happy Snowball
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    Of course the dog shouldn't be put down. Good points made about how much the cat must have killed on its wanderings.
    Careful the neighbour doesn't start throwing dodgy meat over to the dog next if they're that upset


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    #70
    TPD
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    Another vote for the dog doing no wrong. Should maybe set up a camera covering the back garden / fences in case the neighbour does try anything.


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    #71
    Mickeroo
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    If you let your cat roam then you have to be willing to accept there's a chance they might not come back at some point. I understand why the cat owner is upset, I'd be upset myself in that situation, but really it's not logical to try and blame the dog or its owners.


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    #72
    DrPhilG
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    if they're doolally enough to think your dog should be put down for this, they may be doolally enough to try and poison your dog if they don't get their way.

    This would be my worry. When I lived in a busy estate I was always very careful not to have any disputes even when I had grounds to complain about something, because I always worried what some scummer might do when I'm not home.

    On the flip side, while I agree that the cat owner has no grounds to complain for what happened and certainly no grounds to insist on the dog being put down, I don't think it's "normal behaviour" for the dog to rip apart a cat like that. I have 2 dogs and 5 cats and I would slap the sh*t out of either dog if she showed any aggression towards the cat, or the other dogs.

    I have a Rottweiler and a Jack Russell, both dogs who most would assume to be dangerous to cats (and people) and neither one would dare to show any aggression to the cats. The Rottie treats the youngest kitten like her pup.


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    #73
    Discodog
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    In case the neighbour is in touch with the dog warden make sure that you muzzle the dog in public, just as a precaution.

    It's harder to socialise a rescue dog with cats but it's a good idea.


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    #74
    seamus
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Strange to see a dog kill a cat, it's usually the cat who would be in control 99% of time.
    Cats don't take crap from dogs. Cats take on pitbulls, bears, mountain lions and win.
    That's only the videos that make it online.

    99% of the time the cat sees the bear first or can run faster. Animals that are unfamiliar with cats will be startled and cautious around a hissing, scraping furball. And dogs that have been well socialised with cats will only want to play.

    But all other larger animals familiar with cats, won't be slow to kill one if they can catch it.


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    #75
    mojesius
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    I have three terriers (yes, god loves a terrier) and we are surrounded by cats. The house behind us alone has 5 or 6 cats, They drive the dogs bananas running along the walltops, clawing down at them, pissing in the garden when the dogs are stuck inside.

    If the bigger terrier ever caught up with one, he could do a cat serious damage. It's his garden, not the cats. Frankly if my enemy pissed in my garden or tried to scratch my eyes out when i'm trying to enjoy a sunny day relaxing outside on my property, I'd be a bit pissed off and would take any necessary measures to halt said enemy in their tracks.

    As I type this, the dogs are busy upstairs building mini cluster bombs in the attic.


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    #76
    fryup
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    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Think of all the wild song birds that your dog has saved.

    yes, i'm sure they're singing his praises this morning


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    #77
    MeatTwoVeg
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    TBH putting aside the issue of whether the cat should have been in your garden, your dog sounds worryingly aggressive. Given the breed in question, it's not appropriate to have such an animal in a residential environment.


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    #78
    Fleawuss
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    State funeral for the cat. Counseling and probation for the dog. Choirs of angels provided by surviving songbirds.


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    #79
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    TBH putting aside the issue of whether the cat should have been in your garden, your dog sounds worryingly aggressive. Given the breed in question, it's not appropriate to have such an animal in a residential environment.


    Cats kill way more than dogs. Like mini tigers they are, patrolling residential areas. Maybe they're the ones not suitable to residental area living?


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    #80
    MeatTwoVeg
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    LexieOnRale wrote:
    Cats kill way more than dogs. Like mini tigers they are, patrolling residential areas. Maybe they're the ones not suitable to residental area living?


    I'd rather take my chances against a cat than an aggressive Alsatian.


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    #81
    muddypaws
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    But cats roam. And let's face it, you don't read many "child mauled to death by cat" stories. So there are reasons why the control requirements differ.

    And you've never read a story about that happening in Ireland involving a dog either.


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    #82
    Pkiernan
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    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    TBH putting aside the issue of whether the cat should have been in your garden, your dog sounds worryingly aggressive. Given the breed in question, it's not appropriate to have such an animal in a residential environment.

    Do you live in Opposite Land? Dogs kill cats.
    Wolves kill deer. Cats kill mice.


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    #83
    [Deleted User]
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    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    TBH putting aside the issue of whether the cat should have been in your garden, your dog sounds worryingly aggressive. Given the breed in question, it's not appropriate to have such an animal in a residential environment.

    Was kinda wrestling with this idea too.

    I mean like, if a dog mauls another reasonably large animal to death, while it might not be the dog's fault, it's not of no concern whatsoever either. And it might be at least suggested that the dog needs to be removed from an environment. What if a kid tries to get his ball back...


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    #84
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    muddypaws wrote: »
    And you've never read a story about that happening in Ireland involving a dog either.

    Ah.

    The only bad dogs is forrinn dogs...:D


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    #85
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Was kinda wrestling with this idea too.

    I mean like, if a dog mauls another reasonably large animal to death, while it might not be the dog's fault, it's not of no concern whatsoever either. And it might be at least suggested that the dog needs to be removed from an environment. What if a kid tries to get his ball back...

    What if my granny had wheels? She'd be a bike.

    What if the child kicks a ball into a field with a bull in it?
    What if the child falls over the wall and breaks his neck?
    You can't live your life on the what ifs of the safety of an imaginary child having the right to tresspass onto another's property.


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    #86
    MeatTwoVeg
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    Deleted User wrote:
    What if a kid tries to get his ball back...


    Presumably it'll be the kid's fault for going into the back garden.


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    #87
    MeatTwoVeg
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    LexieOnRale wrote:
    child having the right to tresspass onto another's property.


    Yep, victim blaming.


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    #88
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    Yep, victim blaming.

    Who's the victim? You don't scale a wall and hop into someone else's back garden.


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    #89
    Allinall
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    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    Yep, victim blaming.

    Of course you blame the victim.

    It would have been their fault.


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    #90
    fryup
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    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    Who's the victim? You don't scale a wall and hop into someone else's back garden.

    cats do that from time to time


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    #91
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    fryup wrote: »
    cats do that from time to time
    Now we're talking about imaginary children


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