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Dublin Marathon 2016 - Mentored Novices Thread
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This could be a trap asking questions just after ten looks suspicious.
However I'll be going back to the shorter stuff after Sunday . I did myles graduate plan last year and really enjoyed it so that's a possibility . It'll be parkrus and 10k mostly and I'll probably have to revisit Frank Duffy for myself next summer . That could all change after Sunday .
I'M Off to sleep now
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Well since The Muppet already took the bait!!! I signed up months ago for the Run in The Dark on Nov 16th :S Might be a bit soon after DCM to race - but I can choose between doing 5k and 10k on the night so I'll see how recovery goes.
After that I'm waiting for the Raheny 5m at the end of January, I want to spend a few months enjoying running just for the fun of it
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Post DCM :eek: as far as running goes, like kin9pin I have an entry for the Clontarf HM, but I'm ready to let that one slide if my race and/or recovery isn't to my satisfaction.
+1 on Jingle Bells, my first 5k race back in 2012, which I'll run again this year if college commitments allow; also the Raheny 5 will hopefully provide a long overdue 5 mile PB at the end of January.
Other than that, I plan to get back into actually running parkruns, as opposed to just jogging around them at the end of LSRs. For a while last year I had the full set of Dublin parkruns. I need three (Donabate, Father Collins and River Valley) to fill it up again. Plenty of XC races too, both BHAA and with the club, to keep me occupied through the winter.
More marathons....hopefully?!! I loved the Connemara HM this year, and hope to run the full at some stage, but it falls in the middle of my exams. We considered Barcelona, but not next year. I'll try another half in February or March; Carlingford is one that I like around that time. So maybe DCM 2017 will be the next full attempt....we shall see 0 -
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WW - That's impressive on running the full set of Dublin ParkRuns. Really cool. It would be good to hear your thoughts sometime on your favourite, hardest, hilliest, most scenic etc.Wubble Wubble wrote: »Post DCM :eek: as far as running goes, like kin9pin I have an entry for the Clontarf HM, but I'm ready to let that one slide if my race and/or recovery isn't to my satisfaction.
+1 on Jingle Bells, my first 5k race back in 2012, which I'll run again this year if college commitments allow; also the Raheny 5 will hopefully provide a long overdue 5 mile PB at the end of January.
Other than that, I plan to get back into actually running parkruns, as opposed to just jogging around them at the end of LSRs. For a while last year I had the full set of Dublin parkruns. I need three (Donabate, Father Collins and River Valley) to fill it up again. Plenty of XC races too, both BHAA and with the club, to keep me occupied through the winter.
More marathons....hopefully?!! I loved the Connemara HM this year, and hope to run the full at some stage, but it falls in the middle of my exams. We considered Barcelona, but not next year. I'll try another half in February or March; Carlingford is one that I like around that time. So maybe DCM 2017 will be the next full attempt....we shall see0 -
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paddydriver wrote: »IM Dublin next August.. as soon as it opens
Away to hotel next week for food and beers..
Recovery run next Monday.. but lets get Sunday done first..:pac:
In the lottery for Berlin 2017
Gotta have targets or I will stagnate.
I'm thinking of IM Dublin too - not sure if the timing of it will suit my other plans but hopefully it will work out.. if not, maybe one of the UK IM's. Cant swim too well and i've never cycled a road bike.. but sure, I'd never ran up until 14 months ago so - whatever!0 -
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2 miles this evening, only 2 miles left to run on Saturday....I too had to slow down my run this evening which did feel great. Physio appointment after the run and she said all seemed ok so hopefully it's just get through the next few days and get to Sunday feeling like I can run a marathon
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Post DCM Goals
November is going to be all about short, slow recovery runs; improving my swimming and getting into the gym to work on stuff that I have neglected.
December would like to race Jingle Bells, keep up with gym / swimming and attempt a 30 day running streak
January - I am away for the entire month, the runners will be with me but not sure how much running I'll really get done
2017 - concentrate on shorter distances, I won't have time to train for another marathon so focus on 5k, 5 mile and 10 k times - maybe do the DHM. AND attempt a set of Dublin park runs 0 -
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The Muppet wrote: »This taper madness is something else . Yesterday I was really calm and positive about Sunday . This morning I'm doubting that I will be able to do it.
^^^THIS^^^ Just in from 4.5 miles run at a slower pace than i'm used to and I was shattered. My plan is to go with the 5hr pacer on Sunday so please tell me it'll be ok on the day
I was a glass case of emotion last week...full of self doubt but hubby talked me around. Been feeling numb this week with a few flutters every now and then. Now's it's 3 sleeps :eek::eek:
Glad to read some of ye mention HM's. I had it typed last night then deleted it in case ye thought I was crazy!!!!. There's one in Waterford on 3rd Dec that I'm hoping to run with the hubby who was bitten by the running bug recently too and is hoping to run this as his first one. I haven't booked it yet just in case but that's my thinking anyways. Then nothing except keeping fitness up thru December and January0 -
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Hi Everyone
Just popping in to wish you all the very very best for Sunday. I’ve been dipping in and out of this thread since it started, and it’s been great to see the commitment you’ve all shown to the training. That’s to be commended in a big way, so all take a bow. Whatever happens after this, you’ve got to be very proud of yourselves for getting this far.
A few little tips from me below which you can take or leave!
Try and focus on getting plenty of rest and sleep and eating really well over the next few days (don’t overdo the carbs please, you’ll just feel bloated! Same goes for the water! Don’t overdo it !!! and don't drink too much the morning of the race - a few small sips is enough). You might find yourself getting quite nervous and some will find sleep a challenge, but don’t worry if you’re not getting 8 solid hours a night. As someone said up-thread, your body will be resting and still gaining most of the benefits of a night in the sack, even if you are not sleeping soundly throughout. As I’ve learned from racing very long distances recently, our bodies are much tougher than we give them credit for, and are really good at coping with whatever we throw at them, so don’t stress if every little thing isn’t perfect in the lead up, or if you have a bit of a cold, bug, etc. A lot of it might be in your head, but even the stuff that is real, won’t bother you much on the day more than likely.
If anyone is caught between going for a faster and slower time on the day, do yourselves a favour and go with the more conservative time and avoid stressing yourselves. Make the decision now and stick with it. The less you have to stress about between now and Sunday the better.
No heroics from anyone until after 20 miles. As you’ve been advised already, it’s a race of 2 halves – the first 20 and the last 6.2. It really should feel quite easy and you should be in fairly good condition up until 18- 20 miles if you’ve paced it correctly. If anyone finds that your planned pace just feels a little bit too much in the early stages, pull back and just run by feel and forget pacers, and watches etc. Relax and enjoy it.
FWIW (not preaching here, just relaying personal experience), I do almost all of my training runs with headphones, listening to music etc, but never wear them anymore in races up to 24 hours in duration, and I really don’t miss them. It was the same in my first marathon. I didn’t miss them on the day in the slightest, despite having used them in almost all of my training runs and all the long runs. When things get tough (which they do for most first time marathoners), they will likely be more of a hindrance than a help. Every little thing will start to annoy you when you’re struggling to put one foot in front of the other and even having to carry the blasted things will likely get on your nerves, so seriously consider leaving them at home.
If you’re running with someone, or get chatting to people in the early stages, don’t expend too much energy in conversations. You’ll need every ounce of energy for the later stages in the race, so if you’re running with a buddy, make a pact early on that you’ll only speak if it’s something important, and if some friendly folks you don’t know insist on chatting to you, don’t worry about being rude and not responding. You have to give yourselves every chance, and talking takes energy, and puts your breathing rhythm out of sync etc.
When things get tough, think of a mantra to keep you going. A little saying I used to use (and still do) is ‘I am healthy, I am strong, I can do this all day long’. Something positive and with a nice rhythm. If things get very painful, a good mental strategy is to repeatedly count backwards from 20 (from 100 might be too challenging:)!). It takes your mind off the pain and gives you something to focus on.
HAVE A BLAST! That feeling at the startline is just indescribably awesome! Remind yourself when you're standing there ready for the off, that you're trained better than most of the people around you doing their first, because of this wonderful thread. Smile, take deep breaths, and have confidence in yourselves. You deserve to!
Nop, your mentoring has been an absolute credit to you and I hope you got as much out of it as I did in 2014. You’ve played a blinder, sir! Take a BIG bow 0 -
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kittyclaws wrote: »I think I'll bring 5 and aim for one every 5 miles.
I've drank lucozade all tru training and luckily no adverse effects when combined with the gels - quite the opposite, I felt like Poppeye eating spinach when I had a bottle at mile 18 on my last LSR
Thanks for the advice all xx
If its worked for you so be it, but I think the theory is you should only combine gels with water as gels and sports drinks contain the same type of energy and if you take them both you overload your stomach?0 -
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