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Plastic bag Levy

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    I suppose if the fast food take-aways are never challenged as to what packaging they use I suppose nothing will change and just stay the same - but if the government ban that kind of packaging the FF companies will have to put their thinking hats on and come up with a suitable alternative


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    before the bag tax came into force, plastic carrier bags flew along the street and got caught up in trees and gutters ...... doesnt that say more about the filthy buggers (humans) that litter the streets and dont give a flying fig about others and the environment then anything else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    I don't take the clear plastic bags with loose fruit and veg and I avoid excess packaging when I can . I've heard of collecting all the excessive plastic wrappers and posting it back to the HQ of their supermarket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,287 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I suppose if the fast food take-aways are never challenged as to what packaging they use I suppose nothing will change and just stay the same - but if the government ban that kind of packaging the FF companies will have to put their thinking hats on and come up with a suitable alternative

    McDonald's burgers used come in box's similar to this and they used be wrapped in a wrapper inside in them. Now they just come in a cardboard box which you can recycle!

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e5/3a/70/e53a70bb13448a8f9652aa77e3b07591.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    McDonald's burgers used come in box's similar to this and they used be wrapped in a wrapper inside in them. Now they just come in a cardboard box which you can recycle!

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e5/3a/70/e53a70bb13448a8f9652aa77e3b07591.jpg

    ah yeah I think I can remember when they used to come in those yellow polystyrene dishes/boxes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    the new packaging in cardboard might be more environmentally friendly, but id be lying if i said the food tastes the same in cardboard rather than their previous plastic counterparts, i think the cardboard taints the taste a bit if i'm honest and if the tomato ketchup seeps into cardboard whereas with the plastic containers you dont get that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Tipperary Fairy


    before the bag tax came into force, plastic carrier bags flew along the street and got caught up in trees and gutters ...... doesnt that say more about the filthy buggers (humans) that litter the streets and dont give a flying fig about others and the environment then anything else?

    It's not suddenly not a problem for the environment just because Ireland has a plastic bag levy, you know?

    Did you read the link I posted earlier? People are ingesting plastic because of our own ignorance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Cloth bags. Wash and reuse, no tearing or breaking. Holds more and are easier to use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭jimmy blevins


    There should be charges on all packaging it is the only way to eliminate illegal dumping and encourage recycling without government coercion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭red sean


    the new packaging in cardboard might be more environmentally friendly, but id be lying if i said the excuse for food tastes the same in cardboard rather than their previous plastic counterparts, i think the cardboard taints the taste a bit if i'm honest and if the tomato ketchup seeps into cardboard whereas with the plastic containers you dont get that.
    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    red sean wrote: »
    FYP

    many thanks :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    The quality of Tesco bags has dropped drastically recently. Back when they were about 35 cent they lasted for ages. Now they're 70 cent and if you put two bottles of Coke in them the handles break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭conorhal


    I don't mind paying for a plastic bag on occasion, it was a sound environmental decision when the legislation was passed and has succeeded in removing a lot of waste from the environment.

    what I DO fvckin' mind Tesco, is being handed a plastic bag, that has gotten so successively thinner and thinner over the years, that it's now about four atoms thick and designed for only enough structural integrity to make it about twenty feet from the till, before tearing like a damp tissue and scattering your shopping across the carpark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    heard today (just to add insult to it all) that when people pay the 5p Carrier bag charge in the UK the money goes to good causes - wheres it go in Ireland? , its a bloody nother Tax isnt it and goes to the government!! - makes me want to hit my laptop so it does! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Maybe if there's enough protests and marches the people on the dole might be exempt from paying bag charges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    heard today (just to add insult to it all) that when people pay the 5p Carrier bag charge in the UK the money goes to good causes - wheres it go in Ireland? , its a bloody nother Tax isnt it and goes to the government!! - makes me want to hit my laptop so it does! :mad:

    Better than constantly seeing the place littered with plastic bags, the bag levy was a good idea, you get a good quality bag that lasts a long time for a few cent and just have it in the car when going shopping.

    It was the same here when it came in with all the moaning, you'd swear the sky was going to fall in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Maybe if there's enough protests and marches the people on the dole might be exempt from paying bag charges.

    Don't be giving Paul Murphy and his ilk ideas.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    heard today (just to add insult to it all) that when people pay the 5p Carrier bag charge in the UK the money goes to good causes - wheres it go in Ireland? , its a bloody nother Tax isnt it and goes to the government!! - makes me want to hit my laptop so it does! :mad:

    In the UK retailers can choose where the money goes. They're meant to donate it to good causes but not forced to. The big ones obviously comply for fear of a PR disaster but I'm sure there are plenty of small ones who don't.

    I'd rather our system tbh. I'm not a huge fan of stealth taxes but it's not as if the money wouldn't be raised another way if that charge wasn't in place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    heard today (just to add insult to it all) that when people pay the 5p Carrier bag charge in the UK the money goes to good causes - wheres it go in Ireland? , its a bloody nother Tax isnt it and goes to the government!! - makes me want to hit my laptop so it does! :mad:

    All levies are remitted into the Environment Fund.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Wales didn't introduce a plastic bag levy, it was a bag levy, you have to pay it on paper as well as plastic bags, which seems to defeat the purpose to me. McDonalds was mentioned in this thread, you have to pay the 5p for the paper bag there if you get a take away. If you get fries, the small bag for them is part of the necessary packing, but if you then put it in the bigger bag with your burger, you have to pay for that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    we have loads of thin plastic carrier bags around the house ... whether we remember to take them out with us when we go shopping is another kettle of fish! - so then we end up buying more. I know the logic is to fold them up and put them in pockets or have them in boot of car but it rarely works out like that.

    Some of them can get really filthy using them over and over again especially the 'bag for life' ones - I wonder if you got a Petra dish and a swab and took it into a lab how many germs and other nastys would show up - quite a lot i reckon - uuurgh! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,102 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    Some of them can get really filthy using them over and over again especially the 'bag for life' ones - I wonder if you got a Petra dish and a swab and took it into a lab how many germs and other nastys would show up - quite a lot i reckon - uuurgh! :eek:

    I put mine in the washing machine. Granted its not one of the plastic bags for life that lasts 2 trips to the shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,887 ✭✭✭Allinall


    we have loads of thin plastic carrier bags around the house ... whether we remember to take them out with us when we go shopping is another kettle of fish! - so then we end up buying more. I know the logic is to fold them up and put them in pockets or have them in boot of car but it rarely works out like that.

    Some of them can get really filthy using them over and over again especially the 'bag for life' ones - I wonder if you got a Petra dish and a swab and took it into a lab how many germs and other nastys would show up - quite a lot i reckon - uuurgh! :eek:

    If they're the cloth ones just stick them in the wash.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    The plastic bag levy was a good idea but we've completely offset the benefits with all the plastic bottles we use and dispose everyday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Allinall wrote: »
    If they're the cloth ones just stick them in the wash.

    any temp under 60c the germs and bacteria still live, fornicate and multiply :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Archeron wrote: »
    The problem with those is that when you get home, there will be a French stick and a green bushy thing (possibly brocolli) poking out the top, even if you didn't buy them.


    :D:D:D lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    The plastic bag levy was a good idea but we've completely offset the benefits with all the plastic bottles we use and dispose everyday.

    I dunno what this is about still not seeing plastic bags flying around, course there is, and loads of other plastic take-away products and supermarket plastic packaging - mind u anyone who thinks paying 22c for plastic bags is goinfg to eradicate plastic bags totally from the streets would have to have their heads tested. - would have been better to not have them available at all and eradicated totally at the till. The consumer shouldnt even be able to have the chance of purchasing a thin carrier bag and anyone found with a carrier bag on them should face the same penalties of law as if caught with illegal substance on their persons ;)

    - no, but seriously if the thin carriers were eradicated altogether after the bag levy 2002 then customers would have no alternative than to use cardbord boxes and bags for life because they wouldnt even be able to purchase thin plastic carrier bags .... (unless they purchased on black market)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Archeron wrote: »
    The problem with those is that when you get home, there will be a French stick and a green bushy thing (possibly brocolli) poking out the top, even if you didn't buy them.

    picked up someone else's shopping maybe? :)


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