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Logan **Spoilers from post 212**

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  • #32
    Bacchus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    The scars he's covered in had me wondering the same.

    I checked out the wiki page for the movie and it sets the context...
    X-Men wiped out by bad guy. Logan's powers are simply fading and Prof X has alzheimers. Pretty bleak (and great) setup


  • #33
    blue note
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭blue note


    Penn wrote: »
    Well, yeah, the whole point of this film is that he's now older and he's aging more. This film is set a number of years after the previous films.

    My apologies! Probably should have like d at the trailer first. He could be perfect for it so!


  • #34
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Bacchus wrote: »
    I checked out the wiki page for the movie and it sets the context...
    X-Men wiped out by bad guy. Logan's powers are simply fading and Prof X has alzheimers. Pretty bleak (and great) setup

    Yup, that sounds about as miserable as the trailer looked; don't get me wrong it all sounds fascinating but methinks this'll be a grim adventure.


  • #35
    Slydice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    RED BAND TRAILER :eek:

    Not safe for work/kids etc..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1aSAQ1CibQ


  • #36
    Nervous Wreck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    So far, I think this looks great. Jackman has always been the most consistent part of the X-Movies and while the first Wolverine movie was rough, I really liked the second one (a disappointing end notwithstanding). I'm glad that, while they're taking the vague concept of Old Man Logan, they don't seem to be attempting the story itself.
    pixelburp wrote: »
    Looks good, if a little downbeat; not sure how I feel about
    a destitute & ageing Professor X & what seems like his dying (putting 2 and 2 together based on what appears like Logan burying somebody)
    .

    The Fox X-Men universe's timeline is so broken I'm not even going to try and speculate how this will all fit into things. To the point where maybe the safest approach is to assume every X-Men film is set within its own universe.

    I agree with the timeline point; I think Fox really needs to just start again. They could use Deadpool as a jumping off point.
    Rory28 wrote: »
    That fits.

    This being Hugh Jackmans last wolverine film do you think we could get a more true to the comics wolverine next time?
    I want a 5foot 5inch wolverine. sick of him being a giant.

    I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about Logan's height in the movies. It's not an integral part of his character in the comics. Yes, he's short in the comics, sure but that's really quite incidental...


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  • #37
    Nervous Wreck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Yup, that sounds about as miserable as the trailer looked; don't get me wrong it all sounds fascinating but methinks this'll be a grim adventure.

    X-Men adventures usually are pretty grim so that fits!


  • #38
    Rory28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rory28


    Nervous Wreck wrote: »
    I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about Logan's height in the movies. It's not an integral part of his character in the comics. Yes, he's short in the comics, sure but that's really quite incidental...

    Its not that I didn't like him in the movies but when I was growing up him being small but near unstoppable was big factor in me liking him. Maybe its because I was short until I got a late growth or whatever but a small wolverine would be great imho.


  • #39
    Nervous Wreck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Rory28 wrote: »
    Its not that I didn't like him in the movies but when I was growing up him being small but near unstoppable was big factor in me liking him. Maybe its because I was short until I got a late growth or whatever but a small wolverine would be great imho.

    That's fair!


  • #40
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    I am really looking forward to this.

    Hope its a serious movie (no Deadpool or gimmicky sh*t), that gives Jackman's Wolverine & Prof X a fitting sendoff.


  • #41
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,828 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Great choice of music for that. Just doesnt look like an X-Men movie at all.

    I can't wait for it.


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  • #42
    ScrubsfanChris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Great choice of music for that. Just doesnt look like an X-Men movie at all.

    I can't wait for it.
    Rick and Morty did it first :pac:

    Looks really good. A far cry from the first x-men installment.


  • #43
    Slydice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Ya know.. watching the trailer I was thinking Hugh Jackman has got a very similar look to one Mel Gibson had recently...
    Gibson:
    399677.jpg
    Jackman:
    399678.jpg


  • #44
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Drumpot wrote: »
    I am really looking forward to this.

    Hope its a serious movie (no Deadpool or gimmicky sh*t), that gives Jackman's Wolverine & Prof X a fitting sendoff.

    I want a Deadpool cameo but going by the trailer it does look more dark and serious


  • #45
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Nervous Wreck wrote: »
    X-Men adventures usually are pretty grim so that fits!

    Yeah, but I realise I grew up with Patrick Stewart as Professor X, Picard to a lesser extent, and watching him play an obviously frail, beaten and ailing version of Xavier is breaking my heart just thinking about it!


  • #46
    Tefral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭Tefral


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Looks good, if a little downbeat; not sure how I feel about
    a destitute & ageing Professor X & what seems like his dying (putting 2 and 2 together based on what appears like Logan burying somebody)
    .

    The Fox X-Men universe's timeline is so broken I'm not even going to try and speculate how this will all fit into things. To the point where maybe the safest approach is to assume every X-Men film is set within its own universe.

    Director James Mangold dropped a few hints as to how the film fits.

    Talking to Empire, Mangold stated that, “We are in the future, we have passed the point of the epilogue of Days Of Future Past," and while that may seem obvious, since Logan is set in 2024, it does answer at least one big question that loomed over the film.


    At the risk of getting too nerdy: The Wolverine ended with a mid-credits scene that connected that film to The Last Stand (the mysterious resurrection of Prof. X), while also setting up the events of Days of Future Past. Yet, with DoFP having eliminated the Sentinel-controlled future, leaving Wolverine of the 70s on the path to a new fate, we know (in part from X-Men: Apocalypse) that the events of XO:W no longer exist, and the events of The Wolverine can no longer be same, either.

    The question about Logan was whether or not the film was a direct continuation of The Wolverine or would it pick up with the new OT timeline we left an older Logan in at the end of DoFP? Now Mangold has confirmed that its indeed the latter case.


  • #47
    razorblunt
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    Gintonious wrote: »
    Great choice of music for that. Just doesnt look like an X-Men movie at all.

    I can't wait for it.

    First X-Men movie I've been looking forward to for a while.


  • #48
    Joeface
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭Joeface


    That's the only trailer they should release .


  • #49
    flangemeistro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭flangemeistro


    When it shows the girl at the end with the sunglasses on all I could think of was XI from stranger things.
    Looks seriously good.


  • #50
    Sad Professor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,713 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    A superhero movie in which the superhero doesn't save the world? What sacrilege is this?


  • #51
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It even looks like the big climax won't involve a menacing, glowing beam shooting into the sky.


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  • #52
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Ah,


    Old Man Logan, can't remember his past. alzheimer's can be terrible.


  • #53
    Effects
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    Rory28 wrote: »
    The size of that kids fingers on the poster. They wrap around Logans hand with room to spare.

    I'd say it was just 'cheated' for the ad.


  • #54
    Nervous Wreck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    A superhero movie in which the superhero doesn't save the world? What sacrilege is this?

    In fairness, the majority of superhero films aren't on a world-ending level.


  • #55
    Sad Professor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,713 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Nervous Wreck wrote: »
    In fairness, the majority of superhero films aren't on a world-ending level.

    No, but most recent ones involve at least New York or some city needing to be saved, or defeating some invincible villain who will almost certainly destroy something big if not stopped. Wolverine tussling with a bunch of Blackwater-looking dudes with guns in the desert seems like the kind of thing Feige would relegate to an episode of Agents of SHIELD.


  • #56
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,382 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    How many X-Men time-lines are there now in the movie universe? It seems to jump all over the place.


  • #57
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    A superhero movie in which the superhero doesn't save the world? What sacrilege is this?

    did Deadpool save the world?


  • #58
    Nervous Wreck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    No, but most recent ones involve at least New York or some city needing to be saved, or defeating some invincible villain who will almost certainly destroy something big if not stopped. Wolverine tussling with a bunch of Blackwater-looking dudes with guns in the desert seems like the kind of thing Feige would relegate to an episode of Agents of SHIELD.

    Again, mostly true but still plenty of examples in the MCU and beyond of the opposite!


  • #59
    OwaynOTT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Nervous Wreck wrote: »
    So far, I think this looks great. Jackman has always been the most consistent part of the X-Movies and while the first Wolverine movie was rough, I really liked the second one (a disappointing end notwithstanding). I'm glad that, while they're taking the vague concept of Old Man Logan, they don't seem to be attempting the story itself.



    I agree with the timeline point; I think Fox really needs to just start again. They could use Deadpool as a jumping off point.



    I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about Logan's height in the movies. It's not an integral part of his character in the comics. Yes, he's short in the comics, sure but that's really quite incidental...

    He's like a reverse Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher. Let's swap 'em.


  • #60
    FortuneChip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Alright, trying to make sense of the timelines (silly, I know!)

    Wolverine gets two endings in DOFP, one where he meets Xavier in the school, and one which results in him being locked into the Weapon X program in Apocalypse.
    So would this be the point we're officially done with the original trilogy (as a timeline) and we're left with two alternate timelines - Apocalypse and this (some time after where the original trilogy MIGHT have been).
    If so, it's not THAT much of a mess. There's still a couple of gaps - did "Logan" still go through Weapon X as per X-2s backstory?
    What happens to Wolverine after breaking out of the plant in Apocalypse...

    No, it's a mess.


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  • #61
    Bacchus
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    FortuneChip wrote: »
    Alright, trying to make sense of the timelines (silly, I know!)

    Wolverine gets two endings in DOFP, one where he meets Xavier in the school, and one which results in him being locked into the Weapon X program in Apocalypse.
    So would this be the point we're officially done with the original trilogy (as a timeline) and we're left with two alternate timelines - Apocalypse and this (some time after where the original trilogy MIGHT have been).
    If so, it's not THAT much of a mess. There's still a couple of gaps - did "Logan" still go through Weapon X as per X-2s backstory?
    What happens to Wolverine after breaking out of the plant in Apocalypse...

    No, it's a mess.

    It's not as complicated as might think. DOFP is where we get the new timeline which starts in the 70s, leads to Apocalypse and ultimately to Prof X with the school running smoothly as we see at the end of DOFP. At this point, Wolverine's prime timeline consciousness returns (because... comics) and life goes on. Logan is still part of this same timeline, just set about 8 years in the future after some event has happened that wiped out the X-Men.

    As for the Wolverine's history, it's safe to say The Wolverine was a prime timeline story. I would also say XO:W was a prime timeline story but that movie is generally a mess as far as the timeline is concerned. We can only assume (and it's pretty much confirmed in Apocalypse) that Wolverine went through similar Weapon X experimentation in the new timeline. We just don't see it.


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