What is going on in our schools?

endacl · 18-10-2016 07:40PM

BabyE wrote: »

We do need to keep our heritage in the wake of an increasingly global world. The richness of our worldwide future culture depends on it.

Yeah? So what are you doing to keep your heritage in the wake of an increasingly global world? Slagging Irish people for being ugly, and fecking off to live in Spain, if memory serves...

SuperGrover · 18-10-2016 07:41PM

Wilberto wrote: »

Yes, because that's entirely the fault of the language. No blame can be placed on the instigator at all. :rolleyes:

That could be down to the fact that corporal punishment was banned in 1982 however, and made a criminal offence in 1996, but go on, continue to infer that your "miserable schooling" experience is due to learning a language. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You can roll your eyes all you want but there was more to that post than the language issue. I was addressing the 'cultural heritage' part. Didn't you read the parts about all the foreigners and how it's worse in the big towns etc?

The OP clearly laments the passing of the old ways. I say good riddance.

Tornaxx · 18-10-2016 07:43PM

katemarch wrote: »

We've absorbed Norman children, before that Viking children, more recently Huguenot children, English and Scots --

"We absorbed them" is different from "They invaded and relegated the native people and language to a place of lesser importance."

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Junior infants in English speaking schools do not use written Irish.
I don't see how welcoming other nationalities into the country has to mean losing our "cultural heritage?"

Junior infants in English-speaking schools don't use written Polish or Swahili or Arabic or Tagalog, so why wasn't Irish represented if they were? (Quick answer: it's handier for the troll's story.

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endacl · 18-10-2016 07:43PM

Harvey Normal wrote: »

Ethnicity != culture.

Indeed. The best hurler on our school team (in the 80s) was a lad from the Phillipines.

And this fella doesn't even live here... http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/how-a-london-imam-became-a-sean-n%C3%B3s-singer-1.2140767

petrolcan · 18-10-2016 07:44PM

Oldtrope wrote: »

I live in a very rural part of Ireland as many of you know,

Just brilliant.

alroley · 18-10-2016 07:46PM

Making children who don't speak english feel welcome in their new learning environment? Shocking.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 18-10-2016 07:46PM

Great to see more diversity in our schools. It's a shame our local school hasn't more of it. As for no Gealge on the pictures, big deal. It's Junior Infants. They are time enough learning to read Irish.

Skommando · 18-10-2016 07:48PM

A post count of 1 ? you lot really are gullible troll food.

Gatling · 18-10-2016 07:49PM

Glad I have my two in a Gael scoil ,none of this cultural nonsense its all about the education ,

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 18-10-2016 07:51PM

Oldtrope wrote: »

I live in a very rural part of Ireland as many of you know, the village I live in can have no more than 500 homes in the surrounding area...

For Ireland the words were wrote in English, no Gaelige anywhere.

Nearly every mother I spoke too were foreign, .

Your first post, so how could we know where you live?

Hopefully these children will learn better English than you did.

eviltwin · 18-10-2016 07:53PM

My son's school is officially the most culturally diverse in the country. Almost all those children have been born here, all of the kids I meet have impeccable English. He has friends from eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, south America backgrounds.....I've become friends with other mums and dads from all over....it's absolutely brilliant and I see it as a wonderful asset to this generation that they are lucky to have.

darlett · 18-10-2016 07:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What's Gaelige, is it not Gaeilge?

You see! It's already starting to happen. We need some more well chosen posters up on that wall.

Harvey Normal · 18-10-2016 07:58PM

Looks like maregal cross posted to politics under her own name.

meeeeh · 18-10-2016 08:00PM

The funny thing is that in Politics Forum the same nonsense seems to be taken seriously.

Edit: A bit late.

meeeeh · 18-10-2016 08:03PM

Anyway I'll eat my umbrella if there is rural village in Ireland with majority of foreign population.

The_Valeyard · 18-10-2016 08:04PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Anyway I'll eat my umbrella if there is rural village in Ireland with majority of foreign population.

Gotta be a six counties joke in there somewhere

pickarooney · 18-10-2016 08:06PM

Oldtrope wrote: »

I live in a very rural part of Ireland as many of you know, the village I live in can have no more than 500 homes in the surrounding area.

This morning I took my Granddaughter to school, its her first year and she is junior Infants. What I witnessed was shocking and upsetting.

The classroom was nicely laid out but everywhere I looked foreign words were displayed all over the walls with pictures of flags and their name in their language. For Ireland the words were wrote in English, no Gaelige anywhere.

I enjoy talking to some of the other parents as I have done in the past when I took one of my grandsons to the school in the past, today was much different. Nearly every mother I spoke too were foreign, I encountered a lot of Eastern Europeans, a few Brazilians, and some English. If I had to put a number on it I would say the majority of the classroom had foreign children with only a small percentage of Irish children.

I waited to speak to the teacher, I wanted to know why Ireland was represented in English and not Gaelige. When she arrived she was welcoming and appeared almost happy someone had finally asked her the question. She told me that because the majority of the classroom could speak very little English they had to use their own languages to welcome them and make them feel at home, English was the 2nd language that all children must learn and so even Irish has to be represented in English. They do still teach Irish as part of the curriculum, but it is only taught at the bare minimum acceptance level as it was no use to the classroom because the majority of the children had been exempted by the school governors and the department of Education.

I asked her why were there so many non Irish children, she replied to me that if I thought this was bad then I should look at the bigger towns and Cities where the problem was far worse.

This is madness, we are losing our cultural heritage and now our children are minorities in their own schools and suffering because of it.

You can't even spell Gaeilge you thundering hypocrite.

Harvey Normal · 18-10-2016 08:07PM

pickarooney wrote: »

You can't even spell Gaeilge you thundering hypocrite.

Not much of an argument there.

Harvey Normal · 18-10-2016 08:08PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Anyway I'll eat my umbrella if there is rural village in Ireland with majority of foreign population.

There definitely a village in Galway or somewhere which was majority Brazilian.

HellSquirrel · 18-10-2016 08:09PM

Nope, having trouble finding fcuks to give.

Also having trouble finding a town that matches the description of being tiny, rural and mostly comprised of immigrants. Although a lot of people wouldn't believe that my..er.."town" (hamlet? Bit of countryside with a school, post office and church?) is comprised of native Irish speakers and the local school (which is not an official Gaelscoil) is full of kids speaking Irish just because it's most familiar to them, either.

Arcade_Tryer · 18-10-2016 08:10PM

Oldtrope wrote: »

This is madness, we are losing our cultural heritage and now our children are minorities in their own schools and suffering because of it.

Yours maybe, not mine. Nor my family. Nor my friends.

And we all live in a rural area of Ireland too.

A lot of the "cultural heritage" of Ireland has failed to remain relevant in its own right, or on its own merit, despite millions being spent trying to promote, nay, save it. So much money that could be spent on current, modern culture and the arts. But instead we squander it out of some kind of misguided mixture of nationalistic pity and pride. And because of the Brits of course. /The bastards ra ra ra/ - If that is your idea of Irish culture, well then the culture is dead. And it definitely is dead.

Armchair Andy · 18-10-2016 08:10PM

Schoolyards slowly going the way of Hamsterdam is what I hear.

HellSquirrel · 18-10-2016 08:11PM

Schoolyards slowly going the way of Hamsterdam is what I hear.

??? Full of small rodents? Full of weed?

I suppose I can believe that.

Harvey Normal · 18-10-2016 08:12PM

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Yours maybe, not mine. Nor my family. Nor my friends.

And we all live in a rural area of Ireland too.

A lot of the "cultural heritage" of Ireland has failed to remain relevant in its own right, or on its own merit, despite millions being spent trying to promote, nay, save it. So much money that could be spent on current, modern culture and the arts. But instead we squander it out of some kind of misguided mixture of nationalistic pity and pride. And because of the Brits the bastards of course. If that is your idea of Irish culture, the culture is dead. And it definitely is dead.

Sure. Replaced by American ideologies on multiculturalism and British prole culture. A culture midway between Nashville, San Jose, and old Trafford. Not worth saving.

Pity because who knows what a Gaelic culture would have produced if we had reached 40M people.

Armchair Andy · 18-10-2016 08:14PM

HellSquirrel wrote:

??? Full of small rodents? Full of weed?

HellSquirrel wrote:

I suppose I can believe that.

Dope fiends everywhere. Omar be callin real soon yo.

Harvey Normal · 18-10-2016 08:15PM

Gort Co Galway.

40% Brazilian at one stage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gort

HellSquirrel · 18-10-2016 08:15PM

Dope fiends everywhere. Omar be callin real soon yo.

Doubt it, still waiting on Godot.

18-10-2016 08:19PM

Oldtrope wrote:

For Ireland the words were wrote in English, no Gaelige anywhere.

*written

Perhaps you should brush up on the ol' English instead of trolling

meeeeh · 18-10-2016 08:26PM

Harvey Normal wrote: »

Gort Co Galway.

40% Brazilian at one stage.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gort

But Gort is not exactly village with 500 people. I live in one as described by op. My partner's parents were from another county and he was born there yet he is still considered blow in.

There is no room for Brazilians in local need plans.

Hammer89 · 18-10-2016 08:34PM

I'd prefer to know what is going on in our chippers.

I live beside one as many of you know and what I saw recently was upsetting. It was deeply upsetting actually. Actually it was deeply upsetting and deeply shocking.

I go into my local chipper and all of a sudden I see dozens of Italian flags, not Irish ones, all over the whoring place. I could understand if the Italy national team was playing in one of those rugby or soccer ball games, but they weren't.

I asked Luigi why Italy was so well represented in this Irish chipper and not Ireland. He was honestly delighted someone asked this question and he said something else which was deeply shocking and deeply upsetting. He said: 'Who cares you big racist?'. I was deeply shocked and deeply upset.

I have no problem leaving a place of business if I'm unsatisfied as many of you know so I just left.

What is going on in our schools?

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