RTE, why would anyone pay for this?

Dyr · 17-10-2016 10:35AM

mariaalice wrote: »

Saved by radio( RTE 1 is a very good station) and the news plus some of the current affairs, nationwide is not bad, nor is the late late, there are also a few quirky gems other that that it can be dire.

I was watching nationwide there a while ago and actually enjoyed it

, it's like entertainment horlicks.

Nekarsulm · 17-10-2016 10:35AM

Prime Time looks a good show, and sometimes it may be, but on the few occasions when they put on a show about a subject I have some actual knowledge about, they are a total joke. A left-leaning "shock horror" type of tabloid show with a presenter led agenda.
And don't bother complaining, you will get nowhere. Complaints to the BAI received an almost carbon copy of the RTE response.
Over 70 complaints and in every case, the complainants points were dismissed.
For an Organization which receives funds from almost every household in the country, along with large amounts of advertising revenue, they provide us with a very megre return.

TheRiverman · 17-10-2016 11:29AM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Prime Time looks a good show, and sometimes it may be, but on the few occasions when they put on a show about a subject I have some actual knowledge about, they are a total joke. A left-leaning "shock horror" type of tabloid show with a presenter led agenda.
And don't bother complaining, you will get nowhere. Complaints to the BAI received an almost carbon copy of the RTE response.
Over 70 complaints and in every case, the complainants points were dismissed.
For an Organization which receives funds from almost every household in the country, along with large amounts of advertising revenue, they provide us with a very megre return.

I would like to see the statistics on your point about receiving funds from almost every household in the country.I feel there are a lot of people who do not pay the licence fee.The Minister for Communications,Denis Naughten has promised to target all evaders.Let's see if he delivers.

Nekarsulm · 17-10-2016 11:54AM

TheRiverman wrote: »

I would like to see the statistics on your point about receiving funds from almost every household in the country.I feel there are a lot of people who do not pay the licence fee.The Minister for Communications,Denis Naughten has promised to target all evaders.Let's see if he delivers.

OK, I should have stated "An organization which is entitled to receive funds from almost every household in the country"
Allowing that there MAY be a percentage of households without a device capable of receiving a TV signal.

Agent Smith · 17-10-2016 12:58PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The Montrose holiday camp should be sold off completely and all the inmates moved to an industrial estate somewhere off the M50

Tv3?

TheDoc · 17-10-2016 01:02PM

TV license was perfectly acceptable back in the day, where it was a method to subsidise the technical infrastructure and deployments to ensure everoyne in the country had a medium of entertainment from TV or Radio.

But it's totally inept now, and just a cheap tax collection that goes into RTE. As mentioned already, the fact they run advertisement and get lucrative endorsement should be reason enough for the scrap. But its a cheap bit of $$$ for the government and RTE, so why get rid.

Considering the technology now and delivery platforms, there is simply no reason for it. That they have tried to introduce a license to simply "tax screens" is indicative of a government and organisation that don't know when to stop.

The Tv license needs to die a death. It's not expensive, but from all the ****e I pay in taxation or legal requirements, nothing boils my piss more then the TV license.

I would agree with others in how I don't watch RTe, or use their TERRIBLE liveplayer, or listen to radio, but that is not the point of why you pay it. The reason for it being paid was to subsidise a state broadcaster that could provide entertainment nationwide. There was a time only east coast counties could grab a bit of BBC and the likes and nothing was doing for the West and South. It was maintained when satellite arrived and the focus point was large urban cities, which was also fine.

But considering the deployment platform now, where you can get Freeview channels anywhere, and in HD with no issues, the purpose of the TV license has long since expired. Like I don't even think there is a restriction with Sky anymore in terms of where they can put a dish, where as when they first arrived they couldn't deploy nationwide. But they can now, and RTE comes as standard in those bundles, that are as cheap as €28 a month for basic packages.

Cause don't forget, while you pay a TV license that goes to RTE, when you pay your Virgin or Sky bill, a portion of that is also filtering its way to RTE. I thought "double paying" was something we were all up in arms about now?

old boy · 17-10-2016 01:06PM

is not the minister contemplating funding the printed media, or some of it anyway, will he transfer some of the telly licence loot, or will he fund it from general taxation

Winterlong · 17-10-2016 02:47PM

The problem is that there is no consensus on what is needed from a National broadcaster.
I know what I think that should be...and it would be a 1 tv channel & 1 radio channel & a web site dedicated to news, documentaries and a bit of Irish language thrown in. No superstar presenters. Fund these services from direct taxation, index linked.

Move all other programming to non-licence funded channels and if Advertising revenue cannot keep them afloat then shut them down.

dublinman1990 · 17-10-2016 11:57PM

RTE has good things from it like their sports coverage. But other than that it has a very poor choices of programmes listed in it's schedules.

RTE should stop airing Eastenders because that is already shown on BBC One on Cable & Satellite TV for years now.

The salaries of all their stars is currently an absolute disgrace. RTE also have a deficit so any money they make or receive is a miracle to them.

I couldn't even watch it today because I knew it was Monday & they show nothing that was useful for my own sanity.

Mena Mitty · 18-10-2016 08:01AM

zerks wrote: »

For a fella that retired he is busier than ever.He just can't get away from sucking on the nipples of RTE while watching his bank account get fatter.Even the look on his face these days annoys me before he even opens his mouth.

- When did it hit you

- When did what hit me

- The bug

- What bug Gay

- The acting bug.

The look of relief on the actors when Gay uttered the punchline. Those were the days my friends.

ScumLord · 18-10-2016 11:49AM

I stopped watching broadcast TV I'd say ten years ago. I got rid of my TV but I have a decent sized monitor that I'll watch the likes of netflix or youtube on.

I got rid of the TV entirely. RTE is a lame duck but I think Sky is insidious, RTE is like being stuck in a room with three 80 year olds talking nonsense constantly. Sky is like being in a small room with someone who won't stop touching you inappropriately.

The onslaught of advertising is sickening considering you're paying to watch those ads. I believe the programing is actually making people dumber, all these reality TV shows idolise the most mundane tasks so that the aspirations of thousands of people doesn't extend beyond making a mess of the kitchen.

Everyone should seriously consider getting rid of the idiot box, even just try it for a month.

riclad · 18-10-2016 12:00PM

Cable tv is not avaidable everywhere , so theres people who watch eastenders ,american cop shows on rte ,and Some people may not know if you put up a sky dish you can get bbc ,itv,c4 on freeview .some people have broadband
but not cable tv.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 18-10-2016 01:27PM

satguy wrote: »

It's just a place where a very small few, have guaranteed jobs for their sons and daughters..
Kind of a D4 social club, where the drinks are free,, But we pay in €4 every week to keep the bar open...

I have a friend who's quite senior in RTE. She can't even get her daughter a week's work experience for transition year in there. They insist that anyone who applies, whether related to someone in RTE or not, has their names drawn out at random.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 18-10-2016 01:31PM

osarusan wrote: »

They make some good stuff, but they recycle a lot of bad stuff, especially bad presenters, who just never seem to quite go away.

And when they have a good presenter, they put them everywhere, even on stuff they're not suited for at all.

The online player is like a bad joke with the amount of ads on it. It's like one of those apps that have ads every 30 seconds, that you delete after trying to use once.

I totally agree with this. Pat Kenny is the prime example. He's great on current affairs, but no use on light entertainment/chat type programmes.

AndyBoBandy · 18-10-2016 01:38PM

One of the better shoes they've made over the last few years, 'Republic of Telly' is ironically a show that rips the piss out of (among others) RTÉ shows!!

eeguy · 18-10-2016 02:15PM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

One of the better shoes they've made over the last few years, 'Republic of Telly' is ironically a show that rips the piss out of (among others) RTÉ shows!!

Let's not forget Dave McSavage, Mario Rosenstock and Oliver Callan who've also made careers doing exactly the same thing.

bodhrandude · 18-10-2016 02:25PM

eeguy wrote: »

Let's not forget Dave McSavage, Mario Rosenstock and Oliver Callan who've also made careers doing exactly the same thing.

And the original of original Colin Murphy's Blizzard of Odd that preceded Republic of Telly and was far better too.

Dyr · 18-10-2016 02:31PM

ScumLord wrote: »

The onslaught of advertising is sickening considering you're paying to watch those ads. I believe the programing is actually making people dumber, all these reality TV shows idolise the most mundane tasks so that the aspirations of thousands of people doesn't extend beyond making a mess of the kitchen.

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I didnt have a tv for about 4 years but when I moved house about 2-3 years it was actually costing me nearly as much to opt out of the tv package as it did to get the basic channels

Jesus was I in for a suprise...reality rennovation.. reality cooking...reality gardening

Triangle · 18-10-2016 02:43PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

You have to pay for talent is the reality. Prices rise steeply for the service of the very best when you reach the top of the tree in a small pool like Ireland. RTE to its credit has unearthed and developed great talent in Ireland over the years, and does seem to know what its doing on this front. We may baulk at the idea of pay some one a million, but then if you want that type of skill delivering news, entertainment, current affairs, etc to such a high standard, then you have to pay the necessary fee. They are fine value when you think about it.

That's absolute trash - they wouldn't even get a mid ranking job in the UK. RTE pays them huge salaries to justify the huge salaries of the senior management.

There are plenty of people with talent in Ireland that could easily host many shows. Perhaps if they got away from their inbred nature they might actually find people with more talents (or even ideas!) out there!

BabyE · 18-10-2016 02:45PM

newacc2015 wrote: »

The problem with RTE is that its a closed union. It uses the same people from private radio stations and the other crusties from the 1970s. I think they are afraid to put on someone who might challenge the status quo. RTE only wants a safe dry fart who they know wont say anything controversial. We have to be the funniest nation in Europe, yet there is no decent comedy on RTE. For fear of being biased, there cant be anything on RTE with the an opposing side.

I lost whatever respect I had for RTE when they told Una Mullaly that she couldnt go on air to discuss an Irish LGBT history book without an opposing side. They hadnt even called the marriage ref and RTE was already self-censoring. What ****ing **** show is RTE that they cant even allow a history book to be discussed without an opposing side? You wouldnt hear any other country where a TV station was bringing in another person for balance to oppose a factual book(well maybe some nutjobs in a glorious place like North Carolina).

How can a country be the funniest in Europe? Let me guess second funniest is the uk, SHOCK an anglophone country. You can't appreciate humour unless your totally fluent in another language.
In my experience Dutch are the funniest on a person by person basis, but their humour in English anyway is very American inspired

eeguy · 18-10-2016 02:47PM

Triangle wrote: »

That's absolute trash - they wouldn't even get a mid ranking job in the UK. RTE pays them huge salaries to justify the huge salaries of the senior management.

There are plenty of people with talent in Ireland that could easily host many shows. Perhaps if they got away from their inbred nature they might actually find people with more talents (or even ideas!) out there!

Every rising Irish talent immediately leaves for the UK as soon as they can. We're left with the remnants that couldn't make the leap.

BrokenArrows · 18-10-2016 02:49PM

TV License Fees shouldnt exist.

RTE should be made compete with the rest of the tv channels in existence.

I live in the UK and we pay the license for the BBC stuff too, but their tv channels are usually quality (excluding the soaps).

BabyE · 18-10-2016 03:08PM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

TV License Fees shouldnt exist.

RTE should be made compete with the rest of the tv channels in existence.

I live in the UK and we pay the license for the BBC stuff too, but their tv channels are usually quality (excluding the soaps).

Disagree when it comes to Tv and radio rte should exist in a bubble. Their job is to provide a platform of knowledge, leaning, politics, culture, history, if it was a free market they probably wouldn't make these type of shows and we'd be stuck with keeping up with the kardashians and other muck to shows

_Brian · 18-10-2016 03:22PM

TheRiverman wrote: »

Those licence fee ads try to portray anyone who doesn't pay it as a lowlife criminal.Pathetic.

And it's not true, I'm not like that at all.

Clarebelly · 18-10-2016 03:50PM

BabyE wrote: »

Disagree when it comes to Tv and radio rte should exist in a bubble. Their job is to provide a platform of knowledge, leaning, politics, culture, history, if it was a free market they probably wouldn't make these type of shows and we'd be stuck with keeping up with the kardashians and other muck to shows

YEAH, F that trash tv.
I much prefer "Meet the Mcdonaghs" to "Keeping up with the Kardashians"...........................................................

Winterlong · 18-10-2016 04:09PM

BabyE wrote: »

Disagree when it comes to Tv and radio rte should exist in a bubble. Their job is to provide a platform of knowledge, leaning, politics, culture, history, if it was a free market they probably wouldn't make these type of shows and we'd be stuck with keeping up with the kardashians and other muck to shows

I am ok with them existing in a bubble. But a lot smaller and cheaper bubble than they currently have carved out for themselves.

Jan_de_Bakker · 18-10-2016 04:18PM

When you think that shows like Only Fools and Horses and BBC documentaries on repeat are BETTER then the usual stuff !! anyway right now I don't know - I used to live there (7 years ago), Licence fee I think was €120 a year - is it still roughly this ?

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 18-10-2016 04:37PM

Triangle wrote: »

That's absolute trash - they wouldn't even get a mid ranking job in the UK. RTE pays them huge salaries to justify the huge salaries of the senior management.

There are plenty of people with talent in Ireland that could easily host many shows. Perhaps if they got away from their inbred nature they might actually find people with more talents (or even ideas!) out there!

I thought RTE staff, as opposed to presenters etc. were public servants. What kind of salaries do senior management get?

mzungu · 18-10-2016 06:04PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I stopped watching broadcast TV I'd say ten years ago. I got rid of my TV but I have a decent sized monitor that I'll watch the likes of netflix or youtube on.

I got rid of the TV entirely. RTE is a lame duck but I think Sky is insidious, RTE is like being stuck in a room with three 80 year olds talking nonsense constantly. Sky is like being in a small room with someone who won't stop touching you inappropriately.

The onslaught of advertising is sickening considering you're paying to watch those ads. I believe the programing is actually making people dumber, all these reality TV shows idolise the most mundane tasks so that the aspirations of thousands of people doesn't extend beyond making a mess of the kitchen.

Everyone should seriously consider getting rid of the idiot box, even just try it for a month.

I agree about ditching the TV, no use for it when you have a desktop/laptop. However, RTE come into their own with sports coverage (Olympics/World Championships) and shows like Scannal are really good. In fact, last night there was a show called Geansaí on RTE 1 at 7:30pm (about a hurler who had his career cut short) that was a good watch. They can produce the goods when they need too, and this is why RTE player is the only game in town. You can get the gems and ditch the crapola.

They (RTE) need to ditch the cooking shows, though. How much do they think we all eat?

Osgoodisgood · 18-10-2016 07:03PM

mzungu wrote: »

I agree about ditching the TV, no use for it when you have a desktop/laptop. However, RTE come into their own with sports coverage (Olympics/World Championships) and shows like Scannal are really good. In fact, last night there was a show called Geansaí on RTE 1 at 7:30pm (about a hurler who had his career cut short) that was a good watch. They can produce the goods when they need too, and this is why RTE player is the only game in town. You can get the gems and ditch the crapola.

They (RTE) need to ditch the cooking shows, though. How much do they think we all eat?

Fook me I think I missed a cracker there!

RTE, why would anyone pay for this?

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