RTE, why would anyone pay for this?

JRant · 16-10-2016 11:42PM

newacc2015 wrote: »

The problem with RTE is that its a closed union. It uses the same people from private radio stations and the other crusties from the 1970s. I think they are afraid to put on someone who might challenge the status quo. RTE only wants a safe dry fart who they know wont say anything controversial. We have to be the funniest nation in Europe, yet there is no decent comedy on RTE. For fear of being biased, there cant be anything on RTE with the an opposing side.

I lost whatever respect I had for RTE when they told Una Mullaly that she couldnt go on air to discuss an Irish LGBT history book without an opposing side. They hadnt even called the marriage ref and RTE was already self-censoring. What ****ing **** show is RTE that they cant even allow a history book to be discussed without an opposing side? You wouldnt hear any other country where a TV station was bringing in another person for balance to oppose a factual book(well maybe some nutjobs in a glorious place like North Carolina).

RTE is a steaming pile of manure and the only thing I watch on it is sport. Their radio stations are woeful as well.

With that said they were right about having an opposing view to Dullaly as she has some quite disturbing attitudes towards men, especially white straight men.

Harry Palmr · 16-10-2016 11:43PM

vicwatson wrote: »

But was Reeling in the years not a BBC rip off of sorts?

Patww79 wrote: »

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The BBC did it first - The Rock and Roll Years

The Rape of Lucretia · 16-10-2016 11:46PM

jimmy blevins wrote: »

the only problem I have with them is the ridiculous pay some of the "stars" get.

You have to pay for talent is the reality. Prices rise steeply for the service of the very best when you reach the top of the tree in a small pool like Ireland. RTE to its credit has unearthed and developed great talent in Ireland over the years, and does seem to know what its doing on this front. We may baulk at the idea of pay some one a million, but then if you want that type of skill delivering news, entertainment, current affairs, etc to such a high standard, then you have to pay the necessary fee. They are fine value when you think about it.

vicwatson · 16-10-2016 11:55PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The BBC did it first - The Rock and Roll Years

Yes, thought that

jimmy blevins · 17-10-2016 12:06AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

And wasting airtime and money buying (I presume they pay) Eastenders and other shite people can get for free from satellite. That needs to stop.

Totally agree, they could probably produce a show here cheaper than buying it. Tv3 are selling their replacement for coronation st to the bbc.

Radiosonde · 17-10-2016 12:07AM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

You have to pay for talent is the reality. Prices rise steeply for the service of the very best when you reach the top of the tree in a small pool like Ireland. RTE to its credit has unearthed and developed great talent in Ireland over the years, and does seem to know what its doing on this front. We may baulk at the idea of pay some one a million, but then if you want that type of skill delivering news, entertainment, current affairs, etc to such a high standard, then you have to pay the necessary fee. They are fine value when you think about it.

Pat Kenny was its top paid star for years, during which time he presented its flagship talk show, despite being totally unsuited to light entertainment. And radio listeners have not followed him to Newstalk.

Marion Finuacne is still highly-paid, despite barely being on air.

RTE overrates itself, and consequently overpays its "stars".

Specialun · 17-10-2016 12:48AM

Rte is pure sh!te. Tubs has the personality of a stone , how the fcuk is ray darcy still going and dont get me started on the sh!te soaps. It annoys me that anytime something is good across the pond we then try to copy it. Why cant we think of orignal shows ourselves, why is the same presenters over and over again..is katherine kenneddy an actual woman or is she a tranny..why dont they do a prime time show on that..oh i do like dobbo on the news though, dunno why, he just seems kinda i know this is bollox but im riding the wave bitches look about him

riclad · 17-10-2016 12:58AM

Rte makes drama,s ,fair city, it shows gaa ,rugby,current affairs ,
the late late show, various reality shows ,on a limited budget.
It makes good radio programs .
Most rte programs no private company would make , they have a limited
audience .Half the time on rte theres american tv comedy, drama,s ,aussie soaps,
which can be seen on other cable tv channels .
They have at least 5 digital radio channels and tg4 which have a small
audience.
I think theres alot of people who watch fair city ,the rose of tralee etc
mainly people over 30.
rte tv is a public service ,they make programs which are never gonna
get great ratings ,like prime time ,arts documentarys .
They dont need great ratings on all programs ,as they have the license fee .I think the worst programs are rte chat shows,
typical guest ,someone who was on a soap opera ten years ago.
c list celebs who,ll appear on any tv program for a bit of publicity .
RTE wages make no sense, eh marion finucane gets paid about 200k for
being on radio 4 hours per week.

IvySlayer · 17-10-2016 01:00AM

Forced to watched 2 ads before a program starts on rte player with another one 15 mins later. Ridiculous.

satguy · 17-10-2016 01:05AM

I would gladly pay my water charges ,, if they would let me off paying that bloody TV licence.
At least the water is just about palatable if you close your eyes and swallow fast,, unlike that rubbish RTE servers up...

Grayson · 17-10-2016 01:06AM

JRant wrote: »

With that said they were right about having an opposing view to Dullaly as she has some quite disturbing attitudes towards men, especially white straight men.

It was a history book. Have you read it? is there any evidence it was inaccurate at all? The fact that RTE won't go near LGBT topics unless there's someone present who can say that LGBT people shouldn't have those rights is ridiculous.

btw, I've been following her column for a while. I've never seen anything crazy, especially about straight white men. I think you're confusing her with someone else.

Cantona's Collars · 17-10-2016 01:25AM

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

How could I forget. I saw an ad the other day for that sanctimonious prick Gay Byrne who we all thought retired years ago, in a show where he talks about God (only in Ireland) with famous people. Would he ever f*ck off? He's probably on an obscene pension from RTE as is without picking up this easy earner.

For a fella that retired he is busier than ever.He just can't get away from sucking on the nipples of RTE while watching his bank account get fatter.Even the look on his face these days annoys me before he even opens his mouth.

Jimmy Garlic · 17-10-2016 01:29AM

Just dire, a cess pit, a national embarrassment. That's what happens when corrupt talentless nepotists take over, they push any real talent out, or ignore it, because they are threatened by it.... Then all the self proclaimed ''stars'' can congratulate each other, interview each other ad nauseum and blow smoke up each others arses. RTE can barely make it with the money that they extort + advertising, cut the license fee life support and it would be dead and gone within a year. It would be absolutely no loss whatsoever btw.

Tigger · 17-10-2016 01:32AM

the only thing i watch on rte is the SFC and the ^ nations and the SFC is being sold off bit by bit while the 6 nations is gone
i listen to the culture programs on RTE radio 1 but thats free

Jimmy Garlic · 17-10-2016 01:32AM

zerks wrote: »

For a fella that retired he is busier than ever.He just can't get away from sucking on the nipples of RTE while watching his bank account get fatter.Even the look on his face these days annoys me before he even opens his mouth.

A very sanctimonious man with a finger in every pudding.

mickdw · 17-10-2016 01:45AM

I don't like gaybo at all but I think it's a case of having to work to some degree.
He was self employed for years into rte and they for some reason did not want to give him a long term pensionable job. Don't get me wrong - I'm sure he was well paid. He then lost him money when his accountant took it all.
He made it all back again before retiring then lost it all again on AIB shares.
So I don't believe he has any meaningful rte pension and he may not have a mountain of cash either.

Cantona's Collars · 17-10-2016 01:49AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

A very sanctimonious man with a finger in every pudding.

Ray D'arcy is putting in serious training to be the king of sanctimonious RTE 'stars' and take Gaybo's crown when he eventually goes.

Cantona's Collars · 17-10-2016 01:53AM

mickdw wrote: »

I don't like gaybo at all but I think it's a case of having to work to some degree.
He was self employed for years into rte and they for some reason did not want to give him a long term pensionable job. Don't get me wrong - I'm sure he was well paid. He then lost him money when his accountant took it all.
He made it all back again before retiring then lost it all again on AIB shares.
So I don't believe he has any meaningful rte pension and he may not have a mountain of cash either.

He actually sounds like a developer going bust and after getting a dig out and being back in the game reading your post.:p
All they need to do now is find a role at Montrose for Twink to help her pay her mortgage arrears.

bodhrandude · 17-10-2016 01:54AM

They done some great stuff in the past, coverage of traditional Irish music, was always fond of the Come west along the road series and they used to do other programmes like the High Reel and the Pure Drop. Documentaries like Hands and follow on programmes from that. For drama its hard to beat Strumpet City, an absolute classic but I don't know if BBC was involved with that too, Pure Mule is another one to come to mind. Too much reality rubbish these days, far too much given to sports and as Builder Plumber has documented, the promotion of that boy band country music pop cr@p. We need a few alternative music programmes like Under Ether or No Disco, Other Voices is not enough we need an Irish version of the Jools Holland show.

Jimmy Garlic · 17-10-2016 02:02AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

They done some great stuff in the past, coverage of traditional Irish music, was always fond of the Come west along the road series and they used to do other programmes like the High Reel and the Pure Drop. Documentaries like Hands and follow on programmes from that. For drama its hard to beat Strumpet City, an absolute classic but I don't know if BBC was involved with that too, Pure Mule is another one to come to mind. Too much reality rubbish these days, far too much given to sports and as Builder Plumber has documented, the promotion of that boy band country music pop cr@p. We need a few alternative music programmes like Under Ether or No Disco, Other Voices is not enough we need an Irish version of the Jools Holland show.

TG4 manages to make some good stuff with a tiny fraction of the budget and staff that RTE has. Drove past their base in Connemara during the summer, it's probably smaller than the RTE canteen.

Donutz · 17-10-2016 02:10AM

You have to remember that with licence fee money they have to provide somethimg for everybody. My granny isn't gonna watch the champions league, but she quite likes prime time and nationwide. I really enjoy some of the drama they show such as can't cope wont cope.

There is never gonna be anybody who enjoys every single programme aired, but I think that there is something there for everybody and thats what the licence fee is all about. To entertain in some way the vastly diverse taste in modern Irish society. And I think they do it quite well. From the 3 year old toddler to the spotty teenager, through the twentysomethings right up to the nintysomething year olds. There is something there for everybody.

I have to agree though that some of the salarys are absolutely crazy. Tubridy is on a sickening amount for the little bit of air time that he does. I can't wait to see the uproar when they release D'arcys salary.

Mr.Micro · 17-10-2016 02:23AM

RTE a big club. There is always a little job for the boys when they need a bit more. It's a self promoting, self important, indulgent and vastly overpaid outfit. It keeps the likes of the saintly Byrne, and the obnoxious Mike Murphy, and many others on retainers. One would think there us no new talent outside D4

Jimmy Garlic · 17-10-2016 02:33AM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

RTE a big club. There is always a little job for the boys when they need a bit more. It's a self promoting, self important, indulgent and vastly overpaid outfit. It keeps the likes of the saintly Byrne, and the obnoxious Mike Murphy, and many others on retainers. One would think there us no new talent outside D4

I thought Mike Murphy was dead. Seriously, he is still on the go over there?

yermanoffthetv · 17-10-2016 08:46AM

zerks wrote: »

For a fella that retired he is busier than ever.He just can't get away from sucking on the nipples of RTE while watching his bank account get fatter.Even the look on his face these days annoys me before he even opens his mouth.

Didnt he go totally broke? I heard his savings were poorly invested and he was left with nothing and had to go back to work. Could be wrong on that but I recall hearing something to that effect.

I bloody hate RTE. Its the same tired faces over and over again in the same cheaper rehashed versions of boring UK shows. If i see Katherine Thomas or daithi o Se in one more show ill put me boot through the screen.

murpho999 · 17-10-2016 09:02AM

Never get the hate for RTE.

Where else are you going to go for Irish News, Current affairs or Irish sports coverage?

There's some stuff I don't like such as Late Late, D'arcy but they are quite popular as RTE try to cater to everyone's taste.

I like their sports coverage, particularly football compared to other stations.
Also, like documentaries they show,even last week saw Kevin McGahern's America, which was entertaining.
Even shows like Nationwide, which I don't see a lot due to work, can be informative, and offer an insite into the country that you wouldn't normally see.

I think they do a decent job for what they have. Their 'stars', of which there are not really that many, are not paid that much compared to those overseas.

Speaking of which, go live abroad for a while, and realise how bad foreign TV can be. Lived in Netherlands for a while, and what they have there made me appreciate TV here a lot more.

Dravokivich · 17-10-2016 09:07AM

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

How could I forget. I saw an ad the other day for that sanctimonious prick Gay Byrne who we all thought retired years ago, in a show where he talks about God (only in Ireland) with famous people. Would he ever f*ck off? He's probably on an obscene pension from RTE as is without picking up this easy earner.

Its a show that's been doing the rounds a few years now. Stephen Fry presented as a fairly challenging interviewee for him too.

But the thing is, Gay has actually been quite ripped off by accountants. He's working again now because he has to.

Slieve Gullion · 17-10-2016 09:13AM

iDave wrote: »

Many of us have heard of the GAA player.

Did the OP hurt your feelings?

osarusan · 17-10-2016 10:18AM

They make some good stuff, but they recycle a lot of bad stuff, especially bad presenters, who just never seem to quite go away.

And when they have a good presenter, they put them everywhere, even on stuff they're not suited for at all.

The online player is like a bad joke with the amount of ads on it. It's like one of those apps that have ads every 30 seconds, that you delete after trying to use once.

17-10-2016 10:21AM

Saved by radio( RTE 1 is a very good station) and the news plus some of the current affairs, nationwide is not bad, nor is the late late, there are also a few quirky gems other that that it can be dire.

lawlolawl · 17-10-2016 10:31AM

The only good homegrown drama they've ever had was Love/Hate.

Their attempt at a home grown soap is laughably poor, Fair City would be embarrassing if an amateur dramatics group put it on at late notice. It's as if they set themselves a challenge to see how many of the worst actors in the country they could get in one place at one time.

I don't care about sport so the blanket coverage just irritates me.

News and current affairs are quite good on both TV and radio but can be a little bit left leaning but that's just the Irish media in general.

The schedule is taken up by a lot of mindless reruns of US and UK stuff though. Both RTE 1 and 2 are like a crappy digital channel buried in the Sky EPG a lot of the time.

Liveline is literally the best thing on any RTE service because it is the most unintentionally hilarious thing I have ever encountered. It is an open forum for every chancer, crackpot and lunatic in the nation hosted by a man who apparently couldn't give two ****s about his 300k a year job.

RTE, why would anyone pay for this?

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