UK Votes to leave EU

the evasion_kid · 15-10-2016 09:44PM

K-9 wrote: »

What EU regulations are the problem?

Well let's go with e-cigarettes here

Once you have an ECAS account and Submitter ID number, you can continue with the application process. The European Commission have published some guidance to help you with this. You can find this guidance by following the steps below:

Ensure you have a ECAS account and EC-ID number
Go to the EU-CEG website
Scroll down to the blue ‘browse the theme’ table and click ‘technical documents’
At the bottom of the page, click the link that says ‘For electronic cigarette and refill container stakeholders’. You will need an ECAS account to access this page. If you cannot see the information below, you will need to create an ECAS account and log in
You have now accessed the CIRCABC (Communication and Information Resource Centre for Administrations, Businesses and Citizens). Click ‘latest version of technical documents’
Unless you have an AS4 Access point, you will need to click ‘XML Submission through web interface’ (if you do not know whether you have an AS4 Access point, or are not sure what one is, we recommend you use the web-interface option)
On this page you will find:
The ETRUSTEX tutorial.pdf, which contains all the necessary information regarding how to:
submit your XML through the web interface;
read the encrypted messages sent by EU-CEG; and
manage user accounts in the XML upload system (E-trustex)
A keystore (EUCEG_GUI_USER) to decrypt the messages received by the EUCEG system. (The ETRUSTEX tutorial gives you the information about how to use this keystore)
How to install the XML creator tool procedure (procedure to install the TDP XML creator tool.pdf)
The XML creator system (tpd-xml-creator-tool-1.1.3.zip)
Unless you wish to use a bespoke XML file creator, the Commission have provided one that is free for you to use. To access it, download the tpd-xml-creator-tool-1.1.3.zip and run the file named the tpd-xml-creator-tool-1.1.3.jar
Once you have created your XML files using the tool, you can upload them to the portal by following the instructions in ETRUSTEX tutorial.pdf. Please note that MHRA does not run the notification portal or XML creator, and the steps above are for guidance only. If you have any difficulties, please contact the portal’s technical team directly via the email addresses below:

Fancy having a crack at it?not very appealing looking is it? But why do I get the feeling you're going to disagree with me anyway....

FrancieBrady · 15-10-2016 09:45PM

Macmillan tried in vain to join the EEC in the early 60's because he knew that the UK would become isolated and marginalised and would lose the favours of the US.
Now May is taking them out. They think they can go it alone when in fact they have rarely gone it alone. They built the empire on the backs of those they colonised and when they lost that they clung to the shirt tails of the real world superpower, riding shotgun for them and giving the US influence in Europe.

The mythmaking about their superiority in the world is about to come to a sad end, unless of course James Bond is based on reality, the superior British hero! Nobody does it better.

FA Hayek · 15-10-2016 09:47PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Says a man who claims republicans mostly don't care about innocent life.

I would say this is true for the most part. If they did why risk it and plant bombs in shopping centres of a busy Saturday afternoon?

FrancieBrady · 15-10-2016 09:56PM

FA Hayek wrote: »

I would say this is true for the most part. If they did why risk it and plant bombs in shopping centres of a busy Saturday afternoon?

And members of any army that opens fire on innocent civilians or carpet bombs a city or bombs a hospital?

catbear · 15-10-2016 10:08PM

What I'm amazed at is how unfreaked out they were about Jo Coxes death when compared to Lee Rigby.

Even on their radio the last few days events warzones that they don't have to be in are top stories compared to the actual events that will have a real impact on their daily lives.

It's like military prestige is more important than their economy.

Junkyard Tom · 15-10-2016 10:09PM

FA Hayek wrote: »

In fairness, our republican tradition is anything but republican in the real sense. Its more anti - English/British. If the Brits were a republic, we probably would have installed a King, just cause.

You haven't a clue.

FrancieBrady · 15-10-2016 10:19PM

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Well let's go with e-cigarettes here

Fancy having a crack at it?not very appealing looking is it? But why do I get the feeling you're going to disagree with me anyway....

What is the problem with that? Have you been in business long? It's just red tape and not very complicated red tape at that, try doing it before the internet.

the evasion_kid · 15-10-2016 10:23PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What is the problem with that? Have you been in business long? It's just red tape and not very complicated red tape at that, try doing it before the internet.

Yep I knew there would be one! Congrats!

FrancieBrady · 15-10-2016 10:24PM

catbear wrote: »

What I'm amazed at is how unfreaked out they were about Jo Coxes death when compared to Lee Rigby.

Even on their radio the last few days events warzones that they don't have to be in are top stories compared to the actual events that will have a real impact on their daily lives.

It's like military prestige is more important than their economy.

Thatcher used the Malvinas to bolster a failing career. No surprise here

FrancieBrady · 15-10-2016 10:26PM

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Yep I knew there would be one! Congrats!

Seriously, is that causing you to shut up shop? You should try the paper work/compliance/regs here. I'm doing Vat returns all evening.

greendom · 15-10-2016 10:29PM

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Yep I knew there would be one! Congrats!

The UK would have to come up with something very similar once EU regulation is ended in the UK. Added to that the importer may well have to pay import duties!

maryishere · 15-10-2016 10:48PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Thatcher used the Malvinas to bolster a failing career.

She defended the Falklands because almost 100% of the Falklanders were loyal to the UK and they were invaded by a load of conscripts from Argentina. She certainly did not do it to bolster a failing career because many considered it a risky thing to do, considering the number of Argentinian soldier who invaded the Falklands and the extended supply lines from the UK etc.

FrancieBrady · 15-10-2016 10:48PM

greendom wrote: »

The UK would have to come up with something very similar once EU regulation is ended in the UK. Added to that the importer may well have to pay import duties!

Tobacco got it's foothold because it's effects were not immediately apparent. If people died instantly from using it, it would have the status of arsenic.

Vaping is relatively new and needs regulation IMO and I am a vaper. I will be buying from compliant suppliers as I am sure most will. I am already saving multitudes of what it cost me to smoke so I am willing to pay more for it.

the evasion_kid · 15-10-2016 10:48PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Seriously, is that causing you to shut up shop? You should try the paper work/compliance/regs here. I'm doing Vat returns all evening.

Precisely the reason a lot of small business owners in the UK voted out...endless hours caught up in red tape,now thats alright if you're a multinational with a compliance team on the payroll...

http://news.sky.com/story/eu-vote-300-business-leaders-back-brexit-10284209

Anyhooo I'm off to bring the dog for his EU regulated walk...

the evasion_kid · 15-10-2016 10:50PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Tobacco got it's foothold because it's effects were not immediately apparent. If people died instantly from using it, it would have the status of arsenic.

Vaping is relatively new and needs regulation IMO and I am a vaper. I will be buying from compliant suppliers as I am sure most will. I am already saving multitudes of what it cost me to smoke so I am willing to pay more for it.

You better be prepared to pay a whole lot more for it..

FA Hayek · 15-10-2016 10:54PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And members of any army that opens fire on innocent civilians or carpet bombs a city or bombs a hospital?

We are not talking about the army here, we are talking about Irish Republicans. Again I, repeat. If they cared so much for innocent life, why did they plant bombs in Shopping Malls on busy Saturday afternoons.

catbear · 15-10-2016 10:56PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Thatcher used the Malvinas to bolster a failing career. No surprise here

Hey what do you know, the UK is having war games down there next week!
http://www.efe.com/efe/english/portada/argentina-demands-that-u-k-call-off-wargames-in-the-falklands/50000260-3068253

I bet this will bury Brexit in the UK tabloids for a week at least. May might even try to engineer a standoff to maximise value.

FrancieBrady · 15-10-2016 10:56PM

maryishere wrote: »

She defended the Falklands because almost 100% of the Falklanders were loyal to the UK and they were invaded by a load of conscripts from Argentina. She certainly did not do it to bolster a failing career because many considered it a risky thing to do, considering the number of Argentinian soldier who invaded the Falklands and the extended supply lines from the UK etc.

She took a risk, it paid off. She considered not responding, Regan implored her not to and almost suceeded and most of her cabinet didn't want to respond either.
Hardly, a heroic rush to defend loyalists.

greendom · 15-10-2016 10:58PM

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Precisely the reason a lot of small business owners in the UK voted out...endless hours caught up in red tape,now thats alright if you're a multinational with a compliance team on the payroll...

http://news.sky.com/story/eu-vote-300-business-leaders-back-brexit-10284209

Anyhooo I'm off to bring the dog for his EU regulated walk...

What makes you think this is particular to the EU. Regulations, red tape, call it what you will exists in all economies.

maryishere · 15-10-2016 10:58PM

FA Hayek wrote: »

We are not talking about the army here, we are talking about Irish Republicans. Again I, repeat. If they cared so much for innocent life, why did they plant bombs in Shopping Malls on busy Saturday afternoons.

Or indeed plant bombs in restaurants (eg Le Mons ), shopping centres of cities ( Bloody Friday etc ), Remembrance day ceremonies ( Enniskillen) , etc.

FA Hayek · 15-10-2016 11:02PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

You haven't a clue.

Ah, yes we in Ireland espouse real true Roman Republican principles by seeding power and influence over moral affairs of the state over to the Catholic Church, where women for more or less seen as baby making machines.

Where women were less free after independence then before.
Where writers and playwrights were subjected to more censorship then the UK.
Where our greatest export was people (to Britain)
Where political dynasties are built on a name and who your father was.
Where our political makeup is till defined by what happened in the civil war, 100 years ago.

Yes, real republican ideals there. ROFL

In Ireland, we are not Republican in any real sense of the world. Look at the French for example, look at the Americans. They are Republic's. They took power from the monarchy in one and from the Brits in another. They created their own state among their own founding principles.

Irish Republicanism is defined by violence and a hatred of all things British and Anglo. It is defined by what it is not (British or English), not by what it is.

FA Hayek · 15-10-2016 11:06PM

maryishere wrote: »

Or indeed plant bombs in restaurants (eg Le Mons ), shopping centres of cities ( Bloody Friday etc ), Remembrance day ceremonies ( Enniskillen) , etc.

Oh, agree. Again people want to reject these facts because they are uncomfortable. They get butt hurt when people points out these facts to them.

FrancieBrady · 15-10-2016 11:08PM

FA Hayek wrote: »

We are not talking about the army here, we are talking about Irish Republicans. Again I, repeat. If they cared so much for innocent life, why did they plant bombs in Shopping Malls on busy Saturday afternoons.

The British army are not my army. They have over centuries and more particularly recently, perpetrated acts of terror here.

Do I as an Irish republican hold the entire British people who support their army responsible? No I don't. That is just silly and hysterical.
Do I as an Irish republican think the British army killed innocent civilians deliberately? Yes I do. Do I hold British people responsible, no I don't.
Do I think the British killed innocents by accident, yes I do. Do I demean the British people, no I don't.
Do I think terrible things happen in wars/conflict, yes I do
Do I get hysterical about the things one side do in wars/conflict, no I don't.

maryishere · 15-10-2016 11:15PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Do I...

You have not answered the question. If the PIRA cared so much for innocent life, why did they plant bombs in Shopping Malls on busy Saturday afternoons?

Junkyard Tom · 15-10-2016 11:15PM

FA Hayek wrote: »

Irish Republicanism is defined by violence and a hatred of all things British and Anglo. It is defined by what it is not (British or English), not by what it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc

Fratton Fred · 15-10-2016 11:16PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The British army are not my army. They have over centuries and more particularly recently, perpetrated acts of terror here.

Do I as an Irish republican hold the entire British people who support their army responsible? No I don't. That is just silly and hysterical.
Do I as an Irish republican think the British army killed innocent civilians deliberately? Yes I do. Do I hold British people responsible, no I don't.
Do I think the British killed innocents by accident, yes I do. Do I demean the British people, no I don't.
Do I think terrible things happen in wars/conflict, yes I do
Do I get hysterical about the things one side do in wars/conflict, no I don't.

And yet you don't condemn the acts Mary spoke about above.

FrancieBrady · 15-10-2016 11:20PM

maryishere wrote: »

You have not answered the question. If the PIRA cared so much for innocent life, why did they plant bombs in Shopping Malls on busy Saturday afternoons?

To spread terror, the same reason you bomb cities from the air. Churchill knew about it.
It's terrible and I couldn't order it, but many have. Want a list?

maryishere · 15-10-2016 11:23PM

Whataboutaderry. Now answer the question. If the PIRA cared so much for innocent life, why did they plant bombs in Shopping Malls on busy Saturday afternoons?

Fratton Fred · 15-10-2016 11:25PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

To spread terror

So they were terrorists then?

catbear · 15-10-2016 11:25PM

Republicanism isn't confined to Ireland, look at those american terrorists that fought the civilized brits for independence!

Republicanism is anathema to Brits because it threatens their class system, even the poor defend their position.

They all want their place in Dowton abbey.

UK Votes to leave EU

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