Bob Dylan - Nobel Prize for Literature

13-10-2016 09:53PM

murpho999 wrote: »

In your opinion.....

No, in the opinion of the entire world obviously. I look forward to you prefacing every post with "In my opinion", just in case we might think you could be speaking for somebody other than yourself.

Yamanoto · 13-10-2016 09:55PM

Paul Simon is every bit as talented a lyricist & his singing and guitar playing were so far beyond what Dylan was capable of.

JupiterKid · 13-10-2016 09:59PM

Well deserved IMO.

Dylan's influence on the genre of rock, folk and pop is difficult to fathom but is undeniably massive. I know people think he's overrated but I personally think Dylan really earned this accolade.

And I'm not even a huge Dylan fan.

Tigger · 13-10-2016 10:06PM

Obama won the peace prize so yeah they jumped the shark years ago

murpho999 · 13-10-2016 11:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No, in the opinion of the entire world obviously. I look forward to you prefacing every post with "In my opinion", just in case we might think you could be speaking for somebody other than yourself.

No, because before today Bob Dylan was renowned as an exceptional song writer and lyricist and has been a major influence on music since.

Of course today he receives a reward and very predictably, somebody comes on to the internet to say how crap he is.

Your post came across completely arrogant to me and I don't see how you can call his work pedestrian when he just been recognised by a major international awards body.

murpho999 · 13-10-2016 11:20PM

Yamanoto wrote: »

Paul Simon is every bit as talented a lyricist & his singing and guitar playing were so far beyond what Dylan was capable of.

Bob Dylan did not win this award for singing or guitar playing.

AckwelFoley · 13-10-2016 11:26PM

Well deserved. This may open the door for 2pac to get the recognition he deserves

Yamanoto · 13-10-2016 11:34PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Bob Dylan did not win this award for singing or guitar playing.

I didn't say he did.

andekwarhola · 13-10-2016 11:37PM

Enough people rate him for me to accept it but the appeal and worth just completely passes me over, despite periodic efforts to grasp it.

murpho999 · 13-10-2016 11:40PM

Yamanoto wrote: »

I didn't say he did.

Well you compared their singing and guitar playing in the context of winning the Nobel prize so what else are people to infer from it?

juneg · 13-10-2016 11:43PM

murpho999 wrote: »

In fairness, he didn't win the award for singing. Even though I could not imagine his songs with his own distinctive voice.

Masters of War has amazing lyrics.

Great to see a lyricist get recognised as having literature merit.

This could open the flood gates, and I look forward to seeing Beyonce, Calvin Harris, Daft Punk,Taylor Swift and One Direction pick up awards in the future.

Shane mc Gowan maybe?

Yamanoto · 13-10-2016 11:43PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Well you compared their singing and guitar playing i the context of winning the Nobel prize so what else are people to infer from it.

That you're overly sensitive to criticism of Bob Dylan.

phelixoflaherty · 13-10-2016 11:43PM

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He should get it for his Radio Programme.
Pitch perfect.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 13-10-2016 11:45PM

Cormac McCarthy still hasn't won this.

You'd think someone like him would be far more deserving than Bob Dylan.

juneg · 13-10-2016 11:48PM

I was wondering why there were so many Bob Dylan tracks being played on the radio today

Zaph · 13-10-2016 11:48PM

I wouldn't be a particular fan of Dylan, but I'm delighted to see that the committee are stretching their boundaries a little and not doing their usual of giving the award to some obscure writer who wrote a bunch of impenetrable novels about the human condition 30 years ago that nobody wants to read.

buried · 14-10-2016 12:10AM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Cormac McCarthy still hasn't won this.

You'd think someone like him would be far more deserving than Bob Dylan.

Never going to happen. But probably better off. The Nobel Prize for Literature is nothing but a modern industry standard award to showcase what the mainstream industry deems safe and acceptable for the majority to look into now. Someone who wrote the genius of 'Blood Meridian' isn't going to get that. Same as writers such as Alan Moore will never get it in this current age either. Its years from now when those guys get the acknowledgement they deserve, and IMO that's going to be the greatest acknowledgement.

murpho999 · 14-10-2016 12:18AM

Yamanoto wrote: »

That you're overly sensitive to criticism of Bob Dylan.

Not at all, would not even be a big fan of his music, not my style, but I do respect his talent and he had a huge impact in the 60s, which was his heyday as his music and social commentary had never been seen before.

Billy86 · 14-10-2016 12:18AM

weisses wrote: »

Ahh who gives a crap

He cannot sing anymore so Lets give the guy some award for his writing

He never really could sing much to be honest, just his writing was so fecking good that it completely (and rightly) overshadowed that. He knew how to make a so-so-at-best voice work for him.

That said, I prefer Neil Young (apart from the coked up awful 80s phase).

Cee-Jay-Cee · 14-10-2016 12:20AM

The competition must have been poor when old 'stuffed sinuses' Bob wins the prize. His music is absolutely god awful dreadful rubbish made worse by his so called singing.

Isn't he dead though? could they not give it to someone living???

mzungu · 14-10-2016 12:26AM

Billy86 wrote: »

That said, I prefer Neil Young (apart from the coked up awful 80s phase).

The 80s was indeed a dodgy period, however it was mostly his foray into heavy synth sounds that were embarrassing. The live shows were still good, and he found his feet again as the decade came to a close. I dunno if I would blame his substance abuse for it, he was gobbling stuff up like it was going out of fashion the previous two decades with no negative effect on musical output. I think the 80s just didn't suit him.

Back on topic, good to see Dylan winning it. It also meant there was decent music on the radio for the first time since Bowie died.

14-10-2016 12:36AM

Bob Dylan - making Starbucks taste better since 2005. Coincidentally the same year all his albums went into my bin.

He was only ever a poor man's John Prine anyway.

buried · 14-10-2016 12:40AM

It ain't a music award in fairness, and even if it was how in the name of the christ should Bob Dylan be winning it? Anything good he ever wrote failed in its aim. "the times they are a changing" well bob 8 years ago the free world franchise was promised "change" and "hope" but now the free world franchise got Hillary and Trump. F**k off man. Give it to Kenny Loggins

Esel · 14-10-2016 01:59AM

Literature, in three or four minute slices now? Or even four plus minutes? K.

It's not the number of pages, it's not the quality of the writing, it's the words at the end of the line, it's not about the swine. How long is a piece of twine?

Someone who ripped off lyrics from previous authors should not win any global award. Unless it (the award) comes from guilt - as this one does...

Albert hypnotised
Bob realised
Think Jack
Kerouac

pappyodaniel · 14-10-2016 02:55AM

I'm a quarter way through the Bob Dylan biography 'Down the Highway' by Howard Sounes so for the most recent chapters, it has been focused mainly on his formative years in his late teens - early twenties. I cannot get over how big a douche the guy was back then. Using people, womanising, double crossing friends and nicking tunes from obscure musicians for his own personal gain. The guy comes across as an absolute rat bag..,.and saying all that I'd be a casual fan.

As regards him winning a Nobel prize for Literature, it's not for me to comment.

Arghus · 14-10-2016 02:55AM

I think he deserves it. Most of the haters in here are just trying to be edgy while having precisely and evidently no clue what they are on about.

I mean some poor deluded fool suggested Morrisey is a better lyricist. Think about that.

Morrisey....

daithi7 · 14-10-2016 03:03AM

Great news imho, well deserved for a legendary artist, and voice(& lyricist) of a generation.

Dylan's lyrics, at their best are simply masterful, some of the lyrics from his early stuff, the album 'Desire', and a few of his 90s & noughties albums are classics e.g. tambourine man, the Times they are changing, etc, etc

'...well just how much abuse,
will you be able to take,
There's no telling from the first kiss,
What's a sweetheart like you,
doing in a dump like this...'

The brilliant Bob Dylan

GerB40 · 14-10-2016 03:06AM

Red Kev wrote: »

Well deserved, great lyricist, not the best singer, but I'd forgive him that.

Just look at the lyrics to 'Masters of War', he wrote that in 1962, could have written it last week as well, or any time in between.

Look up 'Bob Dylans 30th Anniversary Concert' on YouTube, some of the best covers of his songs that are out there, ( incidentally it's also the concert where Sinead O'Connor got booed off as it was a couple of weeks after she ripped up the picture of the Pope on TV).

The version of My Back Pages is unreal...

topmanamillion · 14-10-2016 03:09AM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Cormac McCarthy still hasn't won this.

You'd think someone like him would be far more deserving than Bob Dylan.

I had the misfortune to read "The Road" and followed it up with the film.
The reason I watched the film was because I thought I'd missed a deeper meaning in the book.
Nope, it really was about a man and his son wandering around until the man died.

Realt Dearg Sec · 14-10-2016 03:10AM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

The competition must have been poor when old 'stuffed sinuses' Bob wins the prize. His music is absolutely god awful dreadful rubbish made worse by his so called singing.

Isn't he dead though? could they not give it to someone living???

You know what literature means, right?

Bob Dylan - Nobel Prize for Literature

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