Bob Dylan - Nobel Prize for Literature

Lovely Bloke · 13-10-2016 12:32PM #1

Major surprise, with many "experts" predicting some liberal-pleasing minority winner.

Nope.

Bob Dylan.

I'm no fan of his music, but it's good to finally see a White Male being recognised.

stimpson · 13-10-2016 12:36PM

Lovely Bloke wrote: »

Major surprise, with many "experts" predicting some liberal-pleasing minority winner.

Nope.

Bob Dylan.

I'm no fan of his music, but it's good to finally see a White Male being recognised.

Absolutely. It has only been won by white males 11 times since 2000.

endacl · 13-10-2016 12:37PM

stimpson wrote: »

Absolutely. It has only been won by white males 11 times since 2000.

Shocking. Where did I leave my pitchfork...

Working class heroes · 13-10-2016 12:42PM

Slim shady next year so.

13-10-2016 12:46PM

Jesus.

H.

Christ.

Jesus Christ.

Dylan wins a Nobel Prize and the message taken by the OP is the oppression of the white male.

GLaDOS · 13-10-2016 12:47PM

I'm assuming the OP is taking the piss

Shenshen · 13-10-2016 12:48PM

Lovely Bloke wrote: »

Major surprise, with many "experts" predicting some liberal-pleasing minority winner.

Nope.

Bob Dylan.

I'm no fan of his music, but it's good to finally see a White Male being recognised.

Finally, indeed!

Out of 110 winners to date, 77 are (or were, in many cases) white males. I'm sure they were feeling massively left out at this point.

Arghus · 13-10-2016 12:51PM

First class wind up there from the OP.

Either that, or he's crackers.

weisses · 13-10-2016 12:52PM

Ahh who gives a crap

He cannot sing anymore so Lets give the guy some award for his writing

Winterlong · 13-10-2016 01:15PM

Dont know much about the nobel prize for literature but I do know that these are the finest lyrics known to this man.

Idiot wind blowing every time your move your mouth
Blowing down the backroads heading south
Idiot wind blowing every time you move your teeth
You're an idiot babe
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe

Red Kev · 13-10-2016 01:24PM

Well deserved, great lyricist, not the best singer, but I'd forgive him that.

Just look at the lyrics to 'Masters of War', he wrote that in 1962, could have written it last week as well, or any time in between.

Look up 'Bob Dylans 30th Anniversary Concert' on YouTube, some of the best covers of his songs that are out there, ( incidentally it's also the concert where Sinead O'Connor got booed off as it was a couple of weeks after she ripped up the picture of the Pope on TV).

Your Face · 13-10-2016 01:26PM

Cungratz Hun.

The Backwards Man · 13-10-2016 01:37PM

It was Wagon Wheel what won it.

RasTa · 13-10-2016 01:39PM

Lovely Bloke wrote: »

Major surprise, with many "experts" predicting some liberal-pleasing minority winner.

Nope.

Bob Dylan.

I'm no fan of his music, but it's good to finally see a White Male being recognised.

But he is a jew?

Pac1Man · 13-10-2016 02:04PM

Thought he was great in The Field.

murpho999 · 13-10-2016 02:16PM

Red Kev wrote: »

Well deserved, great lyricist, not the best singer, but I'd forgive him that.

Just look at the lyrics to 'Masters of War', he wrote that in 1962, could have written it last week as well, or any time in between.

Look up 'Bob Dylans 30th Anniversary Concert' on YouTube, some of the best covers of his songs that are out there, ( incidentally it's also the concert where Sinead O'Connor got booed off as it was a couple of weeks after she ripped up the picture of the Pope on TV).

In fairness, he didn't win the award for singing. Even though I could not imagine his songs without his own distinctive voice.

Masters of War has amazing lyrics.

Great to see a lyricist get recognised as having literature merit.

This could open the flood gates, and I look forward to seeing Beyonce, Calvin Harris, Daft Punk,Taylor Swift and One Direction pick up awards in the future.

biko · 13-10-2016 02:53PM

How the **** can that guy win a Nobel Prize?

"for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition".
my hole!

Permabear · 13-10-2016 02:57PM

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lertsnim · 13-10-2016 02:57PM

So long as it wasn't the Nobel prize for live performances.

murpho999 · 13-10-2016 03:04PM

biko wrote: »

How the **** can that guy win a Nobel Prize?

"for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition".
my hole!

So please enighten us with the songs/poems that you have created?

JimmyJabber · 13-10-2016 03:10PM

Freewheelin' Bob Dylan and Blood on the Tracks have some of the most impressive lyrics ever written in my opinion. Taking topics such as love and politics and making them extremely interesting to listen to, instead of the absolute mulch that is currently around.

Probably my favourite Bob Dylan lyrics...

"If you're traveling in the north country fair
Where the winds hit heavy on the borderline
Remember me to one who lives there
For she was once a true love of mine.

Well, if you go when the snowflakes storm
When the rivers freeze and summer ends
Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm
To keep her from the howlin' winds.

Please see from me if her hair hanging down
If it curls and flows all down her breast
Please see from me if her hair hanging down
That's the way I remember her best."

LuckyLloyd · 13-10-2016 03:17PM

biko wrote: »

How the **** can that guy win a Nobel Prize?

"for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition".
my hole!

Written in 1963:

I ain't lookin' to compete with you
Beat or cheat or mistreat you
Simplify you, classify you
Deny, defy or crucify you
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you

No, and I ain't lookin' to fight with you
Frighten you or uptighten you
Drag you down or drain you down
Chain you down or bring you down
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you

I ain't lookin' to block you up
Shock or knock or lock you up
Analyze you, categorize you
Finalize you or advertise you
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you

I don't want to straight-face you
Race or chase you, track or trace you
Or disgrace you or displace you
Or define you or confine you
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you

I don't want to meet your kin
Make you spin or do you in
Or select you or dissect you
Or inspect you or reject you
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you

I don't want to fake you out
Take or shake or forsake you out
I ain't lookin' for you to feel like me
See like me or be like me
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you

As a former literature student, Dylan winning a prize like this makes sense to me at least.

Ted111 · 13-10-2016 04:18PM

I think he should try his hand at a murder mystery next.

MrDiyFan · 13-10-2016 09:24PM

Masters of war from the 1984 live album is incredible

Esel · 13-10-2016 09:30PM

Bob is a good rhymster.

Tin Foil Hat · 13-10-2016 09:43PM

Ted111 wrote: »

I think he should try his hand at a murder mystery next.

Lily, Rosemary, and The Jack of Hearts ?

13-10-2016 09:44PM

Leonard Cohen is a much better songwriter. Has more variety - humour, wit, anger, the depths of pain and suffering and the heights of love. In terms of cultural and poetic richness Dylan is decidedly pedestrian in contrast.

Permabear · 13-10-2016 09:45PM

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murpho999 · 13-10-2016 09:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Leonard Cohen is a much better songwriter. Has more variety - humour, wit, anger, the depths of pain and suffering and the heights of love. In terms of cultural and poetic richness Dylan is decidedly pedestrian in contrast.

In your opinion.....

MrDiyFan · 13-10-2016 09:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Leonard Cohen is a much better songwriter. Has more variety - humour, wit, anger, the depths of pain and suffering and the heights of love. In terms of cultural and poetic richness Dylan is decidedly pedestrian in contrast.

Morrissey or Elvis Costello were more deserving

Esel · 13-10-2016 09:52PM

It's a travesty, imo.

Bob Dylan - Nobel Prize for Literature

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