UK Votes to leave EU

maryishere · 09-10-2016 01:11AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

And still no list for the eu/euro zone

no need, its done in colours and percentages even you should understand.

Junkyard Tom · 09-10-2016 01:13AM

maryishere wrote: »

no need, its done in colours and percentages even you should understand.

The EU isn't even represented as one shade such is your lack of intellectual rigour.

tomwaterford · 09-10-2016 01:15AM

maryishere wrote: »

no need, its done in colours and percentages even you should understand.

But it's not??..

It's done indivudually even Switzerland is couler in ffs

How are the debt to gdp ratios comparable when you don't know how much gdp each country contributed to the euro zone

Your basis for establishing facts is flawed at best?

maryishere · 09-10-2016 01:15AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

The EU isn't even represented as one shade such is your lack of intellectual rigour.

Correct, it is in different shades, to make the information more detailed and accurate.;)

tomwaterford · 09-10-2016 01:16AM

maryishere wrote: »

Correct, it is in different shades, to make the information more detailed and accurate.;)

Your essentially saying your wrong and proud of it here :pac:

Junkyard Tom · 09-10-2016 01:17AM

EU debt: 87.4% of GDP (2013)

UK debt: 90.6% of GDP (2013)

So if the EU is finished then Britain is finished Mary because its Debt to GDP ratio is even worse.

maryishere · 09-10-2016 01:24AM

But it has assets as well as liabilities, old chap. Which put it as wealthier than EC countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_wealth

tomwaterford · 09-10-2016 01:25AM

maryishere wrote: »

But it has assets as well as liabilities, old chap. Which put it as wealthier than EC countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_wealth

It hardly has assets which accumulate to more than the the eu/euro zone combined??

A somewhat desperate throw of the dice??

A simple quick look shows France and it Italy combined have more than it.....but do continue

maryishere · 09-10-2016 01:33AM

You used the word "combined" - not me. lol

tomwaterford · 09-10-2016 01:36AM

maryishere wrote: »

You used the word "combined" - not me. lol

So we are to take it that when you are referring g to eu/euro zone debt your not referring to its combined debt???

Somewhat strange logic

Junkyard Tom · 09-10-2016 01:36AM

maryishere wrote: »

But it has assets as well as liabilities, old chap. Which put it as wealthier than EC countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_wealth

So now that your 'the EU is finished because of debt' claim has been exposed for the bullshit it is you want to move the goalposts?

Embarrassed for you.

Capt'n Midnight · 09-10-2016 01:38AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The Great Wall of Ulster!

Don't you mean Black Pig's Dyke ?

http://www.blackpigsdyke.ie/what-is-it/what-is-the-black-pigs-dyke/

maryishere · 09-10-2016 01:48AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

So we are to take it that when you are referring g to eu/euro zone debt your not referring to its combined debt???

no, debt relative to size / gdp.
We all know the EC is much bigger than the UK.

tomwaterford · 09-10-2016 01:52AM

maryishere wrote: »

no, debt relative to size / gdp.
We all know the EC is much bigger than the UK.

Surly most accurate way is to measure percentages in this case????
As figures rarely lie #mathlove

Which JT has shown UK to be higher

Though trying to suggest the uk had more asset thing was gold :pac:

maryishere · 09-10-2016 02:05AM

Eurozone debt to gdp is higher than that in the UK
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/11705720/European-debt-crisis-Its-not-just-Greece-thats-drowning-in-debt.html

Junkyard Tom · 09-10-2016 02:17AM

Mary is using the Homer Simpson strategy of internet discussion. Let them keep punching you in the head until they're exhausted and then push them over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHTxOlFfUa0

A Dub in Glasgo · 09-10-2016 08:09AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

It drew a significant number of leave votes though. Fishing areas in Scotland, East Anglia and Cornwall came out very strongly against it and the Scottish fishing industry has warned the SNP against running an independence campaign based on rejoining the eu.

But they're probably xenophobic little Englanders.

Every council area in Scotland voted to stay in the EU

A Dub in Glasgo · 09-10-2016 08:13AM

maryishere wrote: »

Have you a source for that as the latest data on wiki suggests EC debt is far higher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt#/media/File:Government_debt_gdp.jpg

Hell will freeze when you provide sources for all your 'facts'

Fratton Fred · 09-10-2016 09:49AM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Every council area in Scotland voted to stay in the EU

It did, yes.

In the fishing communities though it was very close, as you well know and the SNP are in danger of losing an influential supporter.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/04/scotland-fishing-federation-ministers-brexit-eu-referendum

steddyeddy · 09-10-2016 10:03AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Mary is using the Homer Simpson strategy of internet discussion. Let them keep punching you in the head until they're exhausted and then push them over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHTxOlFfUa0

It's like talking to a brick wall from theOrange Order.

Pro Hoc Vice · 09-10-2016 10:46AM

A Little Pony wrote: »

I think you will find that I'm not.
The 1916 rebels would never have accepted Ireland being in the EU as it would taken away its Independence. Free movement of people for all citizens who live within the EU and you can't control it at all. That is simply not Independence.

Sean Lemass was a rebel as a 17 year old in the GPO and strongly supported Ireland joining the EEC.

Free movement has a number of controls.

maryishere · 09-10-2016 11:11AM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Hell will freeze when you provide sources for all your 'facts'

Says you that did not even read the link!

A Dub in Glasgo · 09-10-2016 11:37AM

maryishere wrote: »

Says you that did not even read the link!

I have read enough of your 'facts' to know that you are a waffler

bashahurley · 09-10-2016 11:40AM

long time reader of boards but as a Brit living in Ireland I find MARYISHERE blanket defending of every thing British a little strange to say the least,

steddyeddy · 09-10-2016 11:46AM

bashahurley wrote: »

long time reader of boards but as a Brit living in Ireland I find MARYISHERE blanket defending of every thing British a little strange to say the least,

As an Irish man living in Britain I have met a total of zero people with views like Mary's. In other words I don't buy it.

Christy42 · 09-10-2016 11:51AM

the evasion_kid wrote: »

I just find it odd that people would champion on something like that..

I feel like it is a bit of an ask to remove the UK from the continent of Europe. Of course a country's policies will be affected by their closest neighbours.

indioblack · 09-10-2016 11:59AM

GreenFolder2 wrote: »

I'm getting fed up with the whole thing!

We're only *just* over the 2007/8 meltdown and things were looking good and among came the Brexiteers with lots of bluster and no plan.

How the hell are you supposed to run a business in this stupid part of the world?

Just seems we've gone from reasonable run of stability to just crisis after critics.
I suspect we are on our way towards being more like Latin America.

I'm inclined to agree with you - but then, I'm one of those whinging Remainers!
I wondered why Cameron went ahead with the Referendum - and better informed posters here reminded me that it was internal Conservative Party pressure.
How much Sovereignty do we need?
Immigration? Where I work we have Poles, Romanians, Hungarians, French people - even Welsh! Most are sound, no problem.
Have to add, though, that this country is getting very overcrowded - it's a relatively small place with a large population.
We have to follow the democratic will of the people. Why? [Got into trouble for saying this before!]. How many voters were aware of the full ramifications that might/will occur as a result of their vote.
The Brexiteer leaders have slid away into either obscurity or comfortable new careers.
Cameron is gone - he should have stayed.
"We are not leaving Europe". But, in a sense, we are - after 42 years. We lacked commitment.
Will the Eu collapse? I doubt it, it won't be allowed to happen.
Will we survive outside of the EU? We have to, so we will - but to quote Bette Davis " Fasten your safety belts, you're in for a bumpy ride".

09-10-2016 01:09PM

And after all that, the claims and counter-claims, the removal of the UK from the European Union, they make this "discovery"

All EU nationals currently living in Britain will be allowed to stay following Brexit, after the Home Office discovered that five in six could not legally be deported.

Daily Telegraph: Every EU migrant can stay in UK after Brexit: all 3.6 million to have residency rules or get amnesty

What say the Brexiters now?

tomwaterford · 09-10-2016 01:11PM

bashahurley wrote: »

long time reader of boards but as a Brit living in Ireland I find MARYISHERE blanket defending of every thing British a little strange to say the least,

To be fair a good troll is funny

....but she's neithŕ

catbear · 09-10-2016 01:39PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

To be fair a good troll is funny ....but she's neith

just add her to the ignore list to starve her of oxygen.

UK Votes to leave EU

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