Want back to Syria....Limerick's too violent

Jesus. · 09-10-2016 04:02AM #1

Just read this story in today's Star. First paragraph reads:

"A family who fled war-torn Syria for a new life in Limerick expressed a desire to return to their homeland after spending just 13 days in the city - because they believed it was too violent, a court has heard."

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 04:06AM

Adios

Stigura · 09-10-2016 04:07AM

Fab City!

DeKing · 09-10-2016 04:08AM

Heh you sure it was The Star? Sounds like summat Waterford Whisperers would put out

Jesus. · 09-10-2016 04:14AM

DeKing wrote: »

Heh you sure it was The Star? Sounds like summat Waterford Whisperers would put out

Tis the Star alright. I have it here in me hands!

Apparently their young lad wouldn't give a local boy a shmoke and he belted the lard out of him with a hurley

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 04:16AM

I'm sure there was another thread.
White criminal with multiple convictions against western Europeans then assaulted Syrian refugee.
Now it's big news,poor refugees don't feel safe in Ireland.
Sure someone should tell them it's bad luck they've more chance of being hurt crossing the road.
Feel safer in a warzone??? Go on then.

Jesus. · 09-10-2016 04:22AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Feel safer in a warzone???

Could be onto something here for the Limerick tourism board

"Want a unique city experience that'll get your adrenaline pumping?

Visit Limerick. You'd feel safer in a warzone"

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 04:24AM

Jesus. wrote: »

Could be onto something here for the Limerick tourism board

"Want a unique city experience that'll get your adrenaline pumping?

Worse than a warzone. Visit Limerick"

Bad form but lol.
I just think if it was me,an Irish guy,it wouldn't of made the news.

DeKing · 09-10-2016 04:24AM

Jesus. wrote:

Apparently their young lad wouldn't give a local boy a shmoke and he belted the lard out of him with a hurley

Ahhhh he got a belt of the mighty hurley. That would send anyone packing.

09-10-2016 04:57AM

The victim was 16, chased, and beaten unconscious. He was traumatised and still has head pains.

I can understand why this made the news. I'm not really getting the funny side though.

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 05:00AM

Its not funny it's fcukin disgraceful,16 or not this happens in every town in this country...Its not strange or unusual...

09-10-2016 05:12AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Its not funny it's fcukin disgraceful,16 or not this happens in every town in this country...Its not strange or unusual...

Were you not being at least a bit glib with the "sure it could be worse crossing the road" comment?

The story was not reported widely when it happened. It arose in the context of the reporting of the trial - the accused assaulted another man who needed reconstructive surgery. The comment from the family about not feeling safe here was made then. And a newspaper picked up on that, as they do, because it adds more interest than a "man assaults 2 people" headline.

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 05:43AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Were you not being at least a bit glib with the "sure it could be worse crossing the road" comment?

The story was not reported widely when it happened. It arose in the context of the reporting of the trial - the accused assaulted another man who needed reconstructive surgery. The comment from the family about not feeling safe here was made then. And a newspaper picked up on that, as they do, because it adds more interest than a "man assaults 2 people" headline.

My glibness is in context of the people who disregard the fears of people being caught up in atrocities across Europe by saying we're more likely to get hurt in much more innocent ways.We are in.Ireland it happens sometimes.
This poor family have been subjected to an assault by an absolute scumbag,who had previously hurt many many others as you say a man needing reconstructive surgery,but why only now did we hear about a Syrian 16 year old and not about the the rest,by all accounts the perpetrator was a loose canon,why now,what about the man who needed his face put back together....
Why point out Syria is preferable to limerick...Why not be abhorred about a man being beaten so bad he needed his face to be reconstructed

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 06:02AM

I'm annoyed that it took a minority to be affected before this became news,this should if been sorted by our police and courts after this man reoffended.These people should have been protected by our justice system.
Still rather Limerick than Syria though.

09-10-2016 06:27AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

I'm annoyed that it took a minority to be affected before this became news...

But it didn't. That's the point. It wasn't reported when it happened.

It took it going to trial for it to become news. The assault, the plight of the family, they weren't reported until the case was reported. Why did the coverage lead with the Syrian angle at that point? Because it adds more drama, that's all, they had been here just a few days when their teenage son was beaten unconscious.

Incidentally, the same paper now carrying the story of an Irish man beaten up by North Africans in France. They don't ignore white Irish victims, or bad foreigners...

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 06:37AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But it didn't. That's the point. It wasn't reported when it happened.

It took it going to trial for it to become news. The assault, the plight of the family, they weren't reported until the case was reported. Why did the coverage lead with the Syrian angle at that point? Because it adds more drama, that's all, they had been here just a few days when their teenage son was beaten unconscious.

Incidentally, the same paper now carrying the story of an Irish man beaten up by North Africans in France. They don't ignore white Irish victims, or bad foreigners...

No point going on about a different story...what about the plight of ALL the families that were affected by this scum...
Like you say it's highlighted because its a Syrian family,more drama,no drama in an Irish family being affected by this man's actions,it makes no difference if they're here a few days or all they're lives.
Syrian family,Irish family, both dealt with the same scenario,I didn't hear any report of how it's not safe for his Irish victims

pickarooney · 09-10-2016 06:41AM

It's a headline because it's rather bitterly ironic, no more, no less.

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 06:44AM

Lets simplify it...my 16 year old child was beaten,hospitalised,I said in court it wasn't safe in limerick I'd rather be home in Dublin....would it make news?

pickarooney · 09-10-2016 06:51AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Lets simplify it...my 16 year old child was beaten,hospitalised,I said in court it wasn't safe in limerick I'd rather be home in Dublin....would it make news?

No, because Dublin is not a place where refugees flee wars. So the irony wouldn't work.

09-10-2016 06:55AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Lets simplify it...my 16 year old child was beaten,hospitalised,I said in court it wasn't safe in limerick I'd rather be home in Dublin....would it make news?

Did you not just say "no point going on with other stories"...and then just base a whole post around an invented and hypothetical one?

Now that's irony, and it works...

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 07:05AM

My whole point is it wouldn't be news if it wasn't a refugee,so I'm saying if it was a local affected by this it wouldn't be News,it's not iro y,ironic or anything like that,it's common sense

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 07:07AM

Sorry I'm on my phone

hairyslug · 09-10-2016 07:09AM

Journalism has changed, it is more about getting the clicks and the advertising revenue than anything else. An Irish lad getting assaulted would make the local papers, my friend was bet half to death, was in a coma but it didn't make it past whichever local paper they have in Carrick.
If the family had not said that limerick was worse than a war zone, this would have probably been buried on page 17 of some free paper.
For journalism, it's sad to see that click bait is taking over.

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 07:14AM

pickarooney wrote: »

No, because Dublin is not a place where refugees flee wars. So the irony wouldn't work.

Pickarooney,your right,why would they want to go back to Syria,Dublin is worse than limerick,Syria is worse than Dublin...Don't be silly its who in their right mind would want to leave limerick to go back to a warzone...Its not irony

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 07:20AM

Like I said in my first post...adios...we deal with these scum all the time if they can't deal with it then fcuk off...this **** happens here we all deal with it and it's a damn sight better than the middle east.

volchitsa · 09-10-2016 07:30AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Like I said in my first post...adios...we deal with these scum all the time if they can't deal with it then fcuk off...this **** happens here we all deal with it and it's a damn sight better than the middle east.

Oh well that's grand then, better than the Middle East, what is anybody complaining about. :mad:

If the family had been from Chicago, the same point would have been just as well made - and they wouldn't have needed to be black for it to work. It's just about the view we have of places, and irony that journalists like to use to make their headlines more memorable. If you want to use that to denigrate the family themselves, the victims in all this, you want to take a hard look at yourself.

(We obviously don't "deal" with these scum very well do we? Going by his assault rate)

09-10-2016 07:32AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Like I said in my first post...adios...we deal with these scum all the time if they can't deal with it then fcuk off...this **** happens here we all deal with it and it's a damn sight better than the middle east.

Could you please set out how you require them to act after their 16 year old son was beaten unconscious?

At least set out your expectations, as you clearly think they have not met them. How should they deal with it, in your opinion?

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 07:44AM

volchitsa wrote: »

Oh well that's grand then, better than the Middle East, what is anybody complaining about. :mad:

If the family had been from Chicago, the same point would have been just as well made - and they wouldn't have needed to be black for it to work. It's just about the view we have of places, and irony that journalists like to use to make their headlines more memorable. If you want to use that to denigrate the family themselves, the victims in all this, you want to take a hard look at yourself.

(We obviously don't "deal" with these scum very well do we? Going by his assault rate)

We as in the general population,everyday we deal with problems in our own country,if people from other parts of the world come here whether it's from war torn Syria or Chicago it doesn't matter we all deal with what happens here as best we can,nobody gets special treatment ...if someone says they are better off where they came from then go fcuking back stop giving out about our country....its far from perfect but we are all here and we gotta sort out what's wrong and that includes scum that's been let off with assaulting people left right and centre..Why is nobody kicking up a fuss about the Irish lad who need his face reconstructed...that's my issue....where is the equality

gitzy16v · 09-10-2016 07:45AM

I didn't denigrate anybody

09-10-2016 07:50AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

We as in the general population,everyday we deal with problems in our own country...

I can't say I know too many who had kids beaten unconscious. But how do those parents react and how does it differ from the parents of this child? Do Irish parents shrug their shoulders and get on with it?

What is so unacceptable about their reaction? Are we that sensitive that we think the parents of a child beaten up here should be nicer? And they said nothing about us as a people, they specified that they were in fear of gangs hanging around. It seems a perfectly understandable reaction.

The flying mouse · 09-10-2016 07:55AM

After Hours is gone to bits, gone are the days when you could have ripped the poor Syrian guy and Limerick to pieces...

Want back to Syria....Limerick's too violent

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