UK Votes to leave EU

Peregrinus · 07-10-2016 08:00AM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Thanks for the mention

The only alternative from a holiday point of view is to stay at home, since other destinations will most probably involve pound to dollar exchanges which are similarly affected. In any event, holidays in locations outside Europe are significantly more expensive so they would be limited in any case.

There may well be at least a short term slump in British holidays abroad and after that, it's hard to tell, since other factors could also come into play in the medium to long term. Inflation and wage stagnation being one.

Well, an obvious response to the weakening of sterling is shorter/cheaper holidays - you go for less time, you stay in a cheaper resort, whatever. The point is that Spain's earnings from UK tourism will drop. It doesn't really matter whether this is because of fewer Brits taking holidays in Spain, or Brits taking cheaper/shorter holidays in Spain, or some combination of the two.

But it has nothing to do with travel restrictions, or the expectation of travel restrictions. The EU likes to encourage tourism, and won't impose visa requirements on Brits which are more onerous than those they impose on, e.g., US citizens or Canadians or similar. It may well impose no visa requirement at all for UK passport holders entering the EU for short stays.

steddyeddy · 07-10-2016 08:09AM

dasdog wrote: »

Sterling just collapsed on the Asian market open, euro spiked up to 95p and GBP/USD jumped down to $1.10. Anyone trading that the wrong way just got stung badly. Stabilising now and back above $1.20 in a matter of seconds. That is extreme volatility.

It dropped 6% in two minutes.....

solodeogloria · 07-10-2016 08:10AM

beach_walker wrote: »

I know lots of emigrants over here who were talking a big game in the lead up to the vote about how they would definitely leave in the event of a, well, Leave result but f-all actually seem to be following up on this. Mostly when I ask them now, they're a bit more sheepish and talk about what form of Brexit happens etc.

Any UK based posters here looking to move elsewhere?

Good morning!

No I'm not tempted to move anywhere.

Although I voted to remain the Brexit vote must be honoured. I'm confident that this government will deliver a good outcome for Britain. I think a deregulated free market Britain has exciting prospects.

What I am tempted to do is apply for a Permanent Residence card with the Home Office which is available to all EEA citizens after 5 years.

With thanks,
solodeogloria

Pro Hoc Vice · 07-10-2016 08:16AM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Me neither. My new workplace seems ok though. Might look at Germany...

After Rudd many a workplace may change http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-amber-rudds-speech-echoes-mein-kampf/

FrancieBrady · 07-10-2016 08:34AM

Peregrinus wrote: »

Well, an obvious response to the weakening of sterling is shorter/cheaper holidays - you go for less time, you stay in a cheaper resort, whatever. The point is that Spain's earnings from UK tourism will drop. It doesn't really matter whether this is because of fewer Brits taking holidays in Spain, or Brits taking cheaper/shorter holidays in Spain, or some combination of the two.

But it has nothing to do with travel restrictions, or the expectation of travel restrictions. The EU likes to encourage tourism, and won't impose visa requirements on Brits which are more onerous than those they impose on, e.g., US citizens or Canadians or similar. It may well impose no visa requirement at all for UK passport holders entering the EU for short stays.

There will be cheaper holidays for everywhere else, including us here. Win win.

Spain won't hang around crying over spilt milk, they'll just market the spare capacity elsewhere.

In short, the UK leaving will have an effect, no doubt about it, but noting that can't be surmounted by adjustments by others.
The adjustment the UK will have to make to survive or to maintain meanwhile...

josip · 07-10-2016 08:43AM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Thanks for the mention

The only alternative from a holiday point of view is to stay at home, since other destinations will most probably involve pound to dollar exchanges which are similarly affected. In any event, holidays in locations outside Europe are significantly more expensive so they would be limited in any case.

There may well be at least a short term slump in British holidays abroad and after that, it's hard to tell, since other factors could also come into play in the medium to long term. Inflation and wage stagnation being one.

If more British holiday at home, will they become more insular and suspicious of all things foreign?

steddyeddy · 07-10-2016 08:46AM

josip wrote: »

If more British holiday at home, will they become more insular and suspicious of all things foreign?

They already have.

Zubeneschamali · 07-10-2016 09:07AM

josip wrote: »

If more British holiday at home, will they become more insular and suspicious of all things foreign?

Not sure that is even possible.

Risteard81 · 07-10-2016 09:13AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Corbyn should be ashamed of himself for the weak performance he put in.

Why should he illegally campaign hard on behalf of the so-called "EU"? You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting it. The men of 1916 certainly didn't support it.

Risteard81 · 07-10-2016 09:17AM

MrPudding wrote: »

MrP (on the mainland)

This is the Irish mainland.

VinLieger · 07-10-2016 09:17AM

Risteard81 wrote: »

Why should he illegally campaign hard on behalf of the so-called "EU"? You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting it. The men of 1916 certainly didn't support it.

How do you illegally campaign for something? Also its not so called the "EU". That's what its called, you may disagree with it but you look like a fool repeating that phrase cus it means nothing.

As for the last piece of your post....... its just....... I cant even.......

07-10-2016 09:17AM

Risteard81 wrote: »

Why should he illegally campaign hard on behalf of the so-called "EU"? You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting it. The men of 1916 certainly didn't support it.

What is 'so-called' about the Union of European states that is 'so-called' the European Union?

How is campaigning (for either result) illegal?

Given that the European Union wasn't even a thought in a gent's head in 1916, it's unsurprising that they didn't support it. They didn't support nuclear power, or IVF, or Iron Lung Machines, or a whole host of things that are enormously valuable to us. Does that mean we should shun those?

Pro Hoc Vice · 07-10-2016 09:19AM

Risteard81 wrote: »

Why should he illegally campaign hard on behalf of the so-called "EU"? You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting it. The men of 1916 certainly didn't support it.

Sean Lemass applied for Ireland's entry to the EEC, and he was a man of 1916.

R P McMurphy · 07-10-2016 09:24AM

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Sean Lemass applied for Ireland's entry to the EEC, and he was a man of 1916.

Indeed and I shudder to think what Ireland would look like now if the country had not joined the EEC at that time. I imagine it would resemble something from The Road

Risteard81 · 07-10-2016 09:33AM

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Sean Lemass applied for Ireland's entry to the EEC, and he was a man of 1916.

Lemass betrayed the Republic proclaimed at Easter 1916 and helped to usurp the power of Dáil Éireann which delegated it's Governmental Authority to the Army Council in 1938 to hold in trust until such time as the Third Dáil could convene.

Chips Lovell · 07-10-2016 09:36AM

Risteard81 wrote: »

Lemass betrayed the Republic proclaimed at Easter 1916 and helped to usurp the power of Dáil Éireann which delegated it's Governmental Authority to the Army Council in 1938 to hold in trust until such time as the Third Dáil could convene.

I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Zubeneschamali · 07-10-2016 09:41AM

Risteard81 wrote: »

Why should he illegally campaign hard on behalf of the so-called "EU"? You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting it. The men of 1916 certainly didn't support it

...as they did not have time machines.

Chips Lovell · 07-10-2016 09:43AM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

...as they did not have time machines.

They did. Anyone who tells you they didn't has been brainwashed by the man.

Zubeneschamali · 07-10-2016 09:44AM

Risteard81 wrote: »

Lemass betrayed the Republic proclaimed at Easter 1916 and helped to usurp the power of Dáil Éireann which delegated it's Governmental Authority to the Army Council in 1938 to hold in trust until such time as the Third Dáil could convene

to witness Gerry pull Cú Chulain's sword from the stone in the GPO...

Risteard81 · 07-10-2016 09:57AM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

to witness Gerry pull Cú Chulain's sword from the stone in the GPO...

Gerry is a British Agent and the hated Provos are a Loyalist organisation as they use violence against Republicans to support continued English rule.

Chips Lovell · 07-10-2016 09:58AM

Risteard81 wrote: »

Gerry is a British Agent and the hated Provos are a Loyalist organisation as they use violence against Republicans to support continued English rule.

More and more intrigued....

Zubeneschamali · 07-10-2016 10:17AM

Risteard81 wrote: »

Gerry is a British Agent and the hated Provos are a Loyalist organisation as they use violence against Republicans to support continued English rule

...but the bit about the Real Dáil and the sword in the stone at the GPO is all true.

steddyeddy · 07-10-2016 10:18AM

I think the big news this monring is the Pound's fall of 6% in the Asian markets. This will have an effect on inflation ect.

steddyeddy · 07-10-2016 10:28AM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I just started my new job so it's a bit early to be thinking about moving yet. That said, if I can sort something in Germany...

Good luck in the new job! Yea Germany or Switzerland seem good bets for science.

CMOTDibbler · 07-10-2016 10:43AM

Risteard81 wrote: »

Lemass betrayed the Republic proclaimed at Easter 1916 and helped to usurp the power of Dáil Éireann which delegated it's Governmental Authority to the Army Council in 1938 to hold in trust until such time as the Third Dáil could convene.

Where did it all go wrong, I wonder. At what point did we stray from the true revolutionary path into the motorway of imperialism?

Is it too late to return to the crossroads?

steddyeddy · 07-10-2016 10:48AM

I wonder will Boris feel ashamed of what he did to his country as the years go by.

Chips Lovell · 07-10-2016 10:52AM

Steady on, this is BJ we're talking about here.

AllGunsBlazing · 07-10-2016 10:54AM

Boris had little influence. The areas that swung it were predominantly old - school labour and working class. The kind of people who would happily burn the likes of Boris and his eton chums at the stake.

Fratton Fred · 07-10-2016 11:04AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

What percentage of Germany's or France's national income comes from selling cars to Britain. This is a simple question, can you answer this?

Germany's top export destinations are the US, $121bn, France $119bn and the UK, $100bn.

Germany exports around $163bn worth if cars, of which the largest market ($20bn) is to the UK.

These are 2014 figures.

The car industry is Germany's largest exporter and their largest market is the UK, which is why they are voicing their concerns.

https://www.ft.com/content/f6cda050-20bb-11e5-aa5a-398b2169cf79

As one of the largest employers in Germany, with 750,000 people working in that sector, I'd say they have a lot if sway with their government.

CMOTDibbler · 07-10-2016 11:06AM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Boris had little influence. The areas that swung it were predominantly old - school labour and working class. The kind of people who would happily burn the likes of Boris and his eton chums at the stake.

Is that strictly true? Is it not the case that the Labour party is being shunned by its traditional support in favour of the Tories and outliers like UKIP?

UK Votes to leave EU

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