I have changed my views on abortion

brickmauser · 06-10-2016 07:52AM #1

In recent days I have changed my view on abortion. Especially when I saw the protests in Poland.

I now believe women should have the right to choose.

Abortion should be available at anytime during pregnancy for any reason.

Who am I to stop a woman or stand in her way?

I want to apologize to anyone upset with previous thread

Arthur.beaker · 06-10-2016 07:54AM

Can they not currently 'choose' to travel to the UK?

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 06-10-2016 07:57AM

Arthur.beaker wrote: »

Can they not currently 'choose' to travel to the UK?

Why should they have to

PARlance · 06-10-2016 08:01AM

That was some turnaround.

tigger123 · 06-10-2016 08:05AM

Arthur.beaker wrote: »

Can they not currently 'choose' to travel to the UK?

Only if they can afford it. But they shouldn't have to. The whole situation is difficult enough without putting barriers in their way.

06-10-2016 08:09AM

Thread reeks of me me me.

The is a thread about abortion. There are probably loads of them. Why not post this in one of them?

Jen44 · 06-10-2016 08:10AM

Arthur.beaker wrote: »

Can they not currently 'choose' to travel to the UK?

Have you ever had to travel following a medical procedure?? Its not very nice nor something someone should be forced to choose as there is no other option!! No one chooses to go to the uk for an abortion they go because that is the only option available to them

triple nipple · 06-10-2016 08:14AM

Jen44 wrote:

Have you ever had to travel following a murder?? Its not very nice nor something someone should be forced to choose as there is no other option!! one chooses to go to the uk for an abortion they go because that is the only option available to them

There, fixed it for you

Mod-Banned

corner of hells · 06-10-2016 08:17AM

triple nipple wrote: »

There, fixed it for you

The poster who's comment ymadeou changed a sensible contribution to a sensitive and emotive subject thread and that's the best you can come up with .

Try some thought .

The flying mouse · 06-10-2016 08:17AM

triple nipple wrote: »

There, fixed it for you

Time to put feet up and sit back n read with amusement

Jen44 · 06-10-2016 08:19AM

its not worth even getting into it. Good luck!

Sono · 06-10-2016 08:21AM

triple nipple wrote: »

There, fixed it for you

Bad form that

hairyslug · 06-10-2016 08:23AM

During the night I was thinking about this. If a referendum was called tomorrow and the government set out the terms of what the 8th was to be replaced by, let's just say prior to 12 weeks, FFA, mother's health and well-being Would there be many people who would be able to be swayed or have a large majority of the people made up their mind and no shouting or screaming or any other arguments would change it.

VinLieger · 06-10-2016 08:23AM

Im really confused as to whats happening in this thread.

The flying mouse · 06-10-2016 08:31AM

VinLieger wrote: »

Im really confused as to whats happening in this thread.

Op seen some women protests in Poland and changed his/her mind on abortion laws in Ireland.

https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjBrbLN1MXPAhVBvRQKHWSSBrIQqQIIHjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fworld%2F2016%2Foct%2F05%2Fpolish-government-performs-u-turn-on-total-abortion-ban&usg=AFQjCNF7rp81Wl89L-yafe5OCuIiZPI1pQ

Link about Poland protests

LeinsterDub · 06-10-2016 08:34AM

The flying mouse wrote: »

Op seen some women protests in Poland and changed his/her mind on abortion laws in Ireland.

https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjBrbLN1MXPAhVBvRQKHWSSBrIQqQIIHjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fworld%2F2016%2Foct%2F05%2Fpolish-government-performs-u-turn-on-total-abortion-ban&usg=AFQjCNF7rp81Wl89L-yafe5OCuIiZPI1pQ

Link about Poland protests

Actually op has gone from the zygote is a human to abortion at at any stage of the pregnancy in a week

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057653091/1/#post101181129

kneemos · 06-10-2016 08:36AM

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Actually op has gone from the zygote is a human to abortion at at any stage of the pregnancy in a week

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057653091/1/#post101181129

No point protesting if it doesn't change minds.

HS3 · 06-10-2016 08:38AM

Was the other thread not generating enough attention for you?

LeinsterDub · 06-10-2016 08:39AM

kneemos wrote: »

No point protesting if it doesn't change minds.

This conversion on the road to Damascus is the equivalent of a Republican protest changing Ian Paisley into Gerry Adams

KillerShamrock · 06-10-2016 08:40AM

triple nipple wrote: »

There, fixed it for you

Well you have been reported for that.

I hope this thread, poster and op are shut down asap clearly a troll and just posting stuff like above and the op as well.

sullivlo · 06-10-2016 08:43AM

hairyslug wrote: »

During the night I was thinking about this. If a referendum was called tomorrow and the government set out the terms of what the 8th was to be replaced by, let's just say prior to 12 weeks, FFA, mother's health and well-being Would there be many people who would be able to be swayed or have a large majority of the people made up their mind and no shouting or screaming or any other arguments would change it.

Nowhere in the 8th amendment is the word abortion mentioned. The repeal campaign is to repeal the 8th amendment, which gives a foetus the same rights as a woman.

conorhal · 06-10-2016 08:47AM

brickmauser wrote: »

In recent days I have changed my view on abortion. Especially when I saw the protests in Poland.

I now believe women should have the right to choose.

Abortion should be available at anytime during pregnancy for any reason.

Who am I to stop a woman or stand in her way?

I want to apologize to anyone upset with previous thread

So you've gone from a pro life position to believing you should be allowed to kill a child up till the point of birth? Based on pictures from a protest? Wow, that sounds... rational.

conorhal · 06-10-2016 08:49AM

sullivlo wrote: »

Nowhere in the 8th amendment is the word abortion mentioned. The repeal campaign is to repeal the 8th amendment, which gives a foetus the same rights as a woman.

That is as a disingenuous a statement as it gets. The aim of 'repeal the 8th is abortion on demand, and the sickeningly semantic arguments of those pretending otherwise just makes them look shady.

Fighting Tao · 06-10-2016 08:57AM

conorhal wrote: »

That is as a disingenuous a statement as it gets. The aim of 'repeal the 8th is abortion on demand, and the sickeningly semantic arguments of those pretending otherwise just makes them look shady.

Like any group of people there will be a huge range of opinions. The people that want the 8th amendment repealed can't possibly have the exact same opinions and reasons. Generalisations like yours are totally incorrect.

conorhal · 06-10-2016 09:00AM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Like any group of people there will be a huge range of opinions. The people that want the 8th amendment repealed can't possibly have the exact same opinions and reasons. Generalisations like yours are totally incorrect.

The law of lowest common denominator and the base selfish nature of the society we have built would suggest otherwise.

iLikeWaffles · 06-10-2016 09:07AM

What's wrong the 8th thread calm now?

Arthur.beaker · 06-10-2016 09:13AM

KillerShamrock wrote: »

Well you have been reported for that.

I hope this thread, poster and op are shut down asap clearly a troll and just posting stuff like above and the op as well.

Reported for in thread moderation.

sullivlo · 06-10-2016 09:14AM

conorhal wrote: »

That is as a disingenuous a statement as it gets. The aim of 'repeal the 8th is abortion on demand, and the sickeningly semantic arguments of those pretending otherwise just makes them look shady.

:rolleyes:

The aim of repeal the 8th is to allow women have more of a right to life than an unborn.

Fundamentally, I disagree with abortion on demand (as you kindly put it). However what right do I have to let my views dictate how others should live their lives? Having personally known several people who have travelled to the UK for various reasons, including FFA, risk to the mothers life and one incident of incest rape, it is an absolute disgrace that these women are treated like second class citizens and forced to travel to save their own life or sanity.

Do you really think that a rape victim should be made bring the child of their rapist into the world? Should they be made go through all of that torture of 9 months of pregnancy, however many hours of labour and all of the associated risks of childbirth, just to give birth to a child that they never asked for, a child that was forced upon them by a rapist? Seriously?

Should women be force to travel for a medical procedure?

I had an operation a few years ago on my lady parts. I had some unexpected side effects of the operation and I panicked. I had to travel from the hospital to my home and I was scared. Can you imagine how scary it must be for a woman to experience side effects after a medical procedure, and then be told she has to get on an airplane or a boat?

Rainman16 · 06-10-2016 09:18AM

When is the referendum?

kneemos · 06-10-2016 09:25AM

Rainman16 wrote: »

When is the referendum?

I have a bunker built ready for the announcement.

Ave Sodalis · 06-10-2016 09:33AM

conorhal wrote:

So you've gone from a pro life position to believing you should be allowed to kill a child up till the point of birth? Based on pictures from a protest? Wow, that sounds... rational.

He realised that whilst he was against a repeal of the 8th, people would still agree with him. This way, very few agree with him and he gets a much bigger reaction.

I have changed my views on abortion

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