Why did Gardai destroy possible burial site of Irelands longest missing child?

Going Forward wrote: »

When is the current Garda review of the case, which started in 2011 expected to be concluded, and will any of it's contents be made public?

An example of the confusion surrounding this case:

RTE reports a review WILL be undertaken:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0712/801934-mary-boyle/

While The Examiner reports that one is ongoing and began in 2011 :

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/mary-boyles-sister-to-call-for-garda-chief-to-go-386976.html


Also I wonder was the Mary Boyle case included under grounds of alleged investigative malpractice in the Independent Review Mechanism:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/reviews-into-garda-malpractice-claims-are-pointless-say-victims-378790.html

this confuses me too , they say they there is a Garda review started in 2011 and a cold case team going in soon , there doesn't to me anyway seem to be much difference in either .

And isn't 5 years long enough to conclude a review? Ive said it before and ill say it again I think there is an awful lot of stalling going on in this case knowing that certain individuals will have at the very most a decade or two left in them .. just like how in the UK it seemed to be an open secret about Saville, but they waited until he died until it was uncovered .

Going Forward wrote: »

Appreciate that OB.

Just a thought, but it'll be 40 years in what, 6 months time, I'd kind of like to think that a "breakthrough" is needed by Gardai before that anniversary, for their own credibility.

BTW, I'm not fishing for any information, by anything they've told you or anything here, so never feel any pressure to answer, I just mean to speak in general terms.

But about the review, it can't go on forever, on the face of it the facts known to the gardai are very simple.

Or should I say the facts TOLD to the Gardai are very simple.....a fair difference I suppose.

Further edit! : The three links might be useful on the FB page as they make no mention of Gemma O D involvement.

There will be more too I'd guess, just a matter of digging them out I'd say, useful to demonstrate the highly strange nature of the case.

agreed, tbh if we put out an RTE link we would be accused of being with "them" and I dont know who owns the Irish Examiner but if its anything to do with O Brien we will also be accused of being with them .. Ill try and find a blog that has a full overview in it of the case that doesn't contain references to who we think the suspects are. and use the link to that on ourpage description , with the authors permission !

Going Forward wrote: »

I don't follow?

No one else linking to those articles could be accused by anyone of "being with them", why would you be?

No one can accuse me of it, they can't accuse you either! Don't worry about things like that:)

Agree about a good article though.

Do you read this one?

http://maryboylequestions.blogspot.ie/?m=0

oh ive been accused of it , RTE FF Garda informant the lot haha its water of a ducks back but id rather not give them any info just read that blog there .. thatll do the Job !! Perfect


On other news I spoke to Pearse Doherty SF TD thru the week and he told me of his plans to push thru legislation in the dail that will make it mandatory for a child missing 40 years ( maybe less) to have an inquest carried out,he said he had asked some of Anns reps about this but their reply was negative.. I told him personally that this was a great idea and as my TD i would like to urge him to go for it and I told my cousin Ann about it and it was first she had heard of it so I emailed her solicitor & let him know I would like him to push for it too .

He announced at one of the Q&As tonight that it indeed was going ahead, so another small step hopefully

yet another Statement up today .. Margo has another going up tonight

I've just read Margo O'Donnell's statement on Gemma O'Doherty's Facebook account and she mentions her supposed solo years long campaign and there's a conspicuous lack of any mention of Ann Doherty. Are they cutting her out now?

Not that I want to harp on about Gemma O'Doherty, but I think it's relevant.

Going Forward wrote: »

Now that you mention it, it does look all ME ME ME.

I'd read it already on twitter and that hadn't jumped out....


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct9FUNIWIAEvCGh.jpg:small

My first time of reading ...... and it reads like the writer is trying to attract some much needed attention.

I thought it sad ..... for all the wrong reasons .... as the missing child is not at all what this is about.

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

its the statements made yesterday by Gemma before "Margos" statement on Gemmas facebook which disturb me the most. ill C&P them here below



We've seen today the desperate lengths the Gardai go to to destroy the characters and reputations of decent officers attempting to expose corruption in the force, including collusion between gardai and heroin dealers who destroy communities.
The gardai also go to enormous lengths to try to damage journalists exposing the cover-up of crimes including murder and paedophilia, by getting vulnerable, damaged people to tarnish them as well as using other more sinister means.
The family is often no different to any other institution in society when it comes to protecting itself.
When a family covers up the murder of a relative with the assistance of the Gardai, vulnerable members of that family can often be used to damage those who are exposing the truth.
They do this for many reasons - because they have no conscience, because they fear the gardai or because they have something to hide which the gardai are using against them.
Sometimes people like this give an impression publicly they want justice for their murdered relative while at the same time they are privately consorting with the enemy and engaging in a vindictive campaign against those exposing the truth.
As a journalist, my overriding objective in exposing corruption in the state and the gardai is on behalf of the public interest. I do not do it on behalf of any one individual but because it is my job to hold power to account, to try to ensure that those in power serve the public and not themselves.
I will continue to do this, and hope that you will keep your eyes open to those who appear to care about democracy, justice and truth when in fact they are only engaging in a charade.

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Margo O'Donnell will issue a statement later today about the Mary Boyle case and her 39-year journey for justice, which she has travelled alone. She will also urge the public to be wary of an element which has recently become involved in the justice campaign and has attempted to damage it.



the second statement is a complete contradiction of what was actually eventually said

This is Aimed at me and my sister as we are the only ones publicly campaigning for Justice for Mary.

We didn't waste our energy on a reply.

oranbhoy67 wrote:

This is Aimed at me and my sister as we are the only ones publicly campaigning for Justice for Mary.

I didn't get that impression from reading it .

you might be both right .. it doesn't help when she is so vague

all I know is that I received an apology for it - to use one of Gemma's terms- from someone very close to her .. before I even read it so they certainly took it as a slight on me.. and that was also the reason Margo's actual statement was a lot different in nature from the one she actually promised

join the dots

Sometimes people like this give an impression publicly they want justice for their murdered relative while at the same time they are privately consorting with the enemy and engaging in a vindictive campaign against those exposing the truth.
As a journalist, my overriding objective in exposing corruption in the state and the gardai is on behalf of the public interest. I do not do it on behalf of any one individual but because it is my job to hold power to account, to try to ensure that those in power serve the public and not themselves.
I will continue to do this, and hope that you will keep your eyes open to those who appear to care about democracy, justice and truth when in fact they are only engaging in a charade.
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Margo O'Donnell will issue a statement later today about the Mary Boyle case and her 39-year journey for justice, which she has travelled alone. She will also urge the public to be wary of an element which has recently become involved in the justice campaign and has attempted to damage it.

I think it's pretty clear who she's referring to here, and looking at comments on her Facebook (which she has now deleted) some people stated explicitly that they understood it to refer to the Justice for Mary Boyle campaign, others queried why it was necessary to feud, etc.

mikeymouse wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/people/Gemma-ODoherty/100011070254271#_=_
'New information from Birmingham'
and Gemma's doc. to be screened there next week.
Call me an old skeptic, but........

Mary was born in Birmingham, making her a British citizen so today I have spent the day ringing the UK embassy & Scotland yard etc to see will they come into the investigation the same way they have with Ben Needham and Madeline McCann .. so far what I have been told is someone will have to go in person to an English Police station to file a report .

Deleted User wrote: »

Are the rest of the family OK with that?

I think it's a good idea, personally speaking.

the ones that are fighting for justice yeah .. Im pretty sure Gemma has went down this route already, a little extra pressure from me won't do any harm, if all it achieves is shaming this state then Id be happy enough with that, cos they should be shamed