Apalling dress sense/style of the average Irish male

JamboMac · 05-10-2016 10:09PM

What did i just waist 5 minutes reading?

py2006 · 05-10-2016 10:10PM

I find straight cut jeans uncomfortable and that is IF I can get a pair that would fit around my Arnie calves.

Bootcut is definitely the most comfortable especially if your legs are a little on the short side as they don't hike up like straight cut.

Don't even get me started on the skinny jeans thing.

Eric Cartman · 05-10-2016 10:17PM

Letree wrote: »

The worst look is the big bootcut jeans with dress shoes and the shirt tucked in. I don't see it as much anymore but i used to see it a lot among men in their 30's and 40's.

Men don't need alot to be fashionable but the cut of their clothing makes a big difference.

agh its a comfortable look , works well for dinner or going down the pub.

Lemming · 05-10-2016 10:17PM

All hail the concept of the rock bar; jeans (boot cut), boots, and a t-shirt are all you need.

So, OP ... what is the definitive definition of fashion please? Your answer can be no more than 30 words and it must be be all-encompassing, spanning every subculture, age group, and geographical region. Otherwise, get over yourself and your mistaken belief that you know better than everyone else about fashion and move on .... Plenty more of us just don't g1ve a sh1t what you think.

Letree · 05-10-2016 10:24PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

agh its a comfortable look , works well for dinner or going down the pub.

So long as the shoes aren't lost under them

idnkph · 05-10-2016 10:37PM

Looks like the OP has some self esteem issues.
People who focus on other people's looks and fashion usually look down on others to try to make themselves feel better about themselves but it will never work OP.
You need to focus on yourself and what makes YOU feel good. Stop buying into what the media and magazines say how you should look and accept yourself for how you look and what really makes you happy unsuperficially.

05-10-2016 10:52PM

Anyone else think there's something .. self-indulgent .. about wearing skinny tracksuit bottoms as a man? When I see groups of young lads with big mops of hair, tight at the sides, in gaa zip-up tops, part of me wants to clip them around the head for being self-indulgent but another part of me is jealous that such form-fitting fashion wasn't acceptable when I was their age 7 or 8 years ago.

My instinctual reaction to looking at mens fashions nowadays is that they are doing all the most self-induglent things all at the same time. Like when you think back to/ look back at the fashions/ norms of the early/mid 2000s, things are very different:

- Super-preened haircuts: getting their haircut very regularly, fades, being very specific with their cut, making sure everyone is certain they aren't going bald by having the hair at the top very heavy and the sides really short. Lads whose older brothers invariably had a manly (if intimidating at the time) one-at-the-side with the top gelled down in 2005, now go around with self-induglent boyband haircuts that their older brothers would have looked in disgust at.

- Extremely form-hugging clothes: tight t-shirts, slim-fit shirts, skinny tracksuit bottoms, skinny jeans

- men who in the fairly recent past wouldn't have had any interest in going to the gym now walk around with very visbily developed muscles, particularly their arm muscles. Men caring a lot more about nutrition, not drinking too much, giving up smoking, being more concerned about themselves ("trying to be a better man" as that loathsome phrase seen on the likes of joe.ie goes). On that note, I often wonder why people talk about there being an obesity crisis - at least among 20-somethings, my observation is that most people are in good shape.

- otherwise grooming themselves - shaving chests, deliberately leaving a few days of stubble, carving out manicured beards in an attempt to maximise how attractive they can look, plucking eyebrows (when did you last see a man with a unibrow, something which even in the mid 2000s was not unusual) ...

The last 10 years has seen massive social change and I for one miss the old days.

lazybones32 · 05-10-2016 10:52PM

Musketeer4 wrote: »

I have just over the past couple of months been noticing that its actually relaticly rare in Ireland to see a guy walking down the street who is in good shape and dressed smartly and has a good overall appearance.

What is far more common is guys who would seem to not give a crap and are going around in ill fitting unflattering clothing that almost loos thrown together. I'm talking about what would typically be known as "dad jeans" with XL sized shirts and ugly sweaters that are not nice.

Another poster the other day was on about how difficult it is to get shirts that fit well and that in the vast majority of mainstream outlets, even the slim fit tailored shirts are actually of a "forgiving" fit and can accomodate a pot belly.

Does anyone else think the average Irish man is just does not cut it in the style deparment?

Did you ever think that the men you accuse of dressing in "dad" clothes are in fact dads? They might have priorities beyond impressing randomers who they pass on the street.

I've no interest in fashion and even trying on clothes is a chore to me but I like having new stuff.
I walk upright with decent posture and I have a clean face, teeth, ears and hair when I'm out. Beyond that, I'm not too pushed. I don't neglect my appearance but I don't spend too much time on it either and I think the preoccupation with fashion just isn't part of the male Irish psyche.

MeatTwoVeg · 05-10-2016 10:57PM

Flint Fredstone wrote:

Outside of work, I'll wear a tracksuit bottom and sporty tshirt. That's what I like and I couldn't give a flying fanny what anyone else is wearing. In fact, I would find it weird that somebody else would care what I was wearing tbh.

Do you not like to walk down a street with nice architecture?
Or stroll through a countryside with beautiful scenery?

Of course it matters what people are wearing when you're out and about.

I'm sorry, but I don't want to live in a world where every second person is dressed in a tracksuit and "sporty T-shirt"
There's really no excuse for it unless you're engaged in some sort of sporting endeavor at that moment or are morbidly obese.

Make an effort to make the world more esthetically pleasing for your fellow citizen and stop being so selfish.

JamboMac · 05-10-2016 11:02PM

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

Do you not like to walk down a street with nice architecture?
Or stroll through a countryside with beautiful scenery?

Of course it matters what people are wearing when you're out and about.

I'm sorry, but I don't want to live in a world where every second person is dressed in a tracksuit and "sporty T-shirt"
There's really no excuse for it unless you're engaged in some sort of sporting endeavor at that moment or are morbidly obese.

Make an effort to make the world more esthetically pleasing for your fellow citizen and stop being so selfish.

But who are you to define what is aesthetically pleasing, if i don't like the sound your voice on a bus do i have the right to tell you to stop talking.

Flint Fredstone · 05-10-2016 11:11PM

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

Do you not like to walk down a street with nice architecture?
Or stroll through a countryside with beautiful scenery?

Of course it matters what people are wearing when you're out and about.

I'm sorry, but I don't want to live in a world where every second person is dressed in a tracksuit and "sporty T-shirt"
There's really no excuse for it unless you're engaged in some sort of sporting endeavor at that moment or are morbidly obese.

Make an effort to make the world more esthetically pleasing for your fellow citizen and stop being so selfish.

See here's the thing... I don't give a sh*t what sort of world you want to live in.

lazybones32 · 05-10-2016 11:14PM

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

See here's the thing... I don't give a sh*t what sort of world you want to live in.

Would thank that post twice if I could.

Irish_rat · 05-10-2016 11:19PM

I don't own a tracksuit, if I want to run I'll throw on a pair of shorts. I think I own one hoodie which I rarely wear.

Jumpers, long sleeved shirts, jeans and trousers.

Jackets I love a mac in winter. Colombia have some good lightweight stuff for evening walks etc.

Formal wear a few good shirts, suits and shoes.

Generally once you keep to a plain well fit wear then you can't go wrong. The worst thing is having dirty baggy torn jeans, ugh.

MeatTwoVeg · 05-10-2016 11:20PM

Flint Fredstone wrote:

See here's the thing... I don't give a sh*t what sort of world you want to live in.

Of that, I have no doubt.

And please, I'm not trying to convince you to change if you've already gone 'full tracksuit'.

Let's just hope that there's more people with a sense of a social contract, than those who "don't give a **** ".

Or God help us all.....

JamboMac · 05-10-2016 11:24PM

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

Of that, I have no doubt.

And please, I'm not trying to convince you to change if you've already gone 'full tracksuit'.

Let's just hope that there's more people with a sense of a social contract, than those who "don't give a **** ".

Or God help us all.....

Social contract?:rolleyes:

My social contract is not judging people by how they dress or talk but about the stupid things they type on forums.

longshanks · 05-10-2016 11:27PM

riffmongous wrote: »

Horses for courses imo, even a tracksuit can be 'fashionable' in the right district or company.

At the running track in the company of athletes?

me_right_one · 06-10-2016 12:04AM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

It's a very countryboyish style.... But to those who appreciate fashion, you are labelled as someone who doesn't have good dress sense.

Thats what YOU think.

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

Of that, I have no doubt.

Let's just hope that there's more people with a sense of a social contract, than those who "don't give a **** ".

Says the man who wont flash other drivers when there's a checkpoint up ahead!

J Mysterio · 06-10-2016 12:07AM

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

Do you not like to walk down a street with nice architecture?
Or stroll through a countryside with beautiful scenery?

Of course it matters what people are wearing when you're out and about.

I'm sorry, but I don't want to live in a world where every second person is dressed in a tracksuit and "sporty T-shirt"
There's really no excuse for it unless you're engaged in some sort of sporting endeavor at that moment or are morbidly obese.

Make an effort to make the world more esthetically pleasing for your fellow citizen and stop being so selfish.

Haha

ongarboy · 06-10-2016 12:46AM

I would have agreed with the OP up to a few years ago but I do believe and see many young guys dressing far better nowadays then the previous generations. As someone posted above, they are far more into their body physique and regular gym goers. Hair styles are far more elaborate and trendy. The clothes worn by many but not all younger men are definitely more form fitting. Like it or not, skinny jeans have gone mainstream now that Penneys sell them. Even the much criticised tracksuits are worn in a more stylish skinny style that doesn't look like the manky gray trackies that many used to and some still wear.

Yes, the stats say more people are overweight and obese but I think we're moving towards the California culture of extremes (people fall into the body perfect or obese categories and less and less guys are just average). The problem is fashion is for the slim and the majority overweight brigade feel alienated (or I'm sure in many cases don't give a s**t) because they can't get sizes or wouldn't look great in the slimmer cuts.

I was in Quinns pub in Drumcondra before All Ireland semi last month which was packed with GAA supporters and I was surprised at the amount of younger guys wearing skinny jeans and uber trendy hair cuts along with their Dublin/Kerry jerseys (which many wore fitted to define their toned torsos). It didn't remind me of the typical GAA attire I'd have usually expected of fans up for the match.

I think the 90s/grunge/baggy everything generation are now in their late 30s and 40s so a significant cohort of them generally will continue wearing the same styles and fits as they wore back then (although wearing combat trousers in 2016 is a mortal sin!:D).

The under 35 generation is definitely more fashion conscious than any previous generation before it and I imagine they'll be more likely to maintain that interest as they get older. So no, i don't think the average young Irish male's dress standards are appalling.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-10-2016 12:57AM

I'm sorry, but I don't want to live in a world where every second person is dressed in a tracksuit and "sporty T-shirt"
There's really no excuse for it unless you're engaged in some sort of sporting endeavor at that moment or are morbidly obese.

.... and yet here you are...

Make an effort to make the world more esthetically pleasing for your fellow citizen and stop being so selfish.

I make this effort be trying to be a decent human being and be being a nice and helpful person to everone I meet, rather than by judging them and being a condescending twat full of my own self-importsnce.

Pawwed Rig · 06-10-2016 03:53AM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

rather than by judging them and being a condescending twat full of my own self-importsnce.

Mod note - Come on PCB, you're better than that.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-10-2016 06:34AM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Mod note - Come on PCB, you're better than that.

Yeah, I know, wasn't meant as being personal, though - more of a general comment to anyone with the attitude rather than the poster specifically.

CruelCoin · 06-10-2016 07:19AM

trishasaffron wrote: »

Beauty, elegance and style is something that has been and is highly valued in all civilisations for thousands of years - whether that is women, men, art, music, living spaces....whatever.

I'm a bit saddened by the the responses here as I thought younger Irish men had come to understand this!

Back in the "good old days" there was a pretty strong culture of "conform or die"

Being nicely liberated, i can wear what i like now without fear of being culled.

CruelCoin · 06-10-2016 07:21AM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

I do find clothing sizes in general to be really poor. Why can't shirts and tops have a body length size like neck size, waist size, etc. That is why so many people end up with poor wearing clothes.

This is why i buy my shirts off amazon, etc. You get the american sizes which tend to be taller cut. Irish cut stops at the waistline and assumes you'll be doing no movement whatsoever.

CruelCoin · 06-10-2016 07:28AM

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

Let's just hope that there's more people with a sense of a social contract, than those who "don't give a **** ".

Social contract?

In what possible way am i beholden to you or the rest of society in what i wear?

I'll wear sandals with socks in winter, and screw you if you don't like it madam!

brickmauser · 06-10-2016 08:19AM

A list of clothing items EVERY man should have:

Black leather shoes.
Brown leather shoes.
Dark blue and light blue Levi's.
Khaki slacks.
Combat trousers.
Chinos.
A white T-shirt.
A black T-shirt.
A white long sleeve shirt.
A black long sleeve shirt.
A short sleeve white shirt.
A short sleeve black shirt.
A Hawaiian shirt.
A green bomber jacket.
A black pea coat.
A tan trench coat.
A leather jacket
A tweed sports jacket.
A three piece suit
A tweed flat cap
A trilby
Cufflinks
A real leather belt with a classic square buckle.
Black leather kid gloves
Black socks
White socks

A man should always tuck his shirt or T-shirt into his pants never ever wear tracksuit bottoms and never ever wear sandals or flip flops or cargo shorts.

End of.

py2006 · 06-10-2016 08:32AM

brickmauser wrote: »

Black leather shoes.
Brown leather shoes.
Dark blue and light blue Levi's.
Khaki slacks.
Combat trousers.
Chinos.
A white T-shirt.
A black T-shirt.
A white long sleeve shirt.
A black long sleeve shirt.
A short sleeve white shirt.
A short sleeve black shirt
A Hawaiian shirt.
A green bomber jacket. nooooooooooooo
A black pea coat.
A tan trench coat.
A leather jacket
A tweed sports jacket.
A three piece suit
A tweed flat cap
A trilby
Cufflinks
A real leather belt with a classic square buckle.
Black leather kid gloves
Black socks
White socks noooooooooooooooo

there you go

Stealthfins · 06-10-2016 09:05AM

During the 90's I was an intrepid clubber and into the mid 00's

Limerick was at the forefront of fashion and trends during the 90's the imported clothes and white label 12"s were coming in from Shannon Airport.

So Todd's aka BT in Limerick had everything first as well as the other clothes shops.

Loved nice clothes and going from Sir Henry's in Cork one weekend to the hacienda in Manchester another weekend,Docks in Limerick and Queens in Ennis.
Back then the fashion was more baggy and streetwise.

Now it's gone almost gentry and country looking,which is smart looking.

The only thing is in my day you were getting more denim for your money,you'd fit 3 pairs of modern skinny jeans into a pair of Joe bloggs or Levi's

I liked the boot cut cords they were nice.

The next big thing will be tweed I'm telling ye ðŸ˜

CruelCoin · 06-10-2016 09:17AM

brickmauser wrote: »

A list of clothing items EVERY man should have:

Black leather shoes.
Khaki slacks.
Combat trousers.
A black T-shirt.
A black long sleeve shirt.
A short sleeve black shirt.
A Hawaiian shirt.
Cufflinks
A real leather belt with a classic square buckle.
Black socks

A man should always tuck his shirt or T-shirt into his pants

Incorrect, not comfortable.

never ever wear tracksuit bottoms

I agree

and never ever wear sandals or flip flops or cargo shorts.

Incorrect, sandals are all i wear.

End of.

Can i ask what in the hell the gloves are for?

It's Ireland, not fugging siberia.

Stealthfins · 06-10-2016 09:20AM

CruelCoin wrote:

Can i ask what in the hell the gloves are for?

CruelCoin wrote:

It's Ireland, not fugging siberia.

Driving gloves lol

Apalling dress sense/style of the average Irish male

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