Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

Needles73 · 02-10-2016 03:59PM

Fbjm wrote: »

I'm a Dub supporter through and through, been going to matches since 2001. I used to think it was impossible too. Don't say that. If it were you lot against any other county I'd be screaming for yiz pal, ye will have your day in the sun yet.

.......since 2001, you really have no idea what following Mayo is like for a long long time.....but that's a nice post and appreciated all the same

Crybabygeeks · 02-10-2016 04:06PM

Robeman wrote: »

A long time ago there were lots of rumours flying around about Charlie Haughey and his money and mistress which lots of innocent people said were not true and asked those spreading the rumours to prove it.

Year later the truth all came out. Unfortunately it was too late the damage had been done.

When people do wrong they seldom admit to it in public, when people conspire to do wrong they seldom provide the evidence.

There is nothing wrong with self belief or even arrogence if you subsequently deliver. Dublin have every right to be arrogent but they don't seem to be, ditto the great Kerry team with 8 All Irelands.

Blaming Connolly \ Holmes last year for defeat was dishonourable as can be seen from result this year.

Will any of the players apologise to Connolly \ Holmes I expect not but I suspect that deep down many now accept that they did wrong.

My advice to you is pretty simple. Like everyone else, acknowledge that the ConnElly / Holmes debacle was ugly but move on. If you can't do that, and have issues with these players and management , stop supporting them and put your money, time and effort into something you find more rewarding.

TCDStudent1 · 02-10-2016 04:13PM

One thing I would wonder about the Mayo camp is how the rumour about Hennelly starting got out. I read about it here yesterday as one poster said that everybody on the train up was talking about it and I got messages from friends about it too.

Contrast that to the Dublin camp - I didnt hear anything about the changes to the Dublin team until I heard them on TV.

It seems strange that this news leaked from the camp and if I was Rochford, I would be curious to know why or how it was leaked. Surely Mayo would have wanted to keep this quiet until just before throw-in.

Fbjm · 02-10-2016 04:27PM

Needles73 wrote: »

.......since 2001, you really have no idea what following Mayo is like for a long long time.....but that's a nice post and appreciated all the same

I'm 24 pal, I only got really into the sport at the age of nine. A decade of losing still sucks you have to admit, but okay it's not as bad as multiple decades fair enough.

gigantic09 · 02-10-2016 04:42PM

Fbjm wrote: »

I'm 24 pal, I only got really into the sport at the age of nine. A decade of losing still sucks you have to admit, but okay it's not as bad as multiple decades fair enough.

That reminds me of a vox pop on radio 1 the evening before the drawn game.A lad said he'd love to see mayo win as he had never seen us win an all-Ireland in his lifetime( he was 6).It's all relative I suppose :-).

Robson99 · 02-10-2016 04:55PM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

One thing I would wonder about the Mayo camp is how the rumour about Hennelly starting got out. I read about it here yesterday as one poster said that everybody on the train up was talking about it and I got messages from friends about it too.

Contrast that to the Dublin camp - I didnt hear anything about the changes to the Dublin team until I heard them on TV.

It seems strange that this news leaked from the camp and if I was Rochford, I would be curious to know why or how it was leaked. Surely Mayo would have wanted to keep this quiet until just before throw-in.

Very good point. I think it really shows the professionalism and unity of the Dublin camp
Rochford needs to get to the bottom of that.
Feel really sorry for Hennelly. He will get a lot of the criticism but Keegan was stupid to pull Connolly down [he done it in the drawn game and got away with it]
Also O Connors free at the end should have been routine for a top inter county free taker but he bottled it. Its easier blame Hennelly though

Dyr · 02-10-2016 04:56PM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

It seems strange that this news leaked from the camp and if I was Rochford, I would be curious to know why or how it was leaked. Surely Mayo would have wanted to keep this quiet until just before throw-in.

Don't think its a coincidence that a team who get to hire and fire managers is also a team that leaks that sort of thing

Robson99 · 02-10-2016 04:57PM

km79 wrote: »

Looking to next year .........we bed to go through the front door
Semi draw is Connaught Munster and ulster Leinster
Tyrone and Dublin are the 2 big threats IMO so hopefully they win through to play in their own side of draw

Ye would want to win Connacht first

km79 · 02-10-2016 04:58PM

Robson99 wrote: »

Ye would want to win Connacht first

We need to go through front door i said
That implies we need to win Connacht !

lab man · 02-10-2016 05:23PM

Clare man here ,gutted for ye

Miccoli · 02-10-2016 06:15PM

I think a clear out is needed in the winter especially in the forwards.The majority of them are not good enough and have a losing mentality at this stage.

Robeman · 02-10-2016 06:16PM

Crybabygeeks wrote: »

My advice to you is pretty simple. Like everyone else, acknowledge that the ConnElly / Holmes debacle was ugly but move on. If you can't do that, and have issues with these players and management , stop supporting them and put your money, time and effort into something you find more rewarding.

Why should I just move on. The "egos" do not have a god given right to the jersey, to pick the management, to dictate terms to the Mayo County Board.

The Mayo team belongs to the people of Mayo not a bunch of selvserving individuals.

If they had won yesterday they would have got to own the Mayo team for next 10 years. They lost so they should be removed from the panel for keeps in the same way they removed the managers last year. What goes around comes around.

SomethingElse · 02-10-2016 06:20PM

Robeman wrote: »

Why should I just move on. The "egos" do not have a god given right to the jersey, to pick the management, to dictate terms to the Mayo County Board.

The Mayo team belongs to the people of Mayo not a bunch of selvserving individuals.

If they had won yesterday they would have got to own the Mayo team for next 10 years. They lost so they should be removed from the panel for keeps in the same way they removed the managers last year. What goes around comes around.

Go Holme Pat.

Robeman · 02-10-2016 06:23PM

Does anyone know where one can see a copy of letter written by Mayo players to county board last year. I have searched internet and cannot find a copy. It would be interesting to read that letter in the light of what happened this year and particularly yesterday.

If anybody has a copy or knows of where it can be found on the internet can they post it.

MaroonAndGreen · 02-10-2016 06:31PM

Robeman wrote:

Does anyone know where one can see a copy of letter written by Mayo players to county board last year. I have searched internet and cannot find a copy. It would be interesting to read that letter in the light of what happened this year and particularly yesterday.

Your up there with one of the most frustrating posters ever to get an account on boards.... just give up with the ring talk about infighting and county board and managers and players ruling team selection.... honest to god that shiiite is ruining this thread on some good posters

Amprodude · 02-10-2016 06:34PM

There will,be a film made on Mayo football when they win the All Ireland. I think it will happen and i think Mayo are not far away from the holy grail. Time is a great healer and they will be back.

Miccoli · 02-10-2016 06:40PM

Amprodude wrote: »

There will,be a film made on Mayo football when they win the All Ireland. I think it will happen and i think Mayo are not far away from the holy grail. Time is a great healer and they will be back.

I highly doubt it , If this particular team were going to win it they'd of done it by now.

Robeman · 02-10-2016 06:49PM

Amprodude wrote: »

There will,be a film made on Mayo football when they win the All Ireland. I think it will happen and i think Mayo are not far away from the holy grail. Time is a great healer and they will be back.

There is a good enough story even without the win but given the substance of the recent history it will probably be classified as a political thriller rather than a sporting film.

The Talking Bread · 02-10-2016 06:53PM

Miccoli wrote: »

I highly doubt it , If this particular team were going to win it they'd of done it by now.

not necessarily, they are competing year in, year out with the most fearsome team in decades. They are losing by the minimal margins and well capable of beating them and shoyuld have done the last day and could have done yesterday, was it not for an unprecedented amount of goalkeeping errors and losing Keegan was massive also. The likes of COC is young and they have another good batch of players coming through in the next couple of years.

They have a fierce resilience and the most irrational mentality the way they keep coming back, both in seasons and even in games.
This Dublin team could dominate now but at the end of the day, when they/if they play eachother there will never be much between them and it just takes that bit of sway, the way Dublin got it on the drawn game, to take them over the line.

Scr£w curses, bottlers, not good enough. They are well able and I am sure this batch will.

Green Peter · 02-10-2016 07:00PM

The dubs will be looking for a 3 in a row next year, they'll have jack McCaffrey and Rory O Carroll back, I'm afraid it will be even harder next year!

02-10-2016 07:00PM

Robeman wrote: »

There is a good enough story even without the win but given the substance of the recent history it will probably be classified as a political thriller rather than a sporting film.

If you know something just spit it out, you either do or you don't. If you don't there is no point posting about it anymore.

Davys Fits · 02-10-2016 07:01PM

It will be more difficult for Dublin to win 3 in a row than it will be for mayo to win one next year. Kerry are the only other contenders imo. Mayo will regorup, as they did this year. Keep at it and stop blaming refs and mistakes by players and managers. There will always be mistakes, learn from them and someday it will all come together..

PressRun · 02-10-2016 07:08PM

Bambi wrote: »

Don't think its a coincidence that a team who get to hire and fire managers is also a team that leaks that sort of thing

Very unfair, tbh. This year, more than any other, very little has been leaked out of the camp (nonsense rumours started by people who have personal issues with certain players don't count) and they've looked very tight this year as a team and as mates. But sure, there'll always be people who will use the management heave as a stick to beat the players with despite knowing next to nothing about what went on there.

And anyway, people knew and were talking about Andrews coming in for Dublin a while before throw in too.

The Talking Bread · 02-10-2016 07:15PM

Green Peter wrote: »

The dubs will be looking for a 3 in a row next year, they'll have jack McCaffrey and Rory O Carroll back, I'm afraid it will be even harder next year!

Of course they will be looking for 3 in a row! And then 4 and then 5! That doesn't mean that it will be anymore difficult next year for any other counties necessarily. Re McCaffery and O Carroll a season out of the game is not necessarily a good thing. The "coming back fresh" aspect can be over emphasised at times.

Miccoli · 02-10-2016 07:16PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

not necessarily, they are competing year in, year out with the most fearsome team in decades. They are losing by the minimal margins and well capable of beating them and shoyuld have done the last day and could have done yesterday, was it not for an unprecedented amount of goalkeeping errors and losing Keegan was massive also. The likes of COC is young and they have another good batch of players coming through in the next couple of years.

They have a fierce resilience and the most irrational mentality the way they keep coming back, both in seasons and even in games.
This Dublin team could dominate now but at the end of the day, when they/if they play eachother there will never be much between them and it just takes that bit of sway, the way Dublin got it on the drawn game, to take them over the line.

Scr£w curses, bottlers, not good enough. They are well able and I am sure this batch will.

Until they find a marquee forward or 2 and a full back they wont.This team has had any amount of chances to win all irelands but they can't and I wouldnt rely on o'connor improving much either.Surely there has to be better forwards on the under 21 team than some which started yesterday.

The Talking Bread · 02-10-2016 07:38PM

Miccoli wrote: »

Until they find a marquee forward or 2 and a full back they wont.This team has had any amount of chances to win all irelands but they can't and I wouldnt rely on o'connor improving much either.Surely there has to be better forwards on the under 21 team than some which started yesterday.

in fairness they almost won it this w/o both. 1 point over 150 + minutes (Inj Time) And a kick of a ball that went just wide. Some bad luck (not wholly but some all the same) with the own goals, and as I said an unprecedented amount of goalkeeping mistakes in the replay.
I agree, they are missing something special in the forwards. And maybe they will find it. Both O Connors are getting better, year in, year out.. COC is 24, he has plenty of potential to add some more craft and guile to his game.

Dyr · 02-10-2016 07:39PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

not necessarily, they are competing year in, year out with the most fearsome team in decades. They are losing by the minimal margins and well capable of beating them and shoyuld have done the last day and could have done yesterday, was it not for an unprecedented amount of goalkeeping errors and losing Keegan was massive also. The likes of COC is young and they have another good batch of players coming through in the next couple of years.

They have a fierce resilience and the most irrational mentality the way they keep coming back, both in seasons and even in games.
This Dublin team could dominate now but at the end of the day, when they/if they play eachother there will never be much between them and it just takes that bit of sway, the way Dublin got it on the drawn game, to take them over the line.

Scr£w curses, bottlers, not good enough. They are well able and I am sure this batch will.

The gulf between the teams is not a point or two. It's Dublins four All Ireland's in six years and four leagues in a row versus Mayo winning Connaught.

Even with most of the other contenders in the doldrums the last few years, Mayo can't bridge that gap.

Cartman78 · 02-10-2016 07:48PM

Robeman wrote: »

There is a good enough story even without the win but given the substance of the recent history it will probably be classified as a political thriller rather than a sporting film.

Seriously what in the fcuk are you blathering on about?

Today is a day for constructive criticism and informed analysis...not the conspiracy theory drivel that you've been crapping on about all day.

Barlett · 02-10-2016 07:49PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Of course they will be looking for 3 in a row! And then 4 and then 5! That doesn't mean that it will be anymore difficult next year for any other counties necessarily. Re McCaffery and O Carroll a season out of the game is not necessarily a good thing. The "coming back fresh" aspect can be over emphasised at times.

O'Carroll probably won't be back next year, it was lost in the build up to this game. Jack McCaffrey said this a couple of week's ago "My understanding of it is that Rory isn't available for next year, but I'm not 100pc sure. He went away for work. I'm not sure how that side of things will pan out for him," he said.

Barlett · 02-10-2016 07:51PM

Bambi wrote: »

The gulf between the teams is not a point or two. It's Dublins four All Ireland's in six years and four leagues in a row versus Mayo winning Connaught.

Even with most of the other contenders in the doldrums the last few years, Mayo can't bridge that gap.

I think you'll find that every year there are only ever about 2-3 teams with a realistic chance of winning an All-Ireland, that never changes

Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

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