India vs Pakistan near war?

Cheerful Spring · 01-10-2016 02:50PM #1

Both Countries nuclear powers and have fought 3 wars since 1947..

Tensions occurred over a week ago when Pakistan backed militants attacked an Indian army base and killed 18 soldiers. The Indian government this week targeted these militants with a surgical strike inside Pakistan controlled Kashimir. The war talk between two countries is very high. Today both countries are shelling each other across the border.

Pakistan and India fought a war do you think one of them will use the N-bomb?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/01/asia/kashmir-tensions-evacuations/

The_Valeyard · 01-10-2016 02:53PM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Both Countries nuclear powers and have fought 3 wars since 1947..

Tensions occurred over a weeks ago when Pakistan backed militants attacked an Indian army base and killed 18 soldiers. The Indian government this week targeted these militants with a surgical strike inside Pakistan controlled Kashimir. The war talk between two countries is very high. Today both countries are shelling each other across the border.

Pakistan and India fought a war do you think one of them will use the N-bomb?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/01/asia/kashmir-tensions-evacuations/

Both sides have the bomb. Either side uses it, other side launches all theirs. So no, no nukes be used. It's M.A.D.

RobertKK · 01-10-2016 03:31PM

Hillary Clinton needs to give both India and Pakistan a reset button.

Or maybe not, she gave the Russian foreign minister a reset button and not long after, Crimea was annexed.

Both sides will have skirmishes, but that will be it. Each side has too much to lose.

suicide_circus · 01-10-2016 03:33PM

be grand

...And Justice · 01-10-2016 03:37PM

I'd love an Indian and a few popadoms and bit of naan bread right now.
Feck you op.

Parachutes · 01-10-2016 03:56PM

Even a regional nuclear war between Pakistan and India would be enough to cause Nuclear Winter and destroy 25% of the world's food supply. About half a billion people would die.

MadYaker · 01-10-2016 03:59PM

No way will they nuke each other. I doubt it'll even turn into a full blown conflict. Pakistan are an ally of the US and they wouldn't allow it.

Melodeon · 01-10-2016 04:23PM

Things have been a bit... odd... on the Pakistan/India border for quite some time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagah_border_ceremony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-6vyQugw4

jimmy blevins · 01-10-2016 04:25PM

A basket case like Pakistan should never have been allowed nukes while Iran gets sanctions just for attempting to start a nuclear program.

Slydice · 01-10-2016 04:31PM

Wow, none of you joined boards.ie before 2010. :eek: (scribbles new entry into feeling-old journal)

Anyway, I always understood India Pakistan to have been 'near war' or indeed 'either near or at war' since Pakistan first came into existence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_wars_and_conflicts

The nuclear bit came in 1971:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_wars_and_conflicts#Nuclear-arms_race

...And Justice · 01-10-2016 04:34PM

Slydice wrote: »

Wow, none of you joined boards.ie before 2010. :eek: (scribbles new entry into feeling-old journal)

Anyway, I always understood India Pakistan to have been 'near war' or indeed 'either near or at war' since Pakistan first came into existence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_wars_and_conflicts

The nuclear bit came in 1971:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_wars_and_conflicts#Nuclear-arms_race

I feel old ..

Hande hoche! · 01-10-2016 04:37PM

Would imagine if it does escalate, it being closer to the Kargil War. Localised conflict rather than a full blown war.

Winterlong · 01-10-2016 04:46PM

Give the amount of red tape the indian government puts in the way of doing the most basic of things I doubt they will be firing any missiles in our lifetime.

Gatling · 01-10-2016 05:00PM

Fortunately this happens every few years they will take a few potshots at each other and in a few weeks it will be forgotten.

There will be no nukes or end of the world scenarios .

Capt'n Midnight · 02-10-2016 12:56AM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Pakistan and India fought a war do you think one of them will use the N-bomb?

No.

AFAIK neither has a deployable Neutron-Bomb

They have Atomic-Bombs and Boosted Fission weapons

But the clincher is that India probably has a few Hydrogen Bombs and apart from Karachi most major cities in Pakistan are a bit too close to the border for comfort. The corresponding area on the Indian side is the Thar Desert.

Further north it's more symmetrical. But the nuclear option is water. Rivers like the Saraswati have changed their routes in the past. Look at what the Ataturk dam did to water in Iraq.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Waters_Treaty

Junkyard Tom · 02-10-2016 01:12AM

Melodeon wrote: »

Things have been a bit... odd... on the Pakistan/India border for quite some time: YOUTUBE/ON-6vyQugw4

This is just proves that us humans share 99% of our DNA with Chimps.

darkpagandeath · 02-10-2016 01:13AM

Gatling wrote: »

Fortunately this happens every few years they will take a few potshots at each other and in a few weeks it will be forgotten.

There will be no nukes or end of the world scenarios .

That sounds like MSM western propaganda Gat.

darkpagandeath · 02-10-2016 01:14AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

This is just proves that us humans share 99% of our DNA with Chimps.

Junkyard Tom · 02-10-2016 01:20AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmX7K8noikE

So obvious there's a chimp inside that suit pretending to be a human acting like a chimp.

Donald Trump · 02-10-2016 06:09AM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Pakistan and India fought a war do you think one of them will use the N-bomb?

You mean like the bould Gerry

take everything · 02-10-2016 07:38AM

Melodeon wrote: »

Things have been a bit... odd... on the Pakistan/India border for quite some time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagah_border_ceremony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-6vyQugw4

I love that.
Christ the human race is pathetic.

Wanderer78 · 02-10-2016 07:48AM

take everything wrote:

I love that. Christ the human race is pathetic.

Wait till we start setting off nuclear weapons and start causing irreversible environmental damage, oh wait!

pickarooney · 02-10-2016 08:42AM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Both Countries nuclear powers and have fought 3 wars since 1947..

Tensions occurred over a week ago when Pakistan backed militants attacked an Indian army base and killed 18 soldiers. The Indian government this week targeted these militants with a surgical strike inside Pakistan controlled Kashimir. The war talk between two countries is very high. Today both countries are shelling each other across the border.

Pakistan and India fought a war do you think one of them will use the N-bomb?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/01/asia/kashmir-tensions-evacuations/

Whatever about a war I really hope neither of them would stoop to using racist language.

learn_more · 02-10-2016 09:20AM

Bollywood.

The way they pretend to be ....

Ooops, ....

Harvey Normal · 02-10-2016 09:32AM

I wonder how much of that military silliness is derived from Victorian British or European military traditions. I think the trumpet and the military moustache definitely. Not sure about the walks though.

delly · 02-10-2016 09:46AM

In would worry me to see military professionals act in such a way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e_abTfvaqc

Capt'n Midnight · 02-10-2016 11:55AM

Harvey Normal wrote: »

I wonder how much of that military silliness is derived from Victorian British or European military traditions. I think the trumpet and the military moustache definitely. Not sure about the walks though.

The walks too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2ViNJFZC8

see also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Silly_Walk_Gait.jpg

Subcomandante Marcos · 02-10-2016 03:59PM

India is more likely to end up at war, or at least a cold war, with China than Pakistan.

India and China have a very long running dispute in the north east over where the border actually is and the Chinese government's funding and training of communist malitias. There are areas in the mountains which the Indian Government has no real control over.

Gets feck all international attention though.

BoJack Horseman · 02-10-2016 04:10PM

There will be no war....

Pakistan may bluster, but they are unlikely to be shocked over strikes on lawless terrorists coming in from Kashmir.

Besides, both countries are joining the Shanghai cooperation organisation in a few months.
Calmness will prevail.

Subcomandante Marcos · 02-10-2016 04:12PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

There will be no war....

Pakistan may bluster, but they are unlikely to be shocked over strikes on lawless terrorists coming in from Kashmir.

Besides, both countries are joining the Shanghai cooperation organisation in a few months.
Calmness will prevail.

Poor Mongolia all left out of the party in their logo.

Someday the great Khan shall rise again the the horde shall reclaim what is rightfully theirs!

Capt'n Midnight · 02-10-2016 06:11PM

India has a no first strike policy for nukes. But they have a ballistic missile sub on trials, and all the big tests have been done, and a second one on the way.

The last thing Pakistan needs is to loose a real shooting war with India because the first item on the peace treaty will be allowing a couple of dams on the Indus and it's tributaries. Once they are in place India can produce droughts or floods until Pakistan plays ball. Diverting that water into old river valleys would allow greening of part of the Thar Desert, unless they go the whole hog of sending the water eastwards via even older river paths.

India vs Pakistan near war?

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