Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

eyerer · 01-10-2016 11:57PM

Milner has impressed me and tbh I wasn't sure when he signed.
Overall very happy with whats been going on.. Hull could've been a test but that came today and very happy they got the three points. Even since the Houllier days Liverpool teams have often folded when going a goal down

02-10-2016 12:02AM

billymitchell wrote: »

I think he could do a job for us in our current midfield if lallana is out

That would mean Moreno at LB?

OwaynOTT · 02-10-2016 12:31AM

5 unbeaten, can you dig it sucka

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And we bookended the international breaks with wins

~Rebel~ · 02-10-2016 01:05AM

It's funny, Milner has really impressed in every position except the one he was bought for.

Team showed a lot of character today. This was exactly the test we failed only a few weeks ago, great to see they could find a way today. Truth be told, we were actually very good breaking into great positions. Only a few heroic leg stretches, and ever so slightly 'off' passing kept it to the 2. Mane's chance when Milner played the pullback just wrong being a good example of both.

I saw some criticism going to Clyne today, I actually thought he was very good. Lovren struggled a bit, not surprised to hear he pulled something during the game. Matip made one mistake, but it could have been costly.

Still don't really know about Karius...it's obviously going to take him a little time to build a relationship with his teammates. Blaming Achterburg for his performances is nuts though - he's only been there 5 minutes, and half that time has been spent recovering from injury. I don't particularly rate Achterburg, but just throwing all goalkeeping ills at his door is just confirmation-bias stuff.

Would start Mignolet against United I think though. As much for Karius as anything else - that's a game where a mistake would be really crucified and I don't think that'd be great for a GK who's new, doesn't really know his teammates yet, and will be a bit short on confidence. In the past Mig has also reacted quite well to these sorts of situations.

mormank · 02-10-2016 06:26AM

emmetkenny wrote: »

I thought he was excellent as well. Doesn't do anything out of the ordinary but does everything we need him to do.

Tbf for us THAT is out of the ordinary!

mormank · 02-10-2016 06:30AM

GiftofGab wrote: »

Great game....we were thr better team but still lucky to come away with the win. They missed some sitters.

Liverpool are now the only team in the top 10 of the league to concede double figures. We need to work on our defence. Scoring wins you games, defence wins you titles.

This is a myth that has been proven incorrect many times over I'm pretty sure. If it were true wouldn't Tony Pulis have many titles??

martyos121 · 02-10-2016 06:33AM

mormank wrote: »

This is a myth that has been proven incorrect many times over I'm pretty sure. If it were true wouldn't Tony Pulis have many titles??

He does have many titles, but posting any of them here would get me banned.

hadoken13 · 02-10-2016 08:40AM

mormank wrote: »

This is a myth that has been proven incorrect many times over I'm pretty sure. If it were true wouldn't Tony Pulis have many titles??

But Pulis's teams don't score. That's the point he was making. We do need to shore up the defence though. Liverpool have forgotten how to defend set pieces - when the defence coaches review the games after, do they not see what's wrong? Doesn't appear that tactics are changing at all.

02-10-2016 09:41AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

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Still don't really know about Karius...it's obviously going to take him a little time to build a relationship with his teammates. Blaming Achterburg for his performances is nuts though - he's only been there 5 minutes, and half that time has been spent recovering from injury. I don't particularly rate Achterburg, but just throwing all goalkeeping ills at his door is just confirmation-bias stuff.

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Nuts indeed.
Funny how the calls for bringing in a defensive coach aren't made anymore but Ach' already getting stick for Karius being allegedly a tad sh1t so far. Which is harsh in itself as he's under the spotlight and our inability to keep a clean sheet isn't just due to the GK.

To be honest, I doubt many ever saw him play in Germany and the highly rated stuff applied to Moreno, markovic & countless other signings who didn't cut the mustard.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-10-2016 09:42AM

Bit early to be talking about titles, surely?

If yesterday proved anything, it's that this time is still a bit inconcsistant for a title challenge, and I think it'll be a while before even Klopp sorts that out.

02-10-2016 09:43AM

mormank wrote: »

This is a myth that has been proven incorrect many times over I'm pretty sure. If it were true wouldn't Tony Pulis have many titles??

Look at man city and our goals scored & conceded stats over the season and come back to us in May.

02-10-2016 09:50AM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Bit early to be talking about titles, surely?

If yesterday proved anything, it's that this time is still a bit inconcsistant for a title challenge, and I think it'll be a while before even Klopp sorts that out.

Exactly.

If we finish 4th I'll be pleasantly surprised

02-10-2016 09:51AM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Bit early to be talking about titles, surely.

I thought so too.

Top4 finish would be great for this season IMO but many don't agree.

Realistically the good run we're on might just be that.

Kerrigooney · 02-10-2016 10:15AM

Of course it's too early to be talking about titles. Sure City had the league wrapped up at this stage last season...that went well.

You should be aiming to win the title though...fail and you might finish 2nd,3rd or 4th...aim to finish 4th and you might end up finishing 5th,6th or lower.

A lot of the title winning talk is tongue in cheek(it is with me anyway)because it drives opposition fans mad and that's always a good thing right?

TitianGerm · 02-10-2016 10:17AM

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Of course it's too early to be talking about titles. Sure City had the league wrapped up at this stage last season...that went well.

You should be aiming to win the title though...fail and you might finish 2nd,3rd or 4th...aim to finish 4th and you might end up finishing 5th,6th or lower.

A lot of the title winning talk is tongue in cheek(it is with me anyway)because it drives opposition fans mad and that's always a good thing right?

If you aim for fourth you might also end up winning the league

NukaCola · 02-10-2016 10:26AM

Happy Birthday Bobby Firmino!

Harry Palmr · 02-10-2016 10:30AM

Is that why he got his teeth whitened?

So then Spurs v Man City, do we want a home win, draw or away win (obviously with many red cards and a few knocks)

Spurs win would bring them level with City on 18 points and so compress the points spread within the race for the title/Top 4 on the other hand City winning would put them 5 points clear of us and 7 ahead of Spurs who would therefore stay third, obviously a draw damages both a bit and Spurs would stay third.

Okay it's a draw please

02-10-2016 10:31AM

You aim to win everygame..... realistically you won't. Top4 this season would be great.

People respond to views like that with klopp aiming for title and top4 being great is a sentiment of past managers etc etc.

When klopp gets us as close to a title as past managers that theory might hold some water.

02-10-2016 10:40AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Is that why he got his teeth whitened?

So then Spurs v Man City, do we want a home win, draw or away win (obviously with many red cards and a few knocks)

Spurs win would bring them level with City on 18 points and so compress the points spread within the race for the title/Top 4 on the other hand City winning would put them 5 points clear of us and 7 ahead of Spurs who would therefore stay third, obviously a draw damages both a bit and Spurs would stay third.

Okay it's a draw please

Draw please

OwaynOTT · 02-10-2016 10:58AM

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Draw please

With Oddles of long term suspensions on both sides. And is like to see that across the board today.

Kerrigooney · 02-10-2016 11:07AM

emmetkenny wrote: »

If you aim for fourth you might also end up winning the league

You might but it's a bad attitude and not the type of thinking Klopp will be trying to instill in the squad. Aim for the top.

TitianGerm · 02-10-2016 11:20AM

Kerrigooney wrote: »

You might but it's a bad attitude and not the type of thinking Klopp will be trying to instill in the squad. Aim for the top.

I'm sure Leicester didn't set out with the aim to win the league last year.

I get what your saying though. I see a lot more fight in the team since Klopp came in, the heads no longer drop when we go behind.

Kerrigooney · 02-10-2016 11:25AM

emmetkenny wrote: »

I'm sure Leicester didn't set out with the aim to win the league last year.

I get what your saying though. I see a lot more fight in the team since Klopp came in, the heads no longer drop when we go behind.

True enough but I have a feeling that what Leicester did last season is a once in a lifetime thing. Can't see it happening again.

It's great to see the fighting spirit in the squad...we've been a soft touch for way too long.

TitianGerm · 02-10-2016 11:33AM

Kerrigooney wrote: »

True enough but I have a feeling that what Leicester did last season is a once in a lifetime thing. Can't see it happening again.

It's great to see the fighting spirit in the squad...we've been a soft touch for way too long.

I think that fight will do us better this year than whether we aim for 1st or 4th.

Ben Gadot · 02-10-2016 11:39AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Is that why he got his teeth whitened?

So then Spurs v Man City, do we want a home win, draw or away win (obviously with many red cards and a few knocks)

Spurs win would bring them level with City on 18 points and so compress the points spread within the race for the title/Top 4 on the other hand City winning would put them 5 points clear of us and 7 ahead of Spurs who would therefore stay third, obviously a draw damages both a bit and Spurs would stay third.

Okay it's a draw please

Spurs win for me please, could do with City getting rattled.

That's no disrespect to Spurs who I very much respect, it's just more to do with Pep suffering a knock.

larrymiller · 02-10-2016 12:00PM

Clyne missing the England game due to knee injury. Hopefully it's a precaution and will be ok for Utd game

garra · 02-10-2016 12:00PM

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Spurs win for me please, could do with City getting rattled.

That's no disrespect to Spurs who I very much respect, it's just more to do with Pep suffering a knock.

Agreed. He looks so assured already, and some of his players have dramatically turned around their form. Need that bubble to burst before they build freight train momentum.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 02-10-2016 12:03PM

larrymiller wrote: »

Clyne missing the England game due to knee injury. Hopefully it's a precaution and will be ok for Utd game

Good.

No point in him going to that game when he risks being injured by one of his teammates in training when he has no chance of playing the match.

larrymiller · 02-10-2016 12:09PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Good.

No point in him going to that game when he risks being injured by one of his teammates in training when he has no chance of playing the match.

True. And klopp will have all his defenders for 2 weeks if I'm not mistaken.
Btw I'm surprised to see you outside f & f

02-10-2016 12:21PM

larrymiller wrote: »

...... for Utd game

The Utd game is intrigueing.

Of all the top/elite managers Jose is the one most likely to employ park the bus tactics when appropriate, which to be fair it is often the way to go but you'd never see Wenger do it for example.

With DDG in goal they can allow Coutinho for example rifle away from outside the box with the confidence that'd it'd need to be a right good effort to go in.

Their defenders can play ball but I reckon Jose won't mandate them to do so with Firmino snapping at their ankles so they might well play some hoof ball and put our defence under aerial attack and allow us counter to a packed defence.

I'd say Jose will go more Burnley than Swansea for the game.

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