Eir rural FTTH thread

tsue921i8wljb3 · 28-09-2016 06:06PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

FTTH was officially launched on 16th .... I wonder how many premises applied for connection and have been connected since .......

http://www.openeir.ie/news/FTTH_programme_officially_launched/

I don't think they ever publish the actual number of connections. In respone to a recent tweet by Ireland Offline they stated that they have over 30K between urban and rural. Though this number is probably premises passed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/openeir/status/774280396787871744

Falcon L · 28-09-2016 06:52PM

JohnC. wrote: »

Saw an eir van with guys fiddling with a few poles down the road. Some poles have gained the legendary D plate and one got some other kind of marker or something.

Looks like the poly cable has been opened and a pair crimped. Temporary?

lucernarian · 28-09-2016 06:54PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote:

Do you mean the plastic tape? Could be a loose foothold on the pole.

I reckon it may be due to the second 30-pair copper cable on that pole, which has all the external insulation completely removed, along with the steel support cable having separated from some of the sheath (at the pole). In other words, that cable is a crock and also a safety risk if it carries ISDN (voltages)

tsue921i8wljb3 · 28-09-2016 07:02PM

lucernarian wrote: »

I reckon it may be due to the second 30-pair copper cable on that pole, which has all the external insulation completely removed, along with the steel support cable having separated from some of the sheath (at the pole). In other words, that cable is a crock and also a safety risk if it carries ISDN (voltages)

You're most likely right. It was just a guess on my part.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 28-09-2016 07:10PM

I've just realised that the number of premises announced by Openeir for today comes to 679. However in the intro it says 1001 premises. This would leave 322 premises that may have been enabled for FTTH. The total number of premises due to get FTTH in the three areas is 1470.

pegasus1 · 28-09-2016 09:54PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

FTTH was officially launched on 16th .... I wonder how many premises applied for connection and have been connected since .......

http://www.openeir.ie/news/FTTH_programme_officially_launched/

This was **Cough** Last Year **Cough**:rolleyes:

long_b · 28-09-2016 09:57PM

pegasus1 wrote: »

This was **Cough** Last Year **Cough**:rolleyes:

Scarleh

Johnboy1951 · 28-09-2016 10:07PM

pegasus1 wrote: »

This was **Cough** Last Year **Cough**:rolleyes:

Hahahahahahaha ........... :mad:

and I thought it was 'news' I missed on their site

Johnboy1951 · 29-09-2016 06:56PM

Just got a report that FTTH cable is being laid out of Ennis so it seems things are happening around the country.

Ballaghboy and near Doora Church.

oscarBravo · 29-09-2016 07:44PM

I saw fibre on poles outside Newbridge, Co Galway last weekend.

Danny Boy · 29-09-2016 07:53PM

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/news/coming-to-a-town-near-you-eir-to-speed-up-fibre-broadband-rollout-nationwide-35090135.html

Well well

daraghwal · 29-09-2016 08:26PM

Danny Boy wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/news/coming-to-a-town-near-you-eir-to-speed-up-fibre-broadband-rollout-nationwide-35090135.html

Well well

Now that would be impressive. I'll believe it when I see it though! https://twitter.com/openeir/status/781574214881009664

tsue921i8wljb3 · 29-09-2016 08:39PM

Danny Boy wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/news/coming-to-a-town-near-you-eir-to-speed-up-fibre-broadband-rollout-nationwide-35090135.html

Well well

I wonder why they did not publish the numbers in their weekly update. You would imagine that they would be making a bigger deal of the first rural areas to be connected.

long_b · 29-09-2016 08:42PM

Danny Boy wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/news/coming-to-a-town-near-you-eir-to-speed-up-fibre-broadband-rollout-nationwide-35090135.html

Well well

Is the spokesperson one of the yahoos that was at the ploughing?

rob808 · 29-09-2016 09:25PM

daraghwal wrote: »

Now that would be impressive. I'll believe it when I see it though! https://twitter.com/openeir/status/781574214881009664

It seem to good to be true but it is possible if it just fibre passed and not connected.It look like NBP not starting till late 2017 and if Eir passing a good few thousand houses in semi rural areas a month fast.Then they a have a good chance of winning part or all the NBP.

marno21 · 30-09-2016 01:51AM

This doesn't surprise me.

They aren't taking on extra staff for the laugh. They know that in every rural area they enable they have a monopoly. In an era when internet connectivity is becoming more and more essential - they realise they are gaining every rural area as a monopoly. For the rural areas this is brilliant.

Roll on the superfast rollout (and roll on the steamrolling of the pessimists)

yfaykya · 30-09-2016 08:08AM

ED E wrote: »

yfaykya wrote: »

Hey - how would I (if possible!) find out whether FTTH will actually be available on the upside down L shaped road to the left of the exchange (green dot) in the image attached? My house is before the turn on that road and I currently get 24Mb.

Thanks!

That looks like they're skipping the "estate" under current plans. If there's eVDSL at the exchange the last house is 1400m from it and should just about receive 30Mb with vectoring.

TMR1_E01

Fibre Broadband Cabinet is Live

Its live and all sure. No FTTH for you you poor sod, too close.

Just to follow up here. I mailed broadband@dcenr.gov.ie who then asked for permission to query openeir on this. About 6 weeks later openeir replied confirming they intend to vector and that will get me above 30. So no FTTH for me it would seem..

""
You are presently qualifying for speed over 20Mbs, and you are connected directly to the local exchange, this local exchange is on our vectoring roadmap and it is forecasted for completion by end of year.

Once it has been vectored enabled your speeds will increase to 30Mbs +.""

Shyboy · 30-09-2016 08:40AM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Yeah it is ducting. If it is similar to the ducting I have seen elsewhere it will have "Eircom Fibre Optic 20/16" on it. The 20/16 is the outside/inside diameter in mm.

KN were in my village all day yesterday digging and installing this ducting. Took ages in some places as I think they worked hard to clear blockages, etc. So every eir pole has been left with a loop of this black ducting sticking out of the ground next to it.

So, what is the next stage? Does another team come out and push fibre through this ducting? Our area is down for FTTH from Winter 2016.

plodder · 30-09-2016 08:43AM

http://www.openeir.ie/ruralfibre/

I hadn't noticed that page before. There are some interesting things on it, like they intend to put in 600km of overhead/aerial fibre per month. Which sounds like a lot, but I guess once you have the right number of crews it should be achievable because overhead cabling, of already prepared lines is predictable and unlikely to hit unforeseable problems,

long_b · 30-09-2016 09:00AM

Shyboy wrote: »

KN were in my village all day yesterday digging and installing this ducting. Took ages in some places as I think they worked hard to clear blockages, etc. So every eir pole has been left with a loop of this black ducting sticking out of the ground next to it.

So, what is the next stage? Does another team come out and push fibre through this ducting? Our area is down for FTTH from Winter 2016.

Where's this if you don't mind us asking?

Shyboy · 30-09-2016 09:34AM

long_b wrote: »

Where's this if you don't mind us asking?

It is Turloughmore, County Galway.

ThisRegard · 30-09-2016 11:01AM

yfaykya wrote: »

Just to follow up here. I mailed broadband@dcenr.gov.ie who then asked for permission to query openeir on this. About 6 weeks later openeir replied confirming they intend to vector and that will get me above 30. So no FTTH for me it would seem..

""
You are presently qualifying for speed over 20Mbs, and you are connected directly to the local exchange, this local exchange is on our vectoring roadmap and it is forecasted for completion by end of year.

Once it has been vectored enabled your speeds will increase to 30Mbs +.""

So once you can get at least 30Mb you won't be getting anything else? This confuses me a little because as I pointed out on another thread I know a house that was just recently told it can get 30Mb (conveniently) from the local fibre enabled cabinet, despite last week the online checker only giving 15Mb, but it's within an area on the National Broadband map as one to be targeted by the national broadband plan.

azzeretti · 30-09-2016 11:58AM

Does anyone know what happens if you've a long driveway! Blue line comes into my estate but my drive is about 30-40 metres up to the house. Will Eir dig this up or just run the last part over the existing copper?

ED E · 30-09-2016 12:07PM

azzeretti wrote: »

Does anyone know what happens if you've a long driveway! Blue line comes into my estate but my drive is about 30-40 metres up to the house. Will Eir dig this up or just run the last part over the existing copper?

There has been no non-testing GFAST deployment so if it gets to you its fibre all the way.

Based on previous trends you'll be asked to duct your drive then they'll come back to snake it.

Mickeroo · 30-09-2016 12:34PM

ED E wrote: »

There has been no non-testing GFAST deployment so if it gets to you its fibre all the way.

Based on previous trends you'll be asked to duct your drive then they'll come back to snake it.

in terms of estates, I presume the blue line needs to be going into the estate rather than just passing the entrance?

plodder · 30-09-2016 12:52PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

in terms of estates, I presume the blue line needs to be going into the estate rather than just passing the entrance?

I expect so, since the line is definitely going in to some, which makes it clear the intention is to cover that estate.

It could be one of those cases where conditions on the ground dictate what actually happens though, eg if all services are underground, is the ducting is upt to the job? If not, I don't know what will happen. But, if the blue line passes by without coming in at all, then I suspect you're hosed regardless.

ED E · 30-09-2016 01:34PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

in terms of estates, I presume the blue line needs to be going into the estate rather than just passing the entrance?

Estates will depend heavily on the developer lottery.

Estate X with a VDSL cab at the entrance but inappropriate ducts for blowing fibre will be very low on the list compared to Estate Y with VDSL from 1km away and perfect ducting ready to go.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 30-09-2016 02:20PM

First FTTH numbers published by Openeir:

Athboy - 112 premises
Ballyfarnan - 139
Killinick - 397
Virginia - 85
Youghal - 307

Total: 1040

http://www.openeir.ie/Techbytes/open-eir-brings-fibre-to-the-home-to-more-than-1000-additional-premises-nationwide/

daraghwal · 30-09-2016 03:44PM

azzeretti wrote: »

Does anyone know what happens if you've a long driveway! Blue line comes into my estate but my drive is about 30-40 metres up to the house. Will Eir dig this up or just run the last part over the existing copper?

I asked openeir via email about this back in May. I mentioned that my avenue to my house is up to 80 long (currently with a phone line strung on poles) and the blue line passed my home but does not come down the avenue. This is the response I received. "As the fibre line will run past your home there will be options to enable a connection. open eir is still in discussions with industry in relation to what will be considered a "standard connection" (i.e. what distance from the road will automatically be connected) and what options will be provided for those that are further than that. Unfortunately I cannot provide any further information than that, as the discussions are ongoing."
I don't know if they will have any update on this but the email I used was fibrepower@openeir.ie.

damienirel · 30-09-2016 04:22PM

daraghwal wrote: »

I asked openeir via email about this back in May. I mentioned that my avenue to my house is up to 80 long (currently with a phone line strung on poles) and the blue line passed my home but does not come down the avenue. This is the response I received. "As the fibre line will run past your home there will be options to enable a connection. open eir is still in discussions with industry in relation to what will be considered a "standard connection" (i.e. what distance from the road will automatically be connected) and what options will be provided for those that are further than that. Unfortunately I cannot provide any further information than that, as the discussions are ongoing."
I don't know if they will have any update on this but the email I used was fibrepower@openeir.ie.

I fail to see how eir would treat it any different than a POTS line? Did they not have to run a copper wire up your driveway?

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