Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

corwill · 26-09-2016 12:50PM

ike wrote: »

Firmino's off the ball running is something that often goes unnoticed.

People are starting to notice, now that he's the main man.

ike wrote: »

Every time Mané and Coutinho got on the ball you were off your seat. There was so much movement into the box which really unnerved Hull. Ever since Suarez left and the opposition parked the bus we got used to the ball being moved left and right outside the box hoping for a bit of Coutinho magic...but not anymore.

The last time I watched dominance and penetration like that, I spent half the night getting the viruses off the laptop.

ArmaniJeanss · 26-09-2016 12:52PM

Jamie Carragher on MNF tonight.

Alonso77 · 26-09-2016 01:35PM

David Jones on MNF tonight.

PaddyWilliams · 26-09-2016 01:37PM

Anyone on here watch Monday Night Football? Heard it might be on tonight.

Yawns · 26-09-2016 01:39PM

PaddyWilliams wrote: »

Anyone on here watch Monday Night Football? Heard it might be on tonight.

Any idea who's on it tonight?

Dickerty · 26-09-2016 02:00PM

Yawns wrote: »

Any idea who's on it tonight?

Dave Lee Roth and Zha Zha Gabor, I heard...

paulie21 · 26-09-2016 02:13PM

Is today Monday?

Dickerty · 26-09-2016 02:13PM

While we wait for the Loan Watch update, I had a look at how our summer departures are getting on - not good is the answer!

(setting aside Balo, Skrtel, Ben and Allen who are senior players always likely to start...)

Ibe - Started every league games, subbed off on each occasion, no goals or assists.
Smith - Only played their EFL games so far.
Canos - Also only started EFL games for Norwich, scored 2 and got an assist in a 6-1 win, but no time in the Championship so far.
Sinclair - Not a dicky-bird.
Alberto - 13 mins so far in 4 games.
Teixeira - no minutes so far!
McLaughlin - 120 minutes over 12 games so far.
Rossiter - playes about half of Rangers minutes to date.
Vigouroux - First choice keeper for Swindon

The grass isn't always greener!

54and56 · 26-09-2016 02:39PM

Dickerty wrote: »

While we wait for the Loan Watch update, I had a look at how our summer departures are getting on - not good is the answer!

(setting aside Balo, Skrtel, Ben and Allen who are senior players always likely to start...)

Ibe - Started every league games, subbed off on each occasion, no goals or assists.
Smith - Only played their EFL games so far.
Canos - Also only started EFL games for Norwich, scored 2 and got an assist in a 6-1 win, but no time in the Championship so far.
Sinclair - Not a dicky-bird.
Alberto - 13 mins so far in 4 games.
Teixeira - no minutes so far!
McLaughlin - 120 minutes over 12 games so far.
Rossiter - playes about half of Rangers minutes to date.
Vigouroux - First choice keeper for Swindon

The grass isn't always greener!

How quickly we forget about Jon Flanagan

Edit: My bad. Departures not loans.

klose · 26-09-2016 02:40PM

Dickerty wrote: »

While we wait for the Loan Watch update, I had a look at how our summer departures are getting on - not good is the answer!

(setting aside Balo, Skrtel, Ben and Allen who are senior players always likely to start...)

Ibe - Started every league games, subbed off on each occasion, no goals or assists.
Smith - Only played their EFL games so far.
Canos - Also only started EFL games for Norwich, scored 2 and got an assist in a 6-1 win, but no time in the Championship so far.
Sinclair - Not a dicky-bird.
Alberto - 13 mins so far in 4 games.
Teixeira - no minutes so far!
McLaughlin - 120 minutes over 12 games so far.
Rossiter - playes about half of Rangers minutes to date.
Vigouroux - First choice keeper for Swindon

The grass isn't always greener!

Ive seen teixeira on the bench in portos champions league games but not in the portugese leage games which is odd, he's a player I intend to keep an eye on. Mclaughlins career to date has been ruined by injuries, shame as he looked a good player a few years back.

Boom_Bap · 26-09-2016 03:06PM

In relation to Ibe, you can see that he is being given the ball when playing to try spark something. He starts off on the right in games and hugs the touchline. After 20 - 30 minutes he cuts in and does the #10 role. after about another 10 minutes he is playing as the 2 wingers and the #10.....so no shame in being subbed after playing or 2 or 3 people for the first half.

BorneTobyWilde · 26-09-2016 03:12PM

PaddyWilliams wrote: »

Matip, so far, looks almost majestic at times. I'm impressed.

It's all in the eyes.

PaddyWilliams · 26-09-2016 03:13PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It's all in the eyes.

I looked in his eyes. They truly were majestic.

BorneTobyWilde · 26-09-2016 03:13PM

Yawns wrote: »

Any idea who's on it tonight?

Some German guy I heard. Some nerd with glasses, will be interesting to see who it may be.

Turtyturd · 26-09-2016 03:16PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Some German guy I heard. Some nerd with glasses, will be interesting to see who it may be.

They should send in Faklopp.

Vicxas · 26-09-2016 03:17PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Some German guy I heard. Some nerd with glasses, will be interesting to see who it may be.

Isn't it one of Hans Gruber's Henchmen, you know the guy with smaller feet than John McClain's sister?

Kimbot · 26-09-2016 03:17PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Some German guy I heard. Some nerd with glasses, will be interesting to see who it may be.

Waldo? Im soooooo watching this now then :P

ArmaniJeanss · 26-09-2016 04:09PM

On a somewhat serious note, MNF is usually about Carragher and GaryChuckle dissecting whichever team is in a crisis this week (presumably Chelsea, Sunderland or Hammers) and generally slating their players with video examples.
It'd be good if Klopp didn't get involved in that, no point making enemies unnecessarily. Hopefully he's just there for a 'aren't your team playing great' love-in.

Turtyturd · 26-09-2016 04:11PM

Hopefully he's there to punch Carragher in the head for coming across like a d!ckhead about Moreno.

garra · 26-09-2016 04:16PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Hopefully he's there to punch Carragher in the head for coming across like a d!ckhead about Moreno.

I dont mind him doing that when it's warranted criticism.

Turtyturd · 26-09-2016 04:32PM

garra wrote: »

I dont mind him doing that when it's warranted criticism.

Admittedly criticism was deserved, and as someone whose career was mistake free I can see why Carragher thought he was in a position to administer it, but it was the wrong thing to do by someone who still has connections with the club. I also get the feeling if we were currently suffering Flanagan at RB he wouldn't be so forthcoming with opinions on how bad he is.

Potential Underachiever · 26-09-2016 04:50PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Hopefully he's there to punch Carragher in the head for coming across like a d!ckhead about Moreno.

Strange, you have a serious dislike towards two Liverpool legends in Carra and Stevie G, yet you will defend wasters like Enrique and Moreno, quite baffling tbh.

Every man and his dog has criticised Moreno and rightfully so for some of the ineptitude he has shown, here's a quote from you in fact....Moreno, if he'd two brains he'd be twice as f*cking thick.

So I don't see a problem with Carra doing exactly that. I wouldn't be advocating someone punching a legend like that in the head anyway. Show some respect please and thank you.

MD1990 · 26-09-2016 04:55PM

Ronnie Whelan being a fool as usual he thinks Klopp should be on tv because of Rodgers.

There’s been a big furore over Jurgen Klopp’s appearance on Monday Night Football this evening - here at the ECHO we’ll even be running a special blog on it - but former Reds favourite Ronnie Whelan doesn’t think this is a wise move and fears the Anfield chief could end up like his predecessor Brendan Rodgers.

Speaking in the Irish Independent he said:

“I know Klopp is good in front of the camera and I would trust him not to say anything stupid, but I wonder will we see Pep Guardiola or José Mourinho on Monday Night Football? Can you imagine if Sky had asked Alex Ferguson or Kenny Dalglish to become a talking head? They would have got their answer, alright. Klopp has hardly put a foot wrong in all his club press conferences and I think the journalists who work the beat are delighted with his refreshing honesty, but sometimes that can get you into trouble. I’m not sure we need more Jurgen Klopp and he only has to look at his predecessor’s time at Anfield for a lesson in what over-exposure can do to a manager. Brendan Rodgers became a parody of himself towards the end of his spell at Anfield, simply because he didn’t seem to know when to say nothing. Every time he turned up in front of a camera, his words became more flaky, but he made himself available when he would have been better served hunkering down.

Agent Coulson · 26-09-2016 04:56PM

Expecting Klopp to talk some truth tonight.

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Agent Coulson · 26-09-2016 05:00PM

Klopp was considered one of the top pundits and a regular on German tv before he got the Dortmund job.

Ronnie Whelan needs retire off into the sunset.

Harry Palmr · 26-09-2016 05:01PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Ronnie Whelan being a fool as usual he thinks Klopp should be on tv because of Rodgers.

There’s been a big furore over Jurgen Klopp’s appearance on Monday Night Football this evening - here at the ECHO we’ll even be running a special blog on it - but former Reds favourite Ronnie Whelan doesn’t think this is a wise move and fears the Anfield chief could end up like his predecessor Brendan Rodgers.

Speaking in the Irish Independent he said:

While I trust Klopp to keep it tight and play it light Whelan's broader point is correct. Rodgers ultimately didn't know when to shut the feck up esp with his relentless positivity (regardless of actual form) and limited stock descriptions of players which I don't need to list here! I suspect Dalglish wouldn't go near MNF as well if only because he was/is quite reserved at heart.

martyos121 · 26-09-2016 05:04PM

Klopp waters flowers, according to himself on Sky Sports News just now. More on that as it develops.

MD1990 · 26-09-2016 05:04PM

The critiscism of Moreno has been poor at times tbh.
The thing that annoys me with many of the english pundits (Neville,Carra) or others in the media. They are clearly biased towards English players. Clear example was on the BBC where Sinclair & Murphy was saying Rooney needs to now play as a DM lol. Also if David Luiz done what Cahill done Saturday there would be a 30 min segment on MNF about it.
Neville in co-commentary regulary just brushes aside if an English player makes a mistake.

garra · 26-09-2016 05:06PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Admittedly criticism was deserved, and as someone whose career was mistake free I can see why Carragher thought he was in a position to administer it, but it was the wrong thing to do by someone who still has connections with the club. I also get the feeling if we were currently suffering Flanagan at RB he wouldn't be so forthcoming with opinions on how bad he is.

I think it needed saying and I don't mind whether it's someone with "connections" to the club or not. He is not employed by the club and can speak as freely as he likes about defensive frailties, personally I hope he continues to speak out with the same gusto and disregard for his own standing within the club. We don't need herd mentality just because Klopp is the Messiah.

Regarding the comment about Flanagan not getting a roasting, your feelings are probably correct but we will never know for sure, as Flanagan could never be as defensively inept as Moreno.

Turtyturd · 26-09-2016 05:07PM

Like a f*cking boomerang.

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