2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

KingBrian2 · 22-09-2016 10:05PM

Overheal wrote: »

http://gawker.com/the-collected-quotes-of-donald-trump-on-the-blacks-1719961925

“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

“Laziness is a trait in blacks.”

Oh yeah, it's hard to see why he has such glowing support from the Klu Klux Klan.

You forgot to mention Trump's polices would actually help African Americans in deprived areas of the country that have been neglected by past gvts. That is the real racism.

Overheal · 22-09-2016 10:07PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

You forgot to mention Trump's polices would actually help African Americans in deprived areas of the country that have been neglected by past gvts. That is the real racism.

Which policies are those? I have no idea.

KingBrian2 · 22-09-2016 10:11PM

Overheal wrote: »

Which policies are those? I have no idea.

Police brutality did not start when Trump decided to enter office. You can't put that on him.

Overheal · 22-09-2016 10:16PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Police brutality did not start when Trump decided to enter office. You can't put that on him.

I never said it did?

Suryavarman · 22-09-2016 10:17PM

Overheal wrote: »

Which policies are those? I have no idea.

It's probably the fact that him being elected would make it socially acceptable to be racist again. Oh wait, that wouldn't help at all.

Overheal · 22-09-2016 10:18PM

KingBrian2 wrote:

Trump's polices would actually help African Americans in deprived areas of the country that have been neglected by past gvts

How? Be specific please.

KingBrian2 · 22-09-2016 10:22PM

Overheal wrote: »

How? Be specific please.

Just like with whites in the South or the Hispanic, Asian or whatever community all Americans will be treated the same and citizenship won't be privilege for liberal elitists who are not even liberal. Washington is all for Globalization and calling the supporters of Trump KKK sympathizers and troublemakers.

Black Swan · 22-09-2016 10:23PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

"Going down the road Joe to buy my 4x4 , that's right purpose built and MADE IN CHINA."

Donald Trump talks out of both sides of his mouth from his political pulpit, condemning US corporations importing foreign goods, while at the same time he personally profits from selling his Signature Collection in America with goods MADE IN CHINA and MADE IN MEXICO.

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KingBrian2 · 22-09-2016 10:26PM

Black Swan wrote: »

Donald Trump talks out of both sides of his mouth from his political pulpit, condemning US corporations importing foreign goods, while at the same time he personally profits from selling his Signature Collection in America with goods MADE IN CHINA and MADE IN MEXICO.

He wouldn't be the first besides he is all about bring the companies back from China. He can only do that with the right environment. Now I am not saying he has all the answers. He is however devoted to making America a hell of a lot better producing decent work for all Americans. A noble task if I do say so myself.

Overheal · 22-09-2016 10:27PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Just like with whites in the South or the Hispanic, Asian or whatever community all Americans will be treated the same and citizenship won't be privilege for liberal elitists who are not even liberal.

That doesn't answer my question. Since the 1700s all men have been created equal - thats all you're saying.

What Trump policy will "help African Americans in deprived areas of the country that have been neglected by past gvts"?

I mean, what I'm getting at here is that you're saying that, but in fact you actually have no effin' clue. I welcome you to prove me wrong however. Which policy of Trumps will help inner city minorities? Stop and Frisk nationwide? Mass deportation? Carpet-bombing Syria?

K-9 · 22-09-2016 10:28PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

The argument posted is that Trump is some kind of racist extremist. I strongly believe he is not as extreme as popular myth about him is. All hyperbole designed to humiliate Mr Trump and the vicious attacks on his supporters is offensive to the American public. In business you have no friends. Competitors, business rivals & political opportunists are jumping on in when he has made important contributions to everyday American lives.

Trump has a lot of alt right type supporters. People calling out racist elements of his support is not offensive to the American public, that looks like deflection to me. That Trumps support rates Duke higher than Hillary speaks only about Trump supporters, who aren't the American people!

KingBrian2 · 22-09-2016 10:31PM

Overheal wrote: »

That doesn't answer my question. Since the 1700s all men have been created equal - thats all you're saying.

What Trump policy will "help African Americans in deprived areas of the country that have been neglected by past gvts"?

I mean, what I'm getting at here is that you're saying that, but in fact you actually have no effin' clue. I welcome you to prove me wrong however. Which policy of Trumps will help inner city minorities? Stop and Frisk nationwide? Mass deportation? Carpet-bombing Syria?

As I said from the very beginning reducing gvt deficit. Solving the problem is complex and many Americans will be doing it. The Democrats don't believe in reducing gvt deficit and the idea that they are fiscally responsible is a joke. When Clinton was president the economy was growing and this improved his standing. Clinton was an alright President but given recent crisis the support for Trump is perfectly understandable.

Christy42 · 22-09-2016 10:31PM

Overheal wrote: »

Which policies are those? I have no idea.

You know what. I am tired by the repeated doing by Trump supporters on here.

Let's keep repeating this till we get an answer as to which Trump policies would help black people.

Overheal · 22-09-2016 10:36PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

As I said from the very beginning reducing gvt deficit. Solving the problem is complex and many Americans will be doing it. The Democrats don't believe in reducing gvt deficit and the idea that they are fiscally responsible is a joke. When Clinton was president the economy was growing and this improved his standing. Clinton was an alright President but given recent crisis the support for Trump is perfectly understandable.

He's not reducing the deficit. look at the numbers.

http://crfb.org/sites/default/files/Promises_and_Price_Tags_Preliminary_Update.pdf

I don't know how to make it any clearer for you: your belief that he will reduce the deficit is a complete falsehood. By your own admission things were done right under Bill Clinton, and Hillary Clinton's proposed numbers are right here for you. Your claim about her fiscal responsibility is demonstrably invalid.

Black Swan · 22-09-2016 10:36PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

He wouldn't be the first besides he is all about bring the companies back from China. He can only do that with the right environment. Now I am not saying he has all the answers. He is however devoted to making America a hell of a lot better producing decent work for all Americans. A noble task if I do say so myself.

The first "Make American Great Again" ball caps were MADE IN CHINA. Does anyone see the craic?

KingBrian2 · 22-09-2016 10:38PM

Christy42 wrote: »

You know what. I am tired by the repeated doing by Trump supporters on here.

Let's keep repeating this till we get an answer as to which Trump policies would help black people.

As opposed to the repeated insults of Trump routinely. The fact that reducing gvt deficit is stupid.

Overheal · 22-09-2016 10:42PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

The fact that reducing gvt deficit is stupid.

As indicated by Trump's proposals it seems to be the case...

Suryavarman · 22-09-2016 10:43PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

As I said from the very beginning reducing gvt deficit. Solving the problem is complex and many Americans will be doing it. The Democrats don't believe in reducing gvt deficit and the idea that they are fiscally responsible is a joke. When Clinton was president the economy was growing and this improved his standing. Clinton was an alright President but given recent crisis the support for Trump is perfectly understandable.

Trump doesn't propose reducing the deficit. Why do you keep saying he is going to reduce the deficit despite the fact his policies would do the exact opposite and massively increase the deficit? I'd like to note that this has been said to you multiple times and yet you repeat this nonsense that his policies would reduce the deficit.

20Cent · 22-09-2016 10:43PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

As opposed to the repeated insults of Trump routinely. The fact that reducing gvt deficit is stupid.

Trump wants to cut taxes and increase spending. Where does this idea he will decrease the deficit come from?

Suryavarman · 22-09-2016 10:44PM

20Cent wrote: »

Trump wants to cut taxes and increase spending. Where does this idea he will decrease the deficit come from?

An overactive imagination.

alastair · 22-09-2016 10:46PM

Amerika wrote: »

Attorney General Eric Schneiderman?

The progressive political opportunist and former Democratic State Senator who has publicly denounced Donald Trump? The AG who has displayed vindictiveness toward political foes and is lenient (or conveniently ignorant) towards the suspect activities of political friends? That guy?

I’m sure he approached Stop And Frisk with an open mind. :rolleyes:

I'm fairly confident he has the capacity to read the stats like everyone else. What do they suggest to you?

KingBrian2 · 22-09-2016 10:48PM

20Cent wrote: »

Trump wants to cut taxes and increase spending. Where does this idea he will decrease the deficit come from?

It comes from the notion that the Democrats wont reduce deficits because they are the party of spending. And don't use the George Bush spent like a wild man. Today's America is not the same as pre Bush. Democrats grow gvt. Since the 1980's along with privatization the gvt has also expanded into all areas of American lives. The notion that gvt has been privatizing all aspect of American life is also flatly untrue. Subsidies which are infact illegal in the EU of monopolies is actually encouraged in the US. The level of concentration of wealth is actually partially due to gvt involvement in so much of what a market does.

PopePalpatine · 22-09-2016 10:53PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

As I said from the very beginning reducing gvt deficit. Solving the problem is complex and many Americans will be doing it. The Democrats don't believe in reducing gvt deficit and the idea that they are fiscally responsible is a joke. When Clinton was president the economy was growing and this improved his standing. Clinton was an alright President but given recent crisis the support for Trump is perfectly understandable.

And that helps minorities...how?

Why am I not surprised that Trump's fanboys can't go into detail on his policies...:rolleyes:

K-9 · 22-09-2016 10:56PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

It comes from the notion that the Democrats wont reduce deficits because they are the party of spending. And don't use the George Bush spent like a wild man. Today's America is not the same as pre Bush. Democrats grow gvt. Since the 1980's along with privatization the gvt has also expanded into all areas of American lives. The notion that gvt has been privatizing all aspect of American life is also flatly untrue. Subsidies which are infact illegal in the EU of monopolies is actually encouraged in the US. The level of concentration of wealth is actually partially due to gvt involvement in so much of what a market does.

But it has been shown to you repeatedly that Trumps plans cost more.

Trumps plans cost more than the Democrats

Trumps plans cost more than the Democrats.

Trumps plans cost more than the Democrats.

InTheTrees · 22-09-2016 11:24PM

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Why am I not surprised that Trump's fanboys can't go into detail on his policies...:rolleyes:

But it makes for an amusing thread. Reading these increasingly frustrated posts from people who will never be able to understand the nonsense and drivel put out by the trump supporters.

"Low information voter" is certainly the catch phrase of this election. What's interesting about this demographic is that they feel no shame, they embrace the lack of knowledge and see no value in expanding this outlook at all.

K-9 · 22-09-2016 11:28PM

In fairness it's my own fault. Politics is partisan enough at the best of times but this is past ideology and into the realm of religion.

Overheal · 22-09-2016 11:34PM

K-9 wrote: »

In fairness it's my own fault. Politics is partisan enough at the best of times but this is past ideology and into the realm of religion.

Politics and religion mix often when you look favorably at a politician as a monarch, ruler, emperor, etc. as seems to be the case here for "Noble" Donald Trump

Christy42 · 22-09-2016 11:48PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

As opposed to the repeated insults of Trump routinely. The fact that reducing gvt deficit is stupid.

I fail to see how this describes how Trump's policies will help black people in the US.

KingBrian2 · 22-09-2016 11:54PM

Christy42 wrote: »

I fail to see how this describes how Trump's policies will help black people in the US.

I've already mentioned that the Democrats have failed to deliver any benefits to African Americans or indeed many Americans across the country. The elite can slag the lwr classes as much as they like. The more they do the more the extremists will come out. Trump has energized a huge number of people. He won the GOP candidacy and he is up against poor opposition. All I have been saying this entire time is that Trump's notoriety has been greatly exaggerated.

K-9 · 23-09-2016 12:02AM

Overheal wrote: »

Politics and religion mix often when you look favorably at a politician as a monarch, ruler, emperor, etc. as seems to be the case here for "Noble" Donald Trump

Reminds me of the this American life podcast I listened to around the beginning of the year. Young gay guy was campaigning for Trump at his local uni. Guy had a tough upbringing, adopted at 15 or 16 and his adoptive parents were Cruz supporters.

The reason he followed Trump so much was because he was always pro SSM. After Trump "came out" as anti SSM they went back to the young lad again, he just swatted it away and excused it. The cult of Trump won out which I found a bit sad tbh.

2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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