is Mourinho a busted flush?

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Exactly how it reads.

What have you been right about?

Check my posts re: Mourinho and you'll see. Like looking into the future.

It isn't so much that he's lost three games in a row that driving the debate, it's more that after last season's meltdown at Chelsea everyone knows that Jose does have the potential to lose the plot and everyone, to differing degrees, wonders if it's all kicking off again - of all the things people argue about regarding football, this is hardly any more stupid than most of them. It's this kind of nonsense that keeps us all entertained.

Whether Jose is actually losing it is hard to say really, every team can go through bad patches in a season where they lose several games on the bounce, but if United do lose the next one the media heat, rightly or wrongly, will start to increase markedly and everything could go into overdrive - after last year they are primed for the first sign of weakness or conflict. Jose has been a master manipulator of the media for years and I, for one, wouldn't have too much sympathy for him if he finds all that negative glare hard to handle when it doesn't suit.

I'll be concerned if this continues into December and January. Not overly concerned now.

I'd say a few players might well be playing their way out of the club at this stage. One in particular springs to mind. It was a team on the floor that he got some early wins and now it's regressed a bit to type. He has my faith and backing to sort the team out, but I'm not so stupid to think its going to happen instantly. He will find a balance, a formation and a XI.

As much as Pep seems to be getting praise and comparisons for what he is doing at City, it just shows how people twist the narrative between the two of them to suit a persons agenda.

Also as someone who is not a Mourinho fan, but a United fan, I've had no issue with how he has conducted himself thus far. Players playing dog**** need to know about it privately and publicly. There is either a reaction, or time on the bench. Our club is too big to be catering to cotton wool individuals not liking their feelings hurt. Your either good enough and strong enough to play for United or your not. Mental strength is just as important and a reason so many people dont make it into professional football, nevermind ability.

The only issues I've had was with Schweinsteiger as I felt it was hasty and the player should have been given a chance. And fit and firing he is a player our team could get great use out of.

We just need the hard, ruthless Mourinho to show up. Van Gaal, for all his reputation, never did. The job dwarfed his authority a bit, and I never saw the Van Gaal I'd seen elsewhere. We need a confident Jose, confident in what he is doing, what he wants and the decisions he is making.

Very shortly I'm about to see if I have the real Mourinho, or if this job is about to engulf another top class manager. And that test is Rooney.

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

And to be honest, most United fans would accept that. They'd also accept his defensive football as somebody alluded to above. We are looking for somebody to stabilise the club and take us back to winning ways.

I do find it baffling that some Liverpool and Arsenal fans are willing us to write him off considering they've spent the best part of two decades passionately defending objectively inferior managers - something I always respected. I get it from City and Chelsea fans because their club policy is very much to arrest a slump with a sacking - which to be fair, will probably be United's too, from now on - but even still, it's 5 games in!

As a rule Arsenal fans intensely dislike Mourinho

We'll take any chance to stick the knife in!

Don't think anyone can use Schweinsteiger as a stick to beat Mourinho. He came in, didn't fancy him and told him to leave - he chose not to. It's the same as City with Hart, Liverpool with Balotelli and if anything the criticism should be leveled at Schweinsteiger.

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Lol

Slightly different to comments on playing performance! Klopp has defended (the irony) Moreno when he felt he was coming in for OTT criticism.

The press reported that shaw was a bit pissed because Jose was supposed to have said that players wouldn't be singled out for criticism. If that's true it isn't a good sign.

Anyway it's still way to early for the press meltdown we are getting, he has lost 2 League game FFS. The same press thought they knew how the season would pan out after 3 games.

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

That's the one:)


Any news?

I'll post an updated thread in the coming days once I get some input from the Mod team.

I've been kicking this down the road myself and nearly forgot about it what with the Euros taking place and all.

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

I really hope Jose's team thumps Northampton tonight, it would be a shame for the pantomime to end too early.

And you pop into the United thread and expect to be taken seriously?

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Very hard to take seriously.

Look at the entertainment that's being provided off the field rather than on it, long may it last. Seriously!!

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Unrelated to Jose but more relating to these "credible" sources people keep claiming are valid.
Thanks to The Doc

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‘Mourinho is also set to axe captain Wayne Rooney for Saturday’s clash with Leicester following another poor performance at Vicarage Road’ – Neil Ashton, The Sun, September 20.

‘Rooney is in need of rest and a period to reflect on a difficult start to life under the new boss. He may well get that chance by sitting out Saturday’s lunchtime clash with Leicester’ – Neil Ashton, The Sun, September 21.

‘Axe’ to ‘in need of rest and period to reflect’? Half-way to completing a U-turn, there.

What's the difference between Jose "axing" Rooney on Saturday and telling him he needs "rest and a period to reflect on a difficult start to life under the new boss"? Both = being dropped. Axing is calling it what it is, calling it a rest like Rooney somehow suggested it or got a Doctors note requesting he not be picked on Saturday is just plain old PR which not many would choose to believe or to classify as some sort of half U turn