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Dublin Marathon 2016 - Mentored Novices Thread

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  • #3842
    aquinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭aquinn


    ddubs wrote: »
    Folks, I know that the race entry is closed, could someone give me advice on where I might pick up a late entry (donedeal etc.?) or is there awaiting list I can get on? Id expect there are many late drop outs due to injury. I hadn't expected to be in Dublin but circumstances have changed and Id love to take advantage.

    Thanks in advance.

    Apologies mod's if this is against the rules. I'm looking on advice on where I could go to purchase an entry as opposed to soliciting a swap here.

    Hi,

    Any questions for DCM would be better here:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057612283&page=28

    There were additional spots allocated. Those people had 7 days I believe to submit code. If not those spots are then re-allocated. There is a waiting list so you can try that.


  • #3843
    Safrongirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Safrongirl


    Hi All,
    These double shifts at work are really killing me and tiredness is completely taking over my soul now. Not sure how much longer I can keep them up but looks like I will be doing them right up to the DCM

    Training going well but I am starting to stress the small stuff
    Does your whole family go to support you ?
    Do you tell them where to stand to cheer you on or is there a "best" place to stand ?
    As I will be running for about 5 hours or more does your family stand around all this time ? Cant see 4 young people waiting that long for a fleeting glimpse of mammy strugglying by !
    I hope to travel up that morning and as I wont be starting till I think 9.30 what time do you advise I aim to be up there for ?
    Sorry for all the questions but need to start making some decision


  • #3844
    aceygray
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭aceygray


    nop98 wrote: »
    You can rest assured that you are giving yourself every chance to still make the start-line. If DCM weren't to happen for you this year, it's not for lack of trying or doing exactly the right things when luck seems to go against you, from seeking (and sticking to) professional advice, to adapting your expectations, staying positive, and even coming up with an alternative non-running plan. I do realize that all the LSR reports and HM excitement must sting a little when you're on an enforced break (for you and the others in the sickbay).

    Thanks nop98. My sister picked up an injury around this time last year. She missed five weeks of training, and against advice ran the marathon anyway. She finished, but was out of training for several months afterwards. I don't plan on doing that!

    If I am well enough to make it to the start line I will be delighted. I'm going to look after myself as much as possible to give myself the best chance. But if I can't, well all my training this year will stand to me next year. (But I will be raging all the same!)


  • #3845
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Safrongirl wrote: »
    Hi All,
    These double shifts at work are really killing me and tiredness is completely taking over my soul now. Not sure how much longer I can keep them up but looks like I will be doing them right up to the DCM

    Training going well but I am starting to stress the small stuff
    Does your whole family go to support you ?
    Do you tell them where to stand to cheer you on or is there a "best" place to stand ?
    As I will be running for about 5 hours or more does your family stand around all this time ? Cant see 4 young people waiting that long for a fleeting glimpse of mammy strugglying by !
    I hope to travel up that morning and as I wont be starting till I think 9.30 what time do you advise I aim to be up there for ?
    Sorry for all the questions but need to start making some decision

    As regards the family, or anyone coming in to support you - they can watch from basically anywhere along the route. Obviously start and finish points will be more crowded but there are plenty of spots to watch from, both in town and out. I went in to support my OH and club mates the last two years and Fosters Ave is a spot I go to. Handy to get parked, easy to get to and people tend to like the support at that point ad well.

    With small kids I would agree that a short time waiting around is best so just work out approx when you'd be passing a certain point based on your PMP and work it out with the family members. If you are expecting them to have drinks or food for you at that point, you need to be very specific with time and location and make sure they are early.


  • #3846
    The Muppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    PauloMN wrote: »
    With small kids I would agree that a short time waiting around is best so just work out approx when you'd be passing a certain point based on your PMP and work it out with the family members. If you are expecting them to have drinks or food for you at that point, you need to be very specific with time and location and make sure they are early.


    The last page of the novices milage tracker has a list of where we should be at a given time if running at a given pace. It would help when planning times for meet ups with the family .


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  • #3847
    Safrongirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Safrongirl


    I am considering now maybe getting alift up with someone on that morning - have a bit of time to myself to freek out and no kids to worry about too and then for hubby and kids to head up later on that day ? As I wont be starting till 9.30 and say 5+ hours later to get near the finish so was going to say to them to head up for about 1.30 and that gives them a chance to park and walk up to where its all at ????

    I have visions of me being a total blithering wreck that morning - needing the toilet every 5 minutes and feeling generally sick as a dog but I am guessing there will be a few others like me too

    I am going to try a gel and some sweets this Thursday on my long run and see how is goes


  • #3848
    Firedance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    aceygray wrote: »
    Thanks nop98. My sister picked up an injury around this time last year. She missed five weeks of training, and against advice ran the marathon anyway. She finished, but was out of training for several months afterwards. I don't plan on doing that!

    If I am well enough to make it to the start line I will be delighted. I'm going to look after myself as much as possible to give myself the best chance. But if I can't, well all my training this year will stand to me next year. (But I will be raging all the same!)

    Yes, no doubt you will, but you'll be less raging in the following months when you've done the right thing. This is a timely reminder to all that as great as DCM is, it's one marathon. A year flies by so you can always do DCM 2017, or 2018 for that matter and a whole host of other marathons in between. Your sensible approach and attitude will stand to you aceygrey and is to be commended. I really hope you get to start this year but I"m delighted you're thinking ahead to the longer term.


  • #3849
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,364 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Did todays 4 miler and just realised that it was effectively my last "short" run! A lot of the Tuesday/Thursday runs had all been 5k but now there is nothing under 5 miles until well into the taper! Shit is getting real! :pac:


  • #3850
    The Muppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    The Muppet wrote: »
    The last page of the novices milage tracker has a list of where we should be at a given time if running at a given pace. It would help when planning times for meet ups with the family .

    Here's a link to the tracker, was on my phone earlier so I couldn't link. The supporters time guide page has the relevant Info.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZeY0_GQOn9afyfuIYEqMjEgFnAJrbMDeCqFvy_V-V0Q/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=854591149


  • #3851
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,364 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Any suggestions on where to park for the half-marathon on Saturday? I wanted to use public transport as a practice run for the main thing but that option is out it seems. :rolleyes:

    I'm never really in that part of town, not sure at all where would be good for somebody coming from south dublin?


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  • #3852
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Any suggestions on where to park for the half-marathon on Saturday? I wanted to use public transport as a practice run for the main thing but that option is out it seems. :rolleyes:

    I'm never really in that part of town, not sure at all where would be good for somebody coming from south dublin?

    For the 5 mile and 10 mile I went in the Ashtown Gate and parked on the grass verge along the North Road. Worked out grand both times. It's a nice warmup walk / jog from there to the start line.


  • #3853
    smashiner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭smashiner


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    For the 5 mile and 10 mile I went in the Ashtown Gate and parked on the grass verge along the North Road. Worked out grand both times. It's a nice warm up walk / jog from there to the start line.

    You could also drive to or catch the Red Line Luas to Heuston Station and then jump on one of the courtesy buses (8:30-9:30) laid on by the DCHM and save the auld legs for the running.
    Plenty of parking spaces in the main car park in Heuston Station, just make sure that you pay and display as you will probably be clamped otherwise.

    Another option is to go across the M50 and aim for the Castleknock gate entrance to the Phoenix Park and ditch the car in a side road and then it is a brisk walk to the start line...


  • #3854
    nop98
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Safrongirl wrote: »
    Hi All,
    These double shifts at work are really killing me and tiredness is completely taking over my soul now. Not sure how much longer I can keep them up but looks like I will be doing them right up to the DCM

    Ouch, Safrongirl, that sounds tough. If nothing can be done about the double-shifts, make sure that the feet go up as soon and as much as is remotely possible! You probably want to become very unscociable at this point, any evening you can be in bed early, do. And a few lie-ons if possible! :D Tell the hubby we said so!
    Safrongirl wrote: »
    Training going well but I am starting to stress the small stuff
    Does your whole family go to support you ?
    Do you tell them where to stand to cheer you on or is there a "best" place to stand ?
    As I will be running for about 5 hours or more does your family stand around all this time ? Cant see 4 young people waiting that long for a fleeting glimpse of mammy strugglying by !
    I hope to travel up that morning and as I wont be starting till I think 9.30 what time do you advise I aim to be up there for ?
    Sorry for all the questions but need to start making some decision

    So, it's a bit early to start planning for this in detail, but if this starts to stress you out, let's have the conversation now. :)

    It's already been mentioned that there are many, many places all around the course where you can have supporters. The key thing is to have agreed very clearly with them where they will be. First of all, the landmark (e.g. the 17M marker, or "at the start of the UCD flyover" and second of all, which side of the road. If this sounds like overkill, think about the fact that there will be 1,000s of runners (also later on in the race) with as many, if not more supporters. Don't leave it to chance to meet them, your brain simply won't be able for it (plus it will be something less to worry about).

    It depends a little what you want to achieve. Do you want your family to see you early on? Halfway? Towards the end? If you want to see them afterwards (and show them your medal!), probably best for them to come towards a spot closer to the finishline. Yes, you might be no longer 'fresh' but then again, nobody is, and nobody cares :)

    Last year, I had made very specific agreements with some friends who were carrying some water\gels for me, and they were exactly where I wanted them to be. My family (better half & 2 kids - I think a little older than yours) were waiting at the final bridge (just after the 26M mark), on the right side of the road. I had suggested to be there 3h30 or so after we kicked off, and they just enjoyed themselves for the ~40 minutes they were there waiting for me. You don't have to be there for all 4-5 hours! I never worried or stressed about meeting them and they were exactly where we had agreed and it was super. We met that close to the finishline to make it achievable for them to come see me after - which was awesome.
    Safrongirl wrote: »
    I am considering now maybe getting alift up with someone on that morning - have a bit of time to myself to freek out and no kids to worry about too and then for hubby and kids to head up later on that day ? As I wont be starting till 9.30 and say 5+ hours later to get near the finish so was going to say to them to head up for about 1.30 and that gives them a chance to park and walk up to where its all at ????

    I have visions of me being a total blithering wreck that morning - needing the toilet every 5 minutes and feeling generally sick as a dog but I am guessing there will be a few others like me too

    Even tho the start might not be until 9:30am, you want to give yourself plenty of time. I would aim to be in the Merrion Square area no later than 8am. There will be close to 20,000 people trying to get into town, drop their bags, queue for the toilets, etc, etc, etc. It's also electric in terms of atmosphere, nerves, excitement, etc. Don't spoil your day by being late, rushing, and missing it all.

    Similarly, afterwards, the area around Merrion Square is completely packed and lots of it is fenced off - it's not trivial to meet your family. You want to agree a very specific place (e.g. at Government buildings, or better yet, McGrattan's pub). Your family will have to move from where they saw you come in, which won't be easy - and you'll have to collect medal, goodie-bag, probably shed a tear or two, hug some strangers, get your bag out of the bag-drop, change into something dry, etc. It'll take a while before you're out and ready to meet someone.

    I am not sure how feasible it is with 4 young kids, but I'd park somewhere away from the area and take the DART. Maybe better, organize a sleep-over for the kids at home and get just the hubby to come down - or travel the day before!

    Think about it and post your plans here - we'll help vet them to see if it works. It's really worth getting this planned out because it will be VERY busy on the day itself, and the last thing you want to do is worry about it on the morning itself!

    Lastly, read through some of the reports from last year (CFR posted a link to them), you'll get a sense for the morning of the race.
    Safrongirl wrote: »
    I am going to try a gel and some sweets this Thursday on my long run and see how is goes

    YES to this. As with the above, all this needs to be planned and tried right now :)


  • #3855
    Thewitheredowl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Thewitheredowl


    Hi all,

    Been lurking in the shadows here for a few weeks. Reading the weekly updates and race reports is very interesting stuff and it's nice to have somewhere to come to help gauge how you're getting on compared to others in the same boat.

    So, a bit about me and what I'm hoping to do.

    Having played football from from an early age non-stop I gave up a couple of years ago, I wanted to keep active as I was turning in to a half man/half couch type of creature, so I started running. I decided to give DCM '15 a bash and thought it would be a piece of piss as I always considered myself to be naturally fit and I was always the fittest on my football teams. So I started a 16 week plan, and within 5 weeks I was fcucked, made every mistake possible. Done all my long runs at PMP, done mad jumps in mileage week on week and didn't stop training when the early signs of injury started to show. It got to the point when walking hurt so I done one sensible thing at least and knocked it on the head for that year.

    Having went out and supported some friends and family that were doing DCM '15, it looked amazing and I said I'd give it the respect it deserved in 2016 and have another go. With the injury cleared up after nearly 3 months rest I started running again in Nov '15. Ran just twice a week from there building up nice and steady and at a relaxed pace and started another 16 week plan for this years race.

    My goal for this is to finish in 3h30m. I know its ambitious for a first go but I'm putting in the work for it and I'll be there or thereabouts. I wouldn't be devastated to miss the target as I fully understand what it must take to just get around the course, with all the things that have to go right on the day for you to hit a specific target I'm realistic that if it's not happening for me on the day that I will just run to the best that those conditions allow and enjoy and learn from the experience.

    Best times for some distances to date:

    5k : 20.30
    10k : 43.25
    Half (Race): 1.39.15

    Hoping to make it to the start in one piece and wishing you guys a healthy run-in to 30th Oct too


  • #3856
    aquinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Thewitheredowl wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Been lurking in the shadows here for a few weeks. Reading the weekly updates and race reports is very interesting stuff and it's nice to have somewhere to come to help gauge how you're getting on compared to others in the same boat.

    So, a bit about me and what I'm hoping to do.

    Having played football from from an early age non-stop I gave up a couple of years ago, I wanted to keep active as I was turning in to a half man/half couch type of creature, so I started running. I decided to give DCM '15 a bash and thought it would be a piece of piss as I always considered myself to be naturally fit and I was always the fittest on my football teams. So I started a 16 week plan, and within 5 weeks I was fcucked, made every mistake possible. Done all my long runs at PMP, done mad jumps in mileage week on week and didn't stop training when the early signs of injury started to show. It got to the point when walking hurt so I done one sensible thing at least and knocked it on the head for that year.

    Having went out and supported some friends and family that were doing DCM '15, it looked amazing and I said I'd give it the respect it deserved in 2016 and have another go. With the injury cleared up after nearly 3 months rest I started running again in Nov '15. Ran just twice a week from there building up nice and steady and at a relaxed pace and started another 16 week plan for this years race.

    My goal for this is to finish in 3h30m. I know its ambitious for a first go but I'm putting in the work for it and I'll be there or thereabouts. I wouldn't be devastated to miss the target as I fully understand what it must take to just get around the course, with all the things that have to go right on the day for you to hit a specific target I'm realistic that if it's not happening for me on the day that I will just run to the best that those conditions allow and enjoy and learn from the experience.

    Best times for some distances to date:

    5k : 20.30
    10k : 43.25
    Half (Race): 1.39.15

    Hoping to make it to the start in one piece and wishing you guys a healthy run-in to 30th Oct too

    Morning/welcome/hi,

    What plan are you following and how are you getting on?

    Have you done any of the race series and how did you get on? When are those race times from, recent?


  • #3857
    kittyclaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭kittyclaws


    Physio went ok this morning - but she had a few home truths. If I still have any hip/back pain in two weeks she wants me to drop out of the marathon, but in the mean time I can go back to my plan and see how I get on - albeit all runs should all be at a slower pace from now until I go back to see her.
    I am optimistic, I feel a lot better now than I did two weeks ago, my Monday evening run was painfree (until I stopped, then had hip pain driving home).
    I'll try for 6 - 8 tonight, 4 tomorrow and the half on Saturday and then I've to report back and get a plan from her for next week.
    No extra gym work allowed apart from a 30 min swim on a non-running day.
    I think I'll be ok but I'll take it a day at a time and be sure to stretch every evening!!


  • #3858
    Thewitheredowl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Thewitheredowl


    Hi aquinn,

    I'm not following a plan as such. I am doing 4 runs per week.

    2 midweek runs can range from 10k to 18k with about 70% of each run at PMP less 15 seconds. My PMP is 5min/KM for reference so the runs are approx 4.45/KM for the 70% and then nice and relaxed for the other 30%.

    LSR at weekend is run at 5.30/KM and is up to 22 miles now. Will do two more 20 mile runs before the marathon.

    The other weekly run is about 5-8 km @ around 6min/KM

    Those times that i posted, the 5k and 10k are from training runs within this block of training and the half was the RnR race in August


  • #3859
    aquinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Thewitheredowl wrote: »
    Hi aquinn,

    I'm not following a plan as such. I am doing 4 runs per week.

    2 midweek runs can range from 10k to 18k with about 70% of each run at PMP less 15 seconds. My PMP is 5min/KM for reference so the runs are approx 4.45/KM for the 70% and then nice and relaxed for the other 30%.

    LSR at weekend is run at 5.30/KM and is up to 22 miles now. Will do two more 20 mile runs before the marathon.

    The other weekly run is about 5-8 km @ around 6min/KM

    Those times that i posted, the 5k and 10k are from training runs within this block of training and the half was the RnR race in August

    Hmmn, no plan and km.

    LSR is recommended to be done 60-90 seconds slower than PMP.

    Then you have have easy runs and recovery runs, post interval training.

    Are you doing any speed work at all or all PMP miles?

    How was the 22 miler?


  • #3860
    Thewitheredowl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Thewitheredowl


    aquinn wrote: »
    Hmmn, no plan and km.

    LSR is recommended to be done 60-90 seconds slower than PMP.

    Then you have have easy runs and recovery runs, post interval training.

    Are you doing any speed work at all or all PMP miles?

    How was the 22 miler?

    Yeah not following a plan, there seems to be as many plans as there are runners, and they all are slightly different so I didn't know which to follow so I just adapted the common themes from plans I've read and adapted them into my workouts.

    I thought PMP + 30secs was sufficient for a LSR. The 22 mile run at this pace was comfortable and the other 4 and a bit miles could have been completed no problem. I know it will be a different story at PMP on the day.

    With regard to speed work, my mid week runs have fast km's built in to them. I do various workouts which I won't bore you with but defo some speed stuff.

    August my total was 225km and September is looking like it will be 250-260km


  • #3861
    Murph_D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,916 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hi witheredowl,

    How many miles/kms have you run this year on average? What's been your maximum weekly mileage?

    If you've managed a 22-mile LSR easily, it looks like you have excellent endurance, so for the last five weeks you just need to be keeping things sensible, maybe transitioning to running a bit more at actual MP before tapering back for the final 2.5-3 weeks.

    You've done a lot of work at PMP -15 secs/km (4:45). It would have been useful perhaps to have done some work at your lactate threshold (probably around 4:20/km, based on your time trials). Speedwork (short intervals at 3-5k pace) is also a useful element of a marathon plan, but perhaps less so at this late stage.

    So at this stage I wouldn't be changing a lot. Why don't you post your proposed schedule for the final five weeks and perhaps we could give you some feedback.

    Best of luck!


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  • #3862
    Thewitheredowl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Thewitheredowl


    Hi Murph,

    Looking at my log I have done 1250km this year to date.
    My max for 1 week was 77km and that was this month.

    With 5 weekends left with the marathon being the 6th w/end my plan is to get two more 30k runs done.
    I'm away this weekend so I'm just going to write it off and forget about it. That leaves me 4 training weekends, so next weekend and the weekend after will be the 30k runs before I ease off on the distance for the last two weekends. Was thinking on one of the 30k runs to do the middle 15k at MP. Is this of any benefit to me or would I be as well to keep it at the LSR pace that I have been doing to now - 5.30km?

    For my runs during the week I was thinking on one of the days each week to run at MP just to get used to the feel of that pace. I'm open to advice though whether or not that's the right thing.


  • #3863
    Pomplamousse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Pomplamousse


    Just heard that at the moment the weather forecast for Saturday morning isn't great, rain forecast for 10am, the time the half marathon is due to start. Do not want a replay of the Frank Duffy 10 mile pre-race conditions:(


  • #3864
    aquinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Pomplamousse wrote: »
    Just heard that at the moment the weather forecast for Saturday morning isn't great, rain forecast for 10am, the time the half marathon is due to start. Do not want a replay of the Frank Duffy 10 mile pre-race conditions:(

    Enough about you, what about ME?

    I'm stewarding. 3 hours last time in horrendous rain.


  • #3865
    Pomplamousse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Pomplamousse


    aquinn wrote: »
    Enough about you, what about ME?

    I'm stewarding. 3 hours last time in horrendous rain.

    Ok yes that would be way worse:eek:
    I don't mind running in the rain, it's the being freezing & drenched before the race has even begun that I hate:( Paranoid I can feel a sniffle coming on too so I'm stocking up on echinacea tonight.


  • #3866
    diego_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭diego_b


    Pomplamousse wrote: »
    Ok yes that would be way worse:eek:
    I don't mind running in the rain, it's the being freezing & drenched before the race has even begun that I hate:( Paranoid I can feel a sniffle coming on too so I'm stocking up on echinacea tonight.

    Pick up a bin bag to wear before the race as well!


  • #3867
    Pomplamousse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Pomplamousse


    diego_b wrote: »
    Pick up a bin bag to wear before the race as well!

    I did that for the Frank Duffy 10 mile but was soaked through after about 10 minutes:o If it does rain this Saturday, I might opt for at least 3 layers of bin bags this time:cool:


  • #3868
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Bring on the rain! Should knock a couple of minutes off my time. :D


  • #3869
    Coffee Fulled Runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭Coffee Fulled Runner


    Pomplamousse wrote: »
    I did that for the Frank Duffy 10 mile but was soaked through after about 10 minutes:o If it does rain this Saturday, I might opt for at least 3 layers of bin bags this time:cool:
    FYI :cool:
    http://m.ebay.ie/itm/Thicken-Disposable-Adults-Raincoat-Rainwear-Rain-proof-Travel-Raincape-Poncho-/121649364179?nav=SEARCH


  • #3870
    Safrongirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Safrongirl


    Oh standing aroud in the rain waiting to run is horrible - its not so bad if you can get straight at it or if it starts to rain when your out but at the start line its not very nice.

    I ran the mini marathon last year and it was pissing rain - had on a cheap rain coat at the beginning but then it got so hot so ended up taking it of an tying it round my waist - maybe someting disposable like those big ponchos would be better ??? more for my every growing list

    LRS tomorrow - so not feeling it - lets hope I get a sudden burst of energy between now and then


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  • #3871
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Winds supposed to be at 40k on Saturday morning too. Don't mind the rain but hate the wind


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