Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Note in OP, 13/9

Nalz wrote: »

Tit for tat so yeah?

I wonder what the wider audience think

Oh I'm sorry. You want to doubt the honesty of my argument but don't like it when I do the same to you?

Nalz wrote: »

No no not at all. Don't turn it into an aggressive or petty argument or a poster v poster thing. I disagree with you, you disagree with me. I think part your post was written biasedly to defend Rooney after all the debates lately. Tit for tat.

Let's keep it civil, and let me wonder what others think and state that so others can join in.

If you want to express doubts you have about the motivation behind my argument I think you should PM me.

You think I am biased, I think you are biased. So what? Nobody cares about what we think about the motivations behind each other's arguments. As I say, you should PM me if you think it's that important.

Nalz wrote: »

Chill a little.

I'm perfectly relaxed about this thanks.

Kroos is great and all, but I think it would be a disaster to play him in there alongside Pogba. Kroos is only okay defensively, even though he is happy playing from deep.

Weigl would be a far more appropriate German CM to be looking at. Although I don't think any one player is the problem or solution anyway.

jpboard1 wrote: »

Really??

http://www.rentadrone.tv/cnbc-live-stream/

That link isn't working. What was on the other end of it?

Next five games...

Leicester (H)
Stoke (H)
Chelsea (A)
Liverpool (A)
Burnley (H)

I'm scared.

Never build a house on weak foundations and I think Mourinho is paying the price for not clearing out the players that needed moving on. I can't see much improvement until this is sorted out. Mediocrity can have a contagious effect in any sport and we've got too many mediocre players in the squad. Clearing out these players during the summer, would have also sent a very strong & clear message to other players who may have an inclination to under-performing. Jose also needs to stop being a friend to the players and start being their boss. The day off he gives them, that they weren't getting under previous managers needs to stop. I'm also getting a bit sick of him blaming refs tbh. The better team won today and before that tackle on Martial, we could have been 2-0 down. The most worrying thing about the last three games is, we've played three different types of teams and each team was more hungry, more aggressive and the first to every break down than the United team was. That needs to stop, so the weeks ahead will be very interesting to see how Jose manages this slump.

Pro. F wrote: »

jpboard1 wrote: »

https://streamable.com/i6up

Working now?

Yep, working now. As I said in the other thead, you could make a similar - or worse - video for any of the outfield players.

Rooney is shocking. He has to be dropped. For club & country

bangkok wrote: »

like i said i wouldnt play him in a 2, it would be a 3 with herrera.

weigl is good but lacks the experience to play there if you include pogba.

Verratti would be my preferred option after kroos

That's fair enough, but Beno was disagreeing with what Headshot had suggested, not your suggestion.

I'd prefer Weigl's defensive ability over Kroos's experience myself. But we should be able to make a midfield that works from the players in the squad all ready tbh.

Jesus lads, ye do realise that ye don't have Kroos right?

Im afraid you are seeing the Jose who was at my chelsea last season.
he hasnt changed in years, blames everyone but himself, creates the cult of Jose

at chelsea he refused to drop players like Ivan and matic who a blind man could see were woeful (and still are)

to be fair, the board didnt back him in the market but even so, I think he has lost a lot of his allure and confidence and that seeps through to the team
Utd is his last big gig in england and already the defeats will be clouding his mind and judgement

theres still a chance of course but weve seen it before last season and the omens arent good

brinty wrote: »

Be just like us to get 12 points and lose to burnley

Right now, I'd gladly take that mind you!

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Im afraid you are seeing the Jose who was at my chelsea last season.
he hasnt changed in years, blames everyone but himself, creates the cult of Jose

at chelsea he refused to drop players like Ivan and matic who a blind man could see were woeful (and still are)

to be fair, the board didnt back him in the market but even so, I think he has lost a lot of his allure and confidence and that seeps through to the team
Utd is his last big gig in england and already the defeats will be clouding his mind and judgement

theres still a chance of course but weve seen it before last season and the omens arent good

Give him a bit like. He was a title winning manager not two years ago. This rush to write everybody off after a bad start is just insanity.

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Correct. This idea that our only way to play well is to buy up players in functioning sides needs to stop. Our whole team is under performing right now. Jose needs time and space to earn his coin and get them playing his way.

I agree, but he needs to sort out who his best 11 are and sort out the formation that we are using, be it 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3.

He also needs to make the big calls and drop the underperforming wage stealers.