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17 year old granted euthanasia in Belgium

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Not sure whether this is a win for freedom or sad day for humanity.

    Belgium allows 17yr old to kill herself.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11N09P?il=0





    Did you actually read the article?

    "To undergo euthanasia, the minor must also be in a "terminal medical situation with constant and unbearable physical pain which cannot be assuaged and that will cause death in the short term", the law says."

    It has nothing to do with depression, I don't understand where you're going with this at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Kilboor


    I don't think it was depression ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    read the article OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Some US states allow humanitarian euthanasia. I think WA and OR do anyway. Been a while since I bothered to read into it.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Disgusting thread title

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Disgraceful thread title. It was a terminal medical condition. At least get your facts right before you jump in. Deplorable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Kilboor wrote: »
    I don't think it was depression ....

    I'd guessed that much, was just putting some medical problem on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I'd guessed that much, was just putting some medical problem on it.

    You mean making up the story yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Disgraceful thread title. It was a terminal medical condition. At least get your facts right before you jump in. Deplorable.

    Just saw rage after readin 3/4 article, on mobile can't change the heading but literally stick in any medical problem in the title as that's what I meant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    I'd guessed that much, was just putting some medical problem on it.

    You think it's funny to take the piss out of mentally ill people and terminally ill people? Cause that's what you've just done with your nasty title.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I'd guessed that much, was just putting some medical problem on it.

    You think it's funny to take the piss out of mentally ill people and terminally ill people? Cause that's what you've just done with your nasty title.

    No I don't, the title was meant to be tounge and cheek not a pop at people with depression, it's was sarcasim/dark humour.
    Will I change it to cancer or would I be having a go at them as well.
    The thread was meant to be about the story not the title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,560 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    I'd guessed that much, was just putting some medical problem on it.

    So you admit it was an inconsiderate and inappropriate thread title.
    if you are going to comment on a very sensitive subject at least go to the trouble of fully reading the article and not make up thread titles with whatever you think fits in with your presumptions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    No I don't, the title was meant to be tounge and cheek not a pop at people with depression, it's was sarcasim/dark humour.
    Will I change it to cancer or would I be having a go at them as well.
    The thread was meant to be about the story not the title.

    You clearly and deliberately said depression and suicide. It was neither. It was a terminal illness and not suicide. The euthanasia was carried out by a doctor.

    Only reading 3/4 of the article is no excuse whatsoever.

    Dark humour? Yes, right!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Mod: Utterly ridiculous thread title changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I'd guessed that much, was just putting some medical problem on it.

    You could try reading the articles you post then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I feel like I missed out by not seeing the original thread title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    So you admit it was an inconsiderate and inappropriate thread title.
    if you are going to comment on a very sensitive subject at least go to the trouble of fully reading the article and not make up thread titles with whatever you think fits in with your presumptions

    I've it changed, I didn't make any presumption about the illness, pure click bait nothing more.

    This shhh there may be somene with depression about is a bit much though and how dare I use the word in jest, we can't be walking on egg shells, it's a major issue, heard of 2 locally in the last 48hrs, it's out of control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Mod: Utterly ridiculous thread title changed.

    In hindsight that's probably the title I should have ran with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    OP you gone done real bad thing.
    First rule of thread club read storyline fully before starting a thread about it.
    We'll forgive you this time but don't do it again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,102 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    What was the original thread title?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,831 ✭✭✭degsie


    lertsnim wrote: »
    What was the original thread title?

    "This woman had to give up the Internet because of her fat fingers, at first you will be shocked, then you'll be inspired"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Back to the issue at hand 17 is hardly a child and I don't see anything wrong with the decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Back to the issue at hand 17 is hardly a child and I don't see anything wrong with the decision.

    Your right but outlooks change, she may have had a completely different perspective at 27.
    I don't think 17yr olds have the slightest notion of what life has in store for them, you could apply that to a lot of 30yr old as well.
    I don't think it should be an option if there is any hope.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Your right but outlooks change, she may have had a completely different perspective at 27.
    I don't think 17yr olds have the slightest notion of what life has in store for them, you could apply that to a lot of 30yr old as well.
    I don't think it should be an option if there is any hope.

    Jesus Christ. Would you go and fuking learn what a terminal illness is instead of shltposting on here?


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Your right but outlooks change, she may have had a completely different perspective at 27.
    I don't think 17yr olds have the slightest notion of what life has in store for them, you could apply that to a lot of 30yr old as well.
    I don't think it should be an option if there is any hope.

    It doesn't say anywhere in the article about it being anything to do with "different perspective". It doesn't go into any detail about why the decision was granted, as far as I can see and, honestly, we don't need to know.

    A psychologist or physician gave the go ahead and the parents gave their permission.

    It has nothing to do with "change of perspective".

    There is obviously something incredibly wrong that a "change of perspective" won't fix, because I doubt any parent would willingly give permission to their child to end their lives if it was something that could be solved/fixed/whatever else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Your right but outlooks change, she may have had a completely different perspective at 27.
    I don't think 17yr olds have the slightest notion of what life has in store for them, you could apply that to a lot of 30yr old as well.
    I don't think it should be an option if there is any hope.

    I take it the term "short-term terminal illness" hasn't actually sunk in yet, yes? The implication is not that she might have changed her mind at 27, it's that she certainly wouldn't be -alive- at 27.

    Daft thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,560 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    This shhh there may be somene with depression about is a bit much though and how dare I use the word in jest, we can't be walking on egg shells, it's a major issue, heard of 2 locally in the last 48hrs, it's out of control

    One of the longest running threads on boards....

    Lets All Laugh At People With Depression

    The reason you got flamed was because the subject matter had nothing to do with depression, which I agree is a serious problem in this country, as is suicide. But that is a discussion for a different thread.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Dig up, OP

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    True that's the last thing a parent will do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Eimee90


    Your right but outlooks change, she may have had a completely different perspective at 27. I don't think 17yr olds have the slightest notion of what life has in store for them, you could apply that to a lot of 30yr old as well. I don't think it should be an option if there is any hope.


    The facts are the person in question fitted the bill of being in terrible pain, which would shortly lead to their death with no relief. Presuming she made it to 27, what type of life would she have.


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