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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • #1262
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    All her false statements as against all of Trumps in one day only! You seem to like ignoring the important bit of a posters statements.

    Trump speaks a lot more about the economy and the well being of Americans. The only people he is trashing are the politicians who have contributed to frequent gvt shutdowns. He said very kind remarks about senator Sanders who he disagrees with ideologically. He also made up with a number of GOP politicians like Chris Christie & Giuliani after the campaigns were over. He can move from being an adversary to becoming an ally. Plenty of Republicans, Democrats & Libertarians would back Trump after assuming the Presidency.


  • #1263
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Amerika wrote: »
    I'll see your list, and raise you this list of Hillary's lies...
    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/

    I'll see your list, and raise you Trump's.

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

    Oh look, it's more than twice as long.

    Face it: Trump is objectively less honest than Clinton.


  • #1264
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The only people he is trashing are the politicians who have contributed to frequent gvt shutdowns.

    Really?


  • #1265
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Really?

    Is he not allowed to express his views on a wide variety of issues! The libel laws in America are not the same as Europe.


  • #1266
    The_Mac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭The_Mac


    As much as I absolutely despise many Sanders supporters, by Jesus this election would be a lot easier if he had got the nomination.


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  • #1267
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Trump speaks a lot more about the economy and the well being of Americans. The only people he is trashing are the politicians who have contributed to frequent gvt shutdowns. He said very kind remarks about senator Sanders who he disagrees with ideologically. He also made up with a number of GOP politicians like Chris Christie & Giuliani after the campaigns were over. He can move from being an adversary to becoming an ally. Plenty of Republicans, Democrats & Libertarians would back Trump after assuming the Presidency.

    What about the Pastor in Flint. I thought it was American manners not to bitch a host who invited you in. But then again Trump wants to make America great again like the old days. When the gays would be bashed, women knew their place the blacks did not get all uppity, the military did not have women, (am i mistaken, not one of the people on the stage today was a women, does their bravery stand for anything, guess not when America is great again) FFS we all now what they mean by make America great again No Blacks and Women. If that's what people want they can vote for it but don't expect people to just sit and not take notice. Trump is fine to be fair its the people who support what they "think" he stands for that i hope there is a space in hell for. And remember when he backtracks on every promise that people think he made you have been warned. A man who was pro choice now pro life, pro Clinton now ant Clinton, anti Obama now pro Obama. You have been warned.


  • #1268
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Is he not allowed to express his views on a wide variety of issues! The libel laws in America are not the same as Europe.

    You said he is only thrashing politicians, Oscarbravo has shown that is clearly not the case. Your response is completely irrelevant to what is being discussed.


  • #1269
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    Suryavarman wrote: »
    You said he is only thrashing politicians, Oscarbravo has shown that is clearly not the case. Your response is completely irrelevant to what is being discussed.

    Welcome to the twilight zone. Where up is down, right is wrong, lies are truth and a comb over means a person is not bald.


  • #1270
    marienbad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Amerika wrote: »
    I'll see your list, and raise you this list of Hillary's lies...
    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/

    Is that the best you can co Amerika ? you give a list going back to 2007 versus a list of gaffes and lies in one day ?


  • #1271
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    What about the Pastor in Flint. I thought it was American manners not to bitch a host who invited you in. But then again Trump wants to make America great again like the old days. When the gays would be bashed, women knew their place the blacks did not get all uppity, the military did not have women, (am i mistaken, not one of the people on the stage today was a women, does their bravery stand for anything, guess not when America is great again) FFS we all now what they mean by make America great again No Blacks and Women. If that's what people want they can vote for it but don't expect people to just sit and not take notice. Trump is fine to be fair its the people who support what they "think" he stands for that i hope there is a space in hell for. And remember when he backtracks on every promise that people think he made you have been warned. A man who was pro choice now pro life, pro Clinton now ant Clinton, anti Obama now pro Obama. You have been warned.

    The GOP were called the war party and now with Trump that title is no longer true. He has made it abundantly clear he would not get involved in foreign ventures. His emphasis throughout the election has been on the economy and the poor state it is in. All very relevant to all Americans from all backgrounds.


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  • #1272
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The GOP were called the war party and now with Trump that title is no longer true. He has made it abundantly clear he would not get involved in foreign ventures. His emphasis throughout the election has been on the economy and the poor state it is in. All very relevant to all Americans from all backgrounds.

    So going to war to with ISIS won't be a foreign venture?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #1273
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The GOP were called the war party and now with Trump that title is no longer true. He has made it abundantly clear he would not get involved in foreign ventures. His emphasis throughout the election has been on the economy and the poor state it is in. All very relevant to all Americans from all backgrounds.

    He also said he wanted to bomb the **** out of ISIS. How will he do so with out getting involved in foreign ventures.


  • #1274
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    K-9 wrote: »
    So going to war to with ISIS won't be a foreign venture?

    That is not a foreign venture. ISIS use the internet and on the agenda for good old Trump is cybersecurity.:)


  • #1275
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The GOP were called the war party and now with Trump that title is no longer true. He has made it abundantly clear he would not get involved in foreign ventures.

    Rubbish. Absolute nonsense. He hasn't said that at all.

    He said he was going to go bomb terrorists family's. He said he was smarter than " the generals". He said he'd go after Isis and destroy them.


  • #1276
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    That is not a foreign venture. ISIS use the internet and on the agenda for good old Trump is cybersecurity.

    So you are saying it's virtual bombs, so he is going to protect America from ISIS with a good firewall?


  • #1277
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    That is not a foreign venture. ISIS use the internet and on the agenda for good old Trump is cybersecurity.:)

    What? Isis aren't "foreign"? Because they use the internet?

    Baffling.

    This is getting into the twilight zone.


  • #1278
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    That is not a foreign venture. ISIS use the internet and on the agenda for good old Trump is cybersecurity.:)

    I was looking for a serious answer, not a game of Call of Duty or something.

    Anything at all to back it up?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #1279
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    That is not a foreign venture. ISIS use the internet and on the agenda for good old Trump is cybersecurity.:)

    They also use chemical weapons and bomb vests.

    You're just being ridiculous now


  • #1280
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    So you are saying it's virtual bombs, so he is going to protect America from ISIS with a good firewall?

    He would follow Obama's policy on ISIS and take it further to include all Islamist terrorist organization. No more pansying about with the likes of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan who I have no respect for.


  • #1281
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    He would follow Obama's policy on ISIS and take it further to include all Islamist terrorist organization. No more pansying about with the likes of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan who I have no respect for.

    " by using the Internet "


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  • #1282
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    He would follow Obama's policy on ISIS and take it further to include all Islamist terrorist organization. No more pansying about with the likes of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan who I have no respect for.

    So to clarify he will use real bombs in a real country other than America pls he will use the internet. So bombs+ or if Apple is in charge "war s plus"


  • #1283
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    He would follow Obama's policy on ISIS and take it further to include all Islamist terrorist organization. No more pansying about with the likes of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan who I have no respect for.

    So it would be a foreign venture then, unlike what you said.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #1284
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    K-9 wrote: »
    So it would be a foreign venture then, unlike what you said.

    How would it be a foreign venture the US all ready are bombing these regions. ISIS is not confined to one region of the world. The preachers are throughout the Saudi funded Mosques. Dismantling them would not lead to a foreign war.


  • #1285
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    How would it be a foreign venture the US all ready are bombing these regions. ISIS is not confined to one region of the world. The preachers are throughout the Saudi funded Mosques. Dismantling them would not lead to a foreign war.

    So you are saying Trump will not go into any new foreign ventures? But any ones ongoing are ok?


  • #1286
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    So you are saying Trump will not go into any new foreign ventures? But any ones ongoing are ok?

    Except that we will expand the number of terrorist targets we are after. But it is somehow not considered a new venture

    This entire ridiculous argument is clutching at every straw on the way down


  • #1287
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    How would it be a foreign venture the US all ready are bombing these regions. ISIS is not confined to one region of the world.

    Um. OK.

    You understand what the word foreign means right? It seems like you may not...


  • #1288
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Overheal wrote: »
    Except that we will expand the number of terrorist targets we are after. But it is somehow not considered a new venture

    This entire ridiculous argument is clutching at every straw on the way down

    And the terrorists aren't foreign because they're using the internet and the US is already bombing them so we just need cyber security.


  • #1289
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    And the terrorists aren't foreign because they're using the internet and the US is already bombing them so we just need cyber security.

    Now I get it sure America invented the internet so the internet is America so that's it all explained now then.


  • #1290
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Amerika wrote: »
    I've been in Trump Tower in NYC... and it was. If they new one is better, then that's amazing. :)

    There is no hotel in Trump Tower.


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  • #1291
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    And the terrorists aren't foreign because they're using the internet and the US is already bombing them so we just need cyber security.

    The Sharia preachers are in the United States of America as they are in western Europe. If America cannot act against terrorist within its own borders than it has no business bullying other Nations to combat terrorism in theirs. Under the Obama administration their was a reluctance to classify Al Nusra as a terrorist outfit. It was also inconvenient for the Americans to call out terrorists because they have dealings with such organizations that carry out multiple acts of violence around the world.


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