2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

Hillary Clinton will be declared the winner of the first debate if she gets through it without collapsing or having a coughing fit.

Trump is currently on a roll but he'll probably blow it in the first debate.

Still, likely to be a very close election with Clinton probably narrowly shading it.

I think Trump could win the first debate.
There are things that go beyond what is said - charisma, Trump has charisma whether one likes him or not, Hillary doesn't have this in my opinion.
Charisma can take a person a long way when there are deficiencies in other areas.
Hillary will have to defend her record as secretary of state, Obama may say she is the most qualified person ever for the job, but her record would say different given the results of certain things she supported, she has the anti-Midas touch.
Both will play on fears.

Both have a lot to lose, but the debates could be riskier for Hillary than for Trump.
I expect Wikileaks will be playing a role in the debates too. Perfect timing for more revelations about Hillary, given Assange hates her.

A self proclaimed Libertarian Conservative and a Catholic.

Back to the distant past we go.

Nobody told Thiel that..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-peter-thiel-supreme-court_us_57d80d57e4b09d7a687f9b03

Amerika wrote: »

Well, if it came from the friend of a friend of a friend, then its gotta be true, right?

I particularly like the Editor's Note at the bottom of the ‘article.’ No bias at the Huffington Post, eh?

Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.

That's just factual reporting. Huffington Post announced early this year they would start including reminders about Donald Trumps record in their reporting in response to his habit of saying deplorable things and then denying he never said them, as if nobody had heard of the Internet or DVR.

http://www.poynter.org/2016/why-every-huffpost-article-about-donald-trump-calls-him-a-liar/394021/

Trumps latest attempt at cooing the public is the release of a "long form" medical note.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/here-is-the-letter-from-donald-trumps-doctor-weve-been-waiting-for/

Of course, if Hillary had done this he would have pulled the riot act, saying that's not enough information from her, what is she hiding, I have investigators in Hawaii they'll reveal amazing things they're finding amazing things etc. and the wild speculation would continue.

So let's apply the same to him.

Taking the same standard as Hillary health speculation, it's noteworthy that Crestor aka. Rosuvastatin is used to treat PERIPHERAL ARTERY DISEASE, STROKE, HEART ATTACK, and ACUTE CORONARY SYNDROME. What isn't he telling us? He seems to suffer from regular and acute bouts of memory loss too:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jul/06/17-things-donald-trump-said-and-then-denied-saying/

You heard that right: Mike "Condoms are too liberal" Pence is a 70 year old stroke risk away from being the POTUS.

ECO_Mental wrote: »

I see now that Trumps son is saying that they wont release his Tax returns because it will be too confusing for the electorate this close to the election??????

http://time.com/money/4495037/donald-trump-release-tax-returns/


So they are saying that they don't want the bad news of all his shady dealings. I am assuming and I cant be proven wrong (because we don't have any tax returns) that the Russians, Putin etc are bankrolling him also his debt is being held by Russian Oligarchs and Arab princes, maybe an African dictator thrown in there as well. Also he is only worth €50 million not €5 billion.

Can anybody of the Trump brigade on here show me evidence that any of the above is not true.....and can you explain why its ok for Hillary to have 30 years of tax returns out there and its totally acceptable for the Donald not?

I watched some of Clinton's cash on YouTube. The Clintons have their foundation for all their dirty cash.
It showed Bill praising Paul Kagame about how great he is. I have to watch the rest of Clinton's cash, but the Clintons get into bed with war criminals.
mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/20/opinion/war-crimes-and-rwandan-realities.html

I was watching Jill Stein on Fox News last night.
She was asked if she was the Ralph Nader of this election as she takes away votes from the democrats, and that this could elect Trump.
She said she didn't like either and would worry about Hillary Clinton having access to nuclear bombs given her record and how she wants to intensify the war in Syria.

B0jangles wrote: »

Jill Stein also thinks that the Russian invasion of Crimea is no big deal, neither are Russian human rights abuses, the truth is totally in the middle maaaaaan...

https://twitter.com/polly/status/776099209183453184/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

So... anything to say about the latest revelations about the Trump Foundation's extremely shady behaviour?

Shot yourself in the foot with that link. Here we have a prominent US political figure talking about the US and CIA supported coup and illegal overthrow of a democratically elected government in the Ukraine. I thought we in the west through the controlled western media was to pretend this never happened.

She says the US has lots of human rights issues which again is true. She also talks about sitting down and talking with dialogue & diplomacy instead of creating a world that's going to go up in flames. Give this person a standing ovation. Compare that to Obama and Clinton trying to blame Russia for everything making up false allegations as they go along. Jill Stein has earned a lot of respect from that speech.