Red letters on VW TDi

Little CuChulainn · 06-09-2016 05:31PM #1

I've been told that the red letters on the TDi badge of Volkswagen cars are an indication of the bhp of the car. Is this a definitive indicator of the bhp?

_Kaiser_ · 06-09-2016 05:34PM

No.. VW themselves changed what these meant over the years of each model and then you have the people who rebadged them themselves.

Only real way is to get the engine code.

GM228 · 06-09-2016 05:34PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I've been told that the red letters on the TDi badge of Volkswagen cars are an indication of the bhp of the car. Is this a definitive indicator of the bhp?

Apparently......

TDI = 100BHP
TD (red) I = 110BHP
T (red) DI = 130BHP

corglass · 06-09-2016 05:36PM

Everything is explained here

http://bfy.tw/7Z6D

corglass · 06-09-2016 05:36PM

http://bfy.tw/7Z6D

Alanstrainor · 06-09-2016 05:37PM

All it shows is that some pleb bought red letters on ebay.

kona · 06-09-2016 05:39PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I've been told that the red letters on the TDi badge of Volkswagen cars are an indication of the bhp of the car. Is this a definitive indicator of the bhp?

The amount of red letters is inversely proportional to the size of the owners brain.

130bhp laaaad

Little CuChulainn · 06-09-2016 05:45PM

I guess its more likely the car was rebadged incorrectly than registerd incorrectly. Just to be clear, I'm talking about a car that's badge indicates it is lower bhp than it is registered as. Just trying to make sure I'm getting what I should be.

CalamariFritti · 06-09-2016 05:57PM

There are VW cars that are 'officially' badged with red letters but it seems to be more of a vanity thing these days. According to this an 81 kw upgrade to the 1st generation TDI engine got a single red I in 1996. The 110 kw 2nd generation TDI engines got a red I and a red D and the Golf IV with 110 kw had an all red TDI.
We're in the 3rd generation now with these engines and I'm sure the red letters still mean something, but the article only talks about 1st appearances of these letters.

Edit: And these engines were in all sorts of cars from VAG. Audis, Skodas, Seats, VWs, did I forget anything?

Wailin · 07-09-2016 06:34AM

Well in the Golf mark VII petrol variants the 1.2 has TSI in silver while the 1.4 has the SI in red so it does indicate higher bhp.

maddness · 07-09-2016 08:09AM

Apparently all red means faster than a Veryon....

twin_beacon · 07-09-2016 08:17AM

GM228 wrote: »

Apparently......

TDI = 100BHP
TD (red) I = 110BHP
T (red) DI = 130BHP

I think that used to be the case in the early 2000s, but I don't think it is any more. Both myself and my brother had 130hp passats over the years, his was a 2003 with red DI, mine was the same model, but the year was 2005 after the small facelift, It was just red I. Both cars were 100% unmodified.

Lord Nikon · 07-09-2016 10:49AM

I think it has changed over the years. I have a 2004 Audi A4, it's a 130bhp, with a red I.

runawaybishop · 07-09-2016 10:51AM

Lord Nikon wrote: »

I think it has changed over the years. I have a 2004 Audi A4, it's a 130bhp, with a red I.

04 Audi a6 has silver TDI badge, 130bhp also.

Wailin · 07-09-2016 10:59AM

maddness wrote: »

Apparently all red means faster than a Veryon....

Apparently...

tossy · 07-09-2016 11:29AM

I had an S3 with Silver TD and red I so badges mean very little. :P

J.pilkington · 07-09-2016 12:22PM

tossy wrote: »

I had an S3 with Silver TD and red I so badges mean very little. :P

As fast as the Wolfsburg edition?

tossy · 07-09-2016 12:27PM

J.pilkington wrote: »

As fast as the Wolfsburg edition?

That's a whole other thread not as fhast no, the wolfsburg had all black TDI badges too - goes to further prove my point - badges mean nothing.

pajor · 07-09-2016 12:33PM

twin_beacon wrote: »

I think that used to be the case in the early 2000s, but I don't think it is any more.

I was thinking the same. The red I distinguished HP on the Mk IV Golf IIRC. But after that it was just shiny bits off eBay.

tossy · 07-09-2016 12:38PM

pajor wrote: »

I was thinking the same. The red I distinguished HP on the Mk IV Golf IIRC

It didn't

selectamatic · 07-09-2016 12:39PM

Don't forget the version of the arl 150bhp tdi mk4 golf that was simply badged "gti" from factory.

fancy pigeon · 07-09-2016 12:46PM

The more red badges the bigger the boooooooooo

ianobrien · 07-09-2016 01:40PM

One day I had called to a friend's house while driving the Octavia. The friends teenage nephew spotted the badge and once he saw the red I, that was all he was interested in. We has the car two years and never spotted the red I. 2011 2.0L Octavia, 140PS.

pajor · 07-09-2016 03:43PM

fancy pigeon wrote: »

The more red badges the bigger the boooooooooo

Like a pigeon. :pac:

fancy pigeon · 07-09-2016 04:07PM

pajor wrote: »

Like a pigeon. :pac:

Pigeons cooooooo

:p:p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUrGeuMh4EM

darragh o meara · 08-09-2016 10:43PM

Red letters don't mean much, they did very early on but nowadays they're no indication of HP of the car. My Passat has a TD (red)I badge but is 170bhp from the factory, the other 170 I seen when looking had no red I on the badge..

Special Circumstances · 08-09-2016 10:56PM

darragh o meara wrote: »

Red letters don't mean much, they did very early on but nowadays they're no indication of HP of the car. My Passat has a TD (red)I badge but is 170bhp from the factory, the other 170 I seen when looking had no red I on the badge..

Indeed, has anyone given a scuttery sh1t about red letters on vw since 2007?

shietpilot · 08-09-2016 11:04PM

I can't believe there is a 3 page thread about red letters!

Special Circumstances · 08-09-2016 11:21PM

shietpilot wrote: »

I can't believe there is a 3 page thread about red letters!

Whats your favourite humming noise? Would it be mmm-mmmmm or would it be mmmm-mm? The first one there, now thats the sound of a fridge humming and the second one, now thats the sound of a man humming. You never hear a woman humming. I knew a woman once, but she died soon afterwards. ;-)

tossy · 09-09-2016 10:25AM

shietpilot wrote: »

I can't believe there is a 3 page thread about red letters!

You should have been a member here back in the day, these threads were a regular thing and they got way more 'interesting' than this lol.

shietpilot · 09-09-2016 10:28AM

tossy wrote: »

You should have been a member here back in the day, these threads were a regular thing and they got way more 'interesting' than this lol.

I was

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