Red letters on VW TDi

Little CuChulainn

I've been told that the red letters on the TDi badge of Volkswagen cars are an indication of the bhp of the car. Is this a definitive indicator of the bhp?

_Kaiser_

No.. VW themselves changed what these meant over the years of each model and then you have the people who rebadged them themselves.

Only real way is to get the engine code.

GM228

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I've been told that the red letters on the TDi badge of Volkswagen cars are an indication of the bhp of the car. Is this a definitive indicator of the bhp?

Apparently......


TDI = 100BHP
TD (red) I = 110BHP
T (red) DI = 130BHP

corglass

Everything is explained here

http://bfy.tw/7Z6D

corglass

http://bfy.tw/7Z6D

Alanstrainor

All it shows is that some pleb bought red letters on ebay.

kona

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I've been told that the red letters on the TDi badge of Volkswagen cars are an indication of the bhp of the car. Is this a definitive indicator of the bhp?

The amount of red letters is inversely proportional to the size of the owners brain.

130bhp laaaad

Little CuChulainn

I guess its more likely the car was rebadged incorrectly than registerd incorrectly. Just to be clear, I'm talking about a car that's badge indicates it is lower bhp than it is registered as. Just trying to make sure I'm getting what I should be.

CalamariFritti

There are VW cars that are 'officially' badged with red letters but it seems to be more of a vanity thing these days. According to this an 81 kw upgrade to the 1st generation TDI engine got a single red I in 1996. The 110 kw 2nd generation TDI engines got a red I and a red D and the Golf IV with 110 kw had an all red TDI.
We're in the 3rd generation now with these engines and I'm sure the red letters still mean something, but the article only talks about 1st appearances of these letters.

Edit: And these engines were in all sorts of cars from VAG. Audis, Skodas, Seats, VWs, did I forget anything?

Wailin

Well in the Golf mark VII petrol variants the 1.2 has TSI in silver while the 1.4 has the SI in red so it does indicate higher bhp.

maddness

Apparently all red means faster than a Veryon....

twin_beacon

GM228 wrote: »

Apparently......


TDI = 100BHP
TD (red) I = 110BHP
T (red) DI = 130BHP

I think that used to be the case in the early 2000s, but I don't think it is any more. Both myself and my brother had 130hp passats over the years, his was a 2003 with red DI, mine was the same model, but the year was 2005 after the small facelift, It was just red I. Both cars were 100% unmodified.

Lord Nikon

I think it has changed over the years. I have a 2004 Audi A4, it's a 130bhp, with a red I.

runawaybishop

Lord Nikon wrote: »

I think it has changed over the years. I have a 2004 Audi A4, it's a 130bhp, with a red I.

04 Audi a6 has silver TDI badge, 130bhp also.

Wailin

maddness wrote: »

Apparently all red means faster than a Veryon....

Apparently...

tossy

I had an S3 with Silver TD and red I so badges mean very little. :P

J.pilkington

tossy wrote: »

I had an S3 with Silver TD and red I so badges mean very little. :P

As fast as the Wolfsburg edition?

tossy

J.pilkington wrote: »

As fast as the Wolfsburg edition?

That's a whole other thread not as fhast no, the wolfsburg had all black TDI badges too - goes to further prove my point - badges mean nothing.

pajor

twin_beacon wrote: »

I think that used to be the case in the early 2000s, but I don't think it is any more.

I was thinking the same. The red I distinguished HP on the Mk IV Golf IIRC. But after that it was just shiny bits off eBay.

tossy

pajor wrote: »

I was thinking the same. The red I distinguished HP on the Mk IV Golf IIRC

It didn't

selectamatic

Don't forget the version of the arl 150bhp tdi mk4 golf that was simply badged "gti" from factory.

fancy pigeon

The more red badges the bigger the boooooooooo

ianobrien

One day I had called to a friend's house while driving the Octavia. The friends teenage nephew spotted the badge and once he saw the red I, that was all he was interested in. We has the car two years and never spotted the red I. 2011 2.0L Octavia, 140PS.

pajor

fancy pigeon wrote: »

The more red badges the bigger the boooooooooo

Like a pigeon. :pac:

fancy pigeon

pajor wrote: »

Like a pigeon. :pac:

Pigeons cooooooo :p:p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUrGeuMh4EM

darragh o meara

Red letters don't mean much, they did very early on but nowadays they're no indication of HP of the car. My Passat has a TD (red)I badge but is 170bhp from the factory, the other 170 I seen when looking had no red I on the badge..

Special Circumstances

darragh o meara wrote: »

Red letters don't mean much, they did very early on but nowadays they're no indication of HP of the car. My Passat has a TD (red)I badge but is 170bhp from the factory, the other 170 I seen when looking had no red I on the badge..

Indeed, has anyone given a scuttery sh1t about red letters on vw since 2007?

shietpilot

I can't believe there is a 3 page thread about red letters!

Special Circumstances

shietpilot wrote: »

I can't believe there is a 3 page thread about red letters!

Whats your favourite humming noise? Would it be mmm-mmmmm or would it be mmmm-mm? The first one there, now thats the sound of a fridge humming and the second one, now thats the sound of a man humming. You never hear a woman humming. I knew a woman once, but she died soon afterwards. ;-)

tossy

shietpilot wrote: »

I can't believe there is a 3 page thread about red letters!

You should have been a member here back in the day, these threads were a regular thing and they got way more 'interesting' than this lol.

shietpilot

tossy wrote: »

You should have been a member here back in the day, these threads were a regular thing and they got way more 'interesting' than this lol.

I was

tossy

shietpilot wrote: »

I was

So you were there maaaaaaaaaan!

shietpilot

tossy wrote: »

So you were there maaaaaaaaaan!

Red dee red aye lad PD130 savage pull

Panrich

shietpilot wrote: »

I can't believe there is a 3 page thread about red letters!

This is a red letter day for boards.

Special Circumstances

shietpilot wrote: »

Red dee red aye lad PD130 savage pull

Lift! Lad! Anti Christ!