Neck or face tattoo's

SEPT 23 1989 · 01-09-2016 10:32PM

I don't really care what somebody looks like across a counter or desk once they are friendly and are good at their job

_Kaiser_ · 01-09-2016 10:59PM

Shenshen wrote: »

Guys, you are aware that you probably deal every day with people who do have face tattoos?
Permanent make-uo is just that, tattoo. Eyebrows, eye liner, permanent lipstick.
Same goes for people who get freckles tattooed on their nose and cheeks.

Just wanted to mention that, for a bit of balance.

Not really comparable to be fair. The type of tattoos being discussed/referred to are far from the more discreet type you're talking about.

As for the idea that not hiring someone because of their tattoos is discrimination/racism etc - a company can legitimately reject an applicant for any number of reasons and a tattoo won't be mentioned, but may well be a factor.

If you don't want it to affect your chances, keep them hidden.. that's just accepting the reality rather than idealism.

Pawwed Rig · 01-09-2016 11:20PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

As for the idea that not hiring someone because of their tattoos is discrimination/racism etc - a company can legitimately reject an applicant for any number of reasons and a tattoo won't be mentioned, but may well be a factor.

A company can reject you by saying 'I am sorry we will not hire you as you have tattoos'
Why do people think this is illegal? Equating it to racism is beyond ridiculous.

Ken. · 01-09-2016 11:31PM

Mod-Few posts removed from serial rereg. Sorry if it ruins the flow but any post quoting him has to go too.

Wigglepuppy · 01-09-2016 11:38PM

Mr.S wrote: »

it's quite easy to cover up a tattoo if needs be.

Unless it's on your face, hands, the top of your neck (and polo-necks aren't conducive to when the weather is warm).

The Raptor wrote: »

So if you were dying, would you think anything less of a doctor who has tattoos?

Not really comparable, as emergency treatment is not the same thing as hiring someone.

A more apt comparison would be "If you opened a clinic, would you hire a doctor with tattoos?" I think the opening question was specifically face and neck tattoos also, not just tattoos full stop; obviously most can be hidden.

Shenshen wrote: »

Guys, you are aware that you probably deal every day with people who do have face tattoos?
Permanent make-uo is just that, tattoo. Eyebrows, eye liner, permanent lipstick.
Same goes for people who get freckles tattooed on their nose and cheeks.

Just wanted to mention that, for a bit of balance.

There is permanent make-up, which never fades?

Plus, make-up, which women wear in the workplace all the time and are sometimes required to as part of grooming, is hardly comparable to a large illustration on your face. I like tattoos by the way, but if an employer does not think a face or neck tattoo is an appropriate look (and it can look severe), that is their prerogative.

Wigglepuppy · 01-09-2016 11:43PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Unless its a swastika or something like that Employers don't own your body.

Of course they don't - Jesus I'd hope not anyway!
They can however choose not to hire someone based on having visible tattoos if they feel it is not good for the company's image (it is not included in the list of grounds for employment discrimination). They are allowed to make provisions for ensuring they don't lose revenue opportunities - that's how businesses run unfortunately.

justshane · 01-09-2016 11:46PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Personally a big no. But if people want to get them, well It's a free country. I heard that the UK police are thinking about allowing applicants with neck and arm tatoos - I'd be against it for the police forces. Can't people have a tatoo in a discreet place?

In NZ I'd say Almost half the police officers have visible tattoos and it doesn't seem to make them any less competent at doing the job.

riclad · 01-09-2016 11:58PM

Unless you are an expert ,you won,t notice eyeliner or lipstip on women,
Face tattoos ,that are on the cheek, colored, red,green,blue stand out more ,and they have various patterns ,
Most women wear some makeup or lipstick or eyeliner .

_Kaiser_ · 02-09-2016 12:28AM

Wigglepuppy wrote: »

Of course they don't - Jesus I'd hope not anyway!
They can however choose not to hire someone based on having visible tattoos if they feel it is not good for the company's image (it is not included in the list of grounds for employment discrimination). They are allowed to make provisions for ensuring they don't lose revenue opportunities - that's how businesses run unfortunately.

I'd take out the last word myself. There's nothing wrong with a minimum standard in the workplace (most companies have a dress code even if it's not suits and ties) and it generates an air of professionalism and subconsciously reminds people that they're not there to hang out with mates all day.

It's also no harm to remind some people that they're not as "special" as they may think - as a recent example I was talking to someone hiring for an office job who said the amount of graduates who turned up dressed in all sorts was ridiculous. Some may think this irrelevant, but it immediately conveys an attitude of laziness, sloppiness and "don't give a f*ck"

Not an attitude you want in a potential employee!

darkpagandeath · 02-09-2016 12:30AM

Unless the job advert states no tattoos you have no leg to stand on.

_Kaiser_ · 02-09-2016 12:35AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Unless the job advert states no tattoos you have no leg to stand on.

In what sense? Tattoos are not a valid criteria to claim discrimination on. You would be the one without a leg to stand on in any case you brought.

I think you just need to accept the reality, rather than how you wish it was. If someone conveyed that sort of "you're wrong because I think so" attitude in interviews as well, then I don't think having a tattoo would be the reason they weren't offered the job - and that's from someone who manages a department and has recruited people myself.

Wigglepuppy · 02-09-2016 12:36AM

"It's employment law because I want it to be".

Shenshen · 02-09-2016 08:51AM

Wigglepuppy wrote: »

There is permanent make-up, which never fades?

Plus, make-up, which women wear in the workplace all the time and are sometimes required to as part of grooming, is hardly comparable to a large illustration on your face. I like tattoos by the way, but if an employer does not think a face or neck tattoo is an appropriate look (and it can look severe), that is their prerogative.

There is, it's tattooed on as I mentioned.
I brought it up mainly to point out that not all face and neck tattoos immediately would disqualify a person from every holding a job, I dislike generalisation. I know people who have tattooed freckles, and one person who has her earlobes tattooed (she's got metal allergies and can't wear earrings, so decided to do that instead).

As with all tattoos, there is a wide range of possibilities. And someone having a star tattooed on their neck at the base of their hairline is not quite in the same ballpark as someone with a swastika stenciled on their forehead.

Pkiernan · 02-09-2016 08:54AM

Specialun wrote: »

I know its illegal to discriminatate but it would be impossible to prove

Have you have these tattoos. Do you think they affect career prospects or is the world more accepting now.

Why on earth would you think it'd be illegal to discriminate?

riclad · 02-09-2016 10:48AM

I have no problem with small tattoo,s ,large tattoos that cover most of the neck or parts of the face are simply ugly .
I was at dublin airport yesterday ,i noticed that not one person there dealing with the public had any visible tattoos, or piercings at all.
Most companys have a dress code ,as part of the training it would be explained ,people who deal with the public wear certain clothes ,i dont go to my bank and see people wearing jeans and a teeshirt .I understand many jobs would allow small face tattoo,s .
Someone in an interview is not going to say ,i wont give u a job cos ,
you have a tattoo, no more than they,ll say to a fat person ,you
wont get offered the job .

Wigglepuppy · 02-09-2016 10:55AM

Shenshen wrote: »

There is, it's tattooed on as I mentioned.
I brought it up mainly to point out that not all face and neck tattoos immediately would disqualify a person from every holding a job, I dislike generalisation. I know people who have tattooed freckles, and one person who has her earlobes tattooed (she's got metal allergies and can't wear earrings, so decided to do that instead).

As with all tattoos, there is a wide range of possibilities. And someone having a star tattooed on their neck at the base of their hairline is not quite in the same ballpark as someone with a swastika stenciled on their forehead.

But I don't think anyone disputing that - they mean the very prominent face and neck tattoos. Obviously not tattoos that aren't noticeable!

Shenshen · 02-09-2016 11:00AM

Wigglepuppy wrote: »

But I don't think anyone disputing that - they mean the very prominent face and neck tattoos. Obviously not tattoos that aren't noticeable!

That's what I mean by generalisation - all the tattoos I described would be entirely noticable.
But some are apparently objectionable, others are deemed to enhance beauty. From an anthropological and sociological point of view, I find that highly interesting.

Pawwed Rig · 02-09-2016 11:33AM

Shenshen wrote: »

That's what I mean by generalisation - all the tattoos I described would be entirely noticeable

But they are not noticeable. If they are hidden (even in plain sight) then I would have no issue.

Ericdravancrow · 02-09-2016 11:37AM

Tattoos with wrong spelling are the best ones.

Piggystardust · 02-09-2016 11:51AM

I work in a highly corporate environment and have a full sleeve but I cover it by wearing dresses with long sleeves, shirts etc. Nobody knows I have tattoos and I'm cool with that. They look unprofessional in my opinion, I love them socially but I think they should be covered in an office capacity.

There's a girl I work with who has her eyebrows and lips tattooed on. Looks ridiculous. She also has her tits done in a very obvious way. She's 23 but looks ten years older. Her eyebrows are so severe. When did the heavy eyebrow trend start?! It's as ugly as any facial tattoo in my book!

elefant · 02-09-2016 01:33PM

Zxclnic wrote: »

That's one of the funniest things I've read in a long time.....even if you've made it up, I don't care!
Thanks.

Genuinely true.

He was going through passport control in Schiphol.
I was half wondering if his passport picture was taken before he got the Ninja Turtles mask or not.

cbyrd · 02-09-2016 03:04PM

Me either I think they look shÃ႒Â¬te. I told this to my ex about 4 years into our marriage.. he got one .. then another.. I think he has 9 or so now.. I remember him trying to convince me to get one, the conversation went something like this,
- would you not get one?
No fcuk off they're hideous.
- Ah go on...
Ok so
-really??
Yeah sure
- what kind?
2 w's
-what?
Yeah on me arse cheeks, so when I bend over it'll be wow

I still laugh..
Plonker

Knex* · 02-09-2016 03:13PM

If you get your face tattooed, you're literally making a conscious decision to forgo any semblance of an opportunity for a normal conversation ever again.

You walk up to a stranger with a big feck off tattoo slapped across your face, every single time they're going to immediately think, "Jesus, this guy has a tattoo slapped across his face. He must be ****ing mental". And they'd be right, you wreckless eejit.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 07-09-2016 02:41AM

Am I the only one who thinks they look really ****, not to mention really tacky, especially that crappy tribal tattoo which seems to be very popular now a days.

Speedwell · 07-09-2016 03:03AM

No. But you must have a fine life if that's the sort of thing you find time to worry about. MYOB.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 07-09-2016 03:17AM

Speedwell wrote: »

No. But you must have a fine life if that's the sort of thing you find time to worry about. MYOB.

I don't worry about it, I just think they look shoite. I'm guessing you have some sort of body art :rolleyes: judging by your response ?

Tom_Barry · 07-09-2016 03:20AM

I like them! I have 2, but they're not really in your face. I also think they look quite nice on a man.

Surreptitious · 07-09-2016 03:22AM

This topic is only horsed out every other week. Get them if you want, nobody gives a toss anymore what you do to yourself. Even the bird in Maccy D's is all over that sh1t.

Decent Skin · 07-09-2016 03:23AM

Hate them, particularly the ones all over someone's back or arms. They'd put me right off.

Can just about handle a small neat one on a shoulder or ankle.

Arghus · 07-09-2016 03:31AM

What's everyone's opinion on opinion on tattoo threads?

Neck or face tattoo's

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