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Dash cam thread (car videos only)

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  • #2402
    BaronVon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Next option so, present it to a Gardai station and make a formal complaint and ask them to log it on pulse and get a pulse ref

    Report it to Traffic Watch


  • #2403
    Danbo!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    SuperS54 wrote: »
    On the off chance this is still the dashcam thread rather than the cruise control BS discussion, here's a vid.

    What's that sound effect at 2:40 from? The "appear" sound. It's wrecking my head :)


  • #2404
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Danbo! wrote: »
    What's that sound effect at 2:40 from? The "appear" sound. It's wrecking my head :)

    zelda OOT on the N64 maybe?


  • #2405
    d31b0y
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭d31b0y


    It's Metal Gear Solid.
    What's wrong with you people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P5qbcRAXVk


  • #2406
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • #2408
    SuperS54
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭SuperS54


    Danbo! wrote: »
    What's that sound effect at 2:40 from? The "appear" sound. It's wrecking my head :)

    Didn't notice it until you mentioned it, then it was wrecking my head too! Thankfully the mystery has been solved.


  • #2409
    Kings Inns or bust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Kings Inns or bust


    Just to note, while I applaud people who report these things you need to be prepared for a day off work and your dashcam being seized for an extended period of time if you do manage to find a guard willing to take the report.


  • #2410
    2RockMountain
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭2RockMountain


    Kings Inns or bust wrote: »
    Just to note, while I applaud people who report these things you need to be prepared for a day off work and your dashcam being seized for an extended period of time if you do manage to find a guard willing to take the report.

    Why would they seize your dashcam, when you've already download the video and it has been long overwritten on the dashcam memory card? The day-off work to give evidence in Court is certainly a possibility, but it won't happen in every case. In most cases, if the Guard issues a fixed penalty notice and the driver pays the fine and accepts the penalty points, there will be no further follow up.


  • #2411
    Kings Inns or bust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Kings Inns or bust


    2RockMountain wrote: »
    Why would they seize your dashcam, when you've already download the video and it has been long overwritten on the dashcam memory card? The day-off work to give evidence in Court is certainly a possibility, but it won't happen in every case. In most cases, if the Guard issues a fixed penalty notice and the driver pays the fine and accepts the penalty points, there will be no further follow up.

    They need to seize the dash cam if the evidence from it is to be presented. Every element needs to be proven. FCNs will not be issued when the person reporting the issue is a member of the public.


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  • #2412
    shietpilot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    Kings Inns or bust wrote: »
    They need to seize the dash cam if the evidence from it is to be presented. Every element needs to be proven. FCNs will not be issued when the person reporting the issue is a member of the public.

    IMO, a warning would be enough. There's no point issuing penalty points and then the person having to pay more for insurance and so on when a simple visit from the station to the person's home would suffice.

    Good luck achieving that though. The law protects the criminals very well I have to say!


  • #2413
    Kings Inns or bust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Kings Inns or bust


    shietpilot wrote: »
    IMO, a warning would be enough. There's no point issuing penalty points and then the person having to pay more for insurance and so on when a simple visit from the station to the person's home would suffice.

    Good luck achieving that though. The law protects the criminals very well I have to say!

    Well traffic watch will happily have a word, in the appropriate way, with drivers. I reported a guy on the Quays once, my pet hate with professional drivers, stopped in a loading bay with the hazards on, forgot to turn them off and pulled out on me. None of the above being particularly irksome but combined very annoying. They rang me back to say after he'd got up the road a bit he realised why I beeped him etc. etc.

    However as for the points etc. I'll use myself as an example; pulled on the M50 for doing a speed well in excess of the limit, words had, let on my way swearing to be a good boy caught a couple of weeks later by the Gatso in Fairview. As my wife is fond of saying, I only learn when it hits me in the wallet.

    Anyway sorry for the ramble, I'm just pointing out that if you want to move forward, seriously with a complaint, you need to be aware that you'll loose the dashcam for a while and need to give evidence. I applaud anyone who does that - but it would have to be a fairly serious issue for me to go down that route. And while I don't wish to pontificate too much on the point, there are very good reasons why we have our particular safeguards within our justice system. The guards and courts service could be a little more efficient though I grant you.

    Edit: PS anyone know the loading on 3 points? :pac:


  • #2414
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,087 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Kings Inns or bust wrote: »

    Edit: PS anyone know the loading on 3 points? :pac:

    Zero.


  • #2415
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,929 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    Zero.

    Not everyone though.
    I got a renewel quote in the door a few weeks ago and it said 2 penalty points were €63 extra.:eek:
    I told them to hop it!:pac:


  • #2416
    Kings Inns or bust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Kings Inns or bust


    blade1 wrote: »
    Not everyone though.
    I got a renewel quote in the door a few weeks ago and it said 2 penalty points were €63 extra.:eek:
    I told them to hop it!:pac:

    I'd live with about €100 tbh, I'm on the wife's policy 5+ years no claims on a Fiat 500, both of mid-30s. We have a certain degree of separate finances which keeps her sane when it comes to these matters, which crop up fairly frequently with me!


  • #2417
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • #2418
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,891 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Why seize dashcam would the memory catd not suffice ?


  • #2419
    Kings Inns or bust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Kings Inns or bust


    allthedoyles wrote: »
    Why seize dashcam would the memory catd not suffice ?

    To be sure, to be sure. You might convince them the card would suffice, generally though you're average plod won't be engaging in a debate on the finer points of the Law of Evidence and Computer Science. That's not to say there aren't some very talented people in the Forensic Bureau, they just don't happen to spend much time on the main desk in Raheny (or wherever).

    The people that do tend to get as much as they can lest they get a flea in the ear from someone higher up or down the line.


  • #2420
    kirving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭kirving


    Without the camera at hand, and for example one with no GPS built in, a smart lawyer on the defence side could argue that the video may have been recording at 25FPS and then played at 30FPS for example which could lead to the speed of the car in question being overestimated.


  • #2421
    Kings Inns or bust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Kings Inns or bust


    Kevin Irving wrote: »
    Without the camera at hand, and for example one with no GPS built in, a smart lawyer on the defence side could argue that the video may have been recording at 25FPS and then played at 30FPS for example which could lead to the speed of the car in question being overestimated.

    That will eventually end up in my repertoire. You've been added to my list which includes Denny Crane, Alan Shore, Perry Mason and Matlock.


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  • #2422
    irishgrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    was officially told by 123.ie that wifes policy was increasing by €73 because of addition of points....


  • #2423
    Hal1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Hal1


    One from this morning.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KARHR-YOvgA


  • #2424
    2RockMountain
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭2RockMountain


    Kings Inns or bust wrote: »
    They need to seize the dash cam if the evidence from it is to be presented. Every element needs to be proven. FCNs will not be issued when the person reporting the issue is a member of the public.
    Not in my experience. I've reported people with video from a helmetcam and they've got FCNs with fines and points. There was no question of siezeing the helmetcam or the card. I burnt the video to a DVD and the Garda was happy with that. I had to mention in my witness statement something about the video being unedited.
    Kings Inns or bust wrote: »
    To be sure, to be sure. You might convince them the card would suffice, generally though you're average plod won't be engaging in a debate on the finer points of the Law of Evidence and Computer Science. That's not to say there aren't some very talented people in the Forensic Bureau, they just don't happen to spend much time on the main desk in Raheny (or wherever).

    The people that do tend to get as much as they can lest they get a flea in the ear from someone higher up or down the line.
    The lad on the main desk in Raheny is quite likely to be a poster here, with his own dashcam or his own YouTube channel or his own TOR server or whatever. The Gardai I dealt with certainly understood that siezing a memory card or camera two weeks after an incident had been reported, when the evidence would have been overwritten many times in the interim, would be pi$$ing in the wind.


  • #2425
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,754 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Deleted User wrote: »
    While we are approaching with a combined speed of about 150kmh, I won't be thinking too long about whether the door only opens 90 or could swing the whole 180.
    I'd be leaving a gap to avoid being hit!
    Kevin Irving wrote: »
    Without the camera at hand, and for example one with no GPS built in, a smart lawyer on the defence side could argue that the video may have been recording at 25FPS and then played at 30FPS for example which could lead to the speed of the car in question being overestimated.

    My understanding is that AGS don't try to infer speed from dashcam footage since it's a non-calibrated piece of technology.

    The capture frame rate is encoded in the movie format so that it plays back at the correct speed. While it's possible to edit the movie file to change the frame rate post capture, doing so would update the file modification date on the SD card which would render the evidence invalid I reckon. It would also mean that seizing the dashcam doesn't add anything to AGS certainty about frame capture rate since the dashcam setting could have been changed post capture. That modification may be more difficult to detect than a movie file modification on SD card depending on how the dashcam settings are stored.

    Open to correction on this by anyone with more experience than me.


  • #2426
    2RockMountain
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭2RockMountain


    josip wrote: »
    My understanding is that AGS don't try to infer speed from dashcam footage since it's a non-calibrated piece of technology.
    Yes, I agree.
    josip wrote: »
    The capture frame rate is encoded in the movie format so that it plays back at the correct speed. While it's possible to edit the movie file to change the frame rate post capture, doing so would update the file modification date on the SD card which would render the evidence invalid I reckon. It would also mean that seizing the dashcam doesn't add anything to AGS certainty about frame capture rate since the dashcam setting could have been changed post capture. That modification may be more difficult to detect than a movie file modification on SD card depending on how the dashcam settings are stored.
    In my experience, there was no question of looking at modification dates or any meta data. They took a copy of the file on DVD, and looked at the video content. It was that simple.


  • #2427
    Kings Inns or bust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Kings Inns or bust


    2RockMountain wrote: »
    Not in my experience. I've reported people with video from a helmetcam and they've got FCNs with fines and points. There was no question of siezeing the helmetcam or the card. I burnt the video to a DVD and the Garda was happy with that. I had to mention in my witness statement something about the video being unedited.

    Unless you're a member of AGS or you were doing it to your mates, you've absolutely no way of knowing that. It's much more likely you were fobbed off.
    2RockMountain wrote: »
    The lad on the main desk in Raheny is quite likely to be a poster here, with his own dashcam or his own YouTube channel or his own TOR server or whatever. The Gardai I dealt with certainly understood that siezing a memory card or camera two weeks after an incident had been reported, when the evidence would have been overwritten many times in the interim, would be pi$$ing in the wind.

    Buy a bigger memory stick, mine has about a month's worth of footage on it. Raheny specifically explained to me that they would need to seize the dashcam.

    I'm not sure why you're suggesting members of AGS in Raheny run TOR servers, I'm sure you're referring to legitimate uses for the service such as whistle blowing and not drug dealing and other such 'antics'.


  • #2428
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,754 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Kings Inns or bust wrote: »
    ...

    Buy a bigger memory stick, mine has about a month's worth of footage on it. Raheny specifically explained to me that they would need to seize the dashcam.
    ...

    Can you provide more details on this please?
    USB size, 720p/1080p Dashcam and fps?
    It sounds like either a very impressive USB or very low quality dashcam.


  • #2429
    Alanstrainor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,146 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    This chat has gone on long enough lads. More videos please.


  • #2430
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,891 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB7WtYGq_0A


    Can't really see anything much wrong with this video , but just to get videos back again here ya go !

    Just out for an evening spin .


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  • #2431
    2RockMountain
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭2RockMountain


    Kings Inns or bust wrote: »
    Unless you're a member of AGS or you were doing it to your mates, you've absolutely no way of knowing that. It's much more likely you were fobbed off.

    If he wanted to fob me off, he put an awful lot of work and time into it - coming out to my house for an hour to take a witness statement, calling me back after 3-4 weeks to tell me that the Inspector had decided to issue an FCN, and calling me back about 8 further weeks later to tell that the FCN had been paid so I wouldn't need to go to Court.

    I've been fobbed off before, so I know what it feels like. This was the real thing - and you've absolutely no way of knowing what did or didn't happen because you weren't there for any of it.
    Kings Inns or bust wrote: »
    Buy a bigger memory stick, mine has about a month's worth of footage on it. Raheny specifically explained to me that they would need to seize the dashcam.
    I'm grand, thanks. I don't want to keep an archive. If there is nothing interesting, I delete it straight away. If I want to keep something for the Gardai, I'll keep it on my laptop until I can burn a DVD for them. It works fine for me, so I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve with larger memory cards. One comment from one Garda does not make a rule or policy for the whole force. It sounds like your friend in Raheny doesn't really get how memory cards work tbh.
    Kings Inns or bust wrote: »
    I'm not sure why you're suggesting members of AGS in Raheny run TOR servers, I'm sure you're referring to legitimate uses for the service such as whistle blowing and not drug dealing and other such 'antics'.
    What I'm suggesting is that the average Garda knows about as much about technology as the average Boards poster. This assumption that they're all big thick culchies is just a stereotype.


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