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5ft 5 and 17 stone..

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  • #32
    Pecker31
    Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭Pecker31


    livedadream wrote: »
    my two cents for what its worth, less judgement and more help.
    its not scary, its not that she needs to lose 6.5 stone minimum, so how about until you rock up with your Medical licence how about we leave the 'helpful' judgementalness to one side.

    as someone who has lost 7 stone (and 2 and 3/4 pounds) its not stuff like that someone needs to hear.

    positive mental attitude Pecker, PM me away whenever you need it.

    Appreciate the support thank you


  • #33
    livedadream
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭livedadream


    Pecker31 wrote: »
    Appreciate the support thank you

    oh ps and without oversharing there will be nights when you will want to pick or have a snack thats normal, prepare your OH for lots of distraction sex. :P:eek:


  • #34
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Pecker31 wrote: »
    quickbeam wrote: »
    Pecker, you need to be 10 stone 8 to be within the correct BMI. You said you're "just over" 17 stone. That would be about 6.5 stone minimum you need to lose. That sounds absolutely scary!


    Also I know its scary that's why I am here ~ I didn't come here to be judged just wanted advise but thanks

    Oh shít, I certainly didn't mean for that to come across as judgemental. I was merely trying to say when you realise what a huge task you have ahead of yourself it can feel daunting, and that if you work out how long that task will take, and make a commitment to the task for that period, then it should be easier.

    I know because you can "be good" for weeks on end on then see only three or four pounds weight loss, it can make you give up. But if you realise that you have to "be good" for a set period of time (worked out by your current weight versus your ideal weight divided by the amount per week you want to lose), then you are less likely to give up.

    Apologies if you thought I was getting at you. Not intended at all. I'm just trying to give you the benefit of the experience I have being in a very similar position to yourself.


  • #35
    Pecker31
    Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭Pecker31


    quickbeam wrote: »
    Pecker31 wrote: »

    Oh shít, I certainly didn't mean for that to come across as judgemental. I was merely trying to say when you realise what a huge task you have ahead of yourself it can feel daunting, and that if you work out how long that task will take, and make a commitment to the task for that period, then it should be easier.

    I know because you can "be good" for weeks on end on then see only three or four pounds weight loss, it can make you give up. But if you realise that you have to "be good" for a set period of time (worked out by your current weight versus your ideal weight divided by the amount per week you want to lose), then you are less likely to give up.

    Apologies if you thought I was getting at you. Not intended at all. I'm just trying to give you the benefit of the experience I have being in a very similar position to yourself.


    No I understand thank you, I suppose I am very sensitive to it so take everything personal! It's very hard to read a tone in a message anyways. Really appreciate the support and advise. Thank you


  • #36
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    C3PO wrote: »
    For a year? Far better IMHO to allow yourself occasional treats - for me it's a few beers at the weekend, a couple of squares of 81% chocolate with lunch and a few plain (think Marieta!) biscuits with a cup of tea in the evening!

    Like I said, if it works for you that's fine. But treats are:
    - what got me in to that position in the first place
    - are addictive and I can't limit myself to just one
    - will make the results take longer.
    - there are non-food treats you can give yourself as a reward

    Sorry again everybody. I wasn't intending to come across as judgemental. Just giving the advice that has worked for me, in a very similar position.


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  • #37
    livedadream
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭livedadream


    quickbeam wrote: »
    Oh shít, I certainly didn't mean for that to come across as judgemental. I was merely trying to say when you realise what a huge task you have ahead of yourself it can feel daunting, and that if you work out how long that task will take, and make a commitment to the task for that period, then it should be easier.
    its a lifestyle change not something you do for a period of time. its not about being good or bad, its about balance.

    its been over two years now since i made the effort to make some changes and its easy now, it becomes habit, habits that use to include 4 o clock crunchies and cans of coke are now apples and peanut butter saturday nights are now a shared pizza instead of a whole pizza or 4 Chinese takeaways and beer.
    quickbeam wrote: »
    I know because you can "be good" for weeks on end on then see only three or four pounds weight loss, it can make you give up. But if you realise that you have to "be good" for a set period of time (worked out by your current weight versus your ideal weight divided by the amount per week you want to lose), then you are less likely to give up.
    yes some weeks you will see nothing move, but dont live and die by the scales they are a fickle thing.

    with due respect quickbeam, your issues sound deeper than just not making the right food choices, you talk about being addicted to treats, using them as a reward. food is fuel, its not there to punish or reward yourself with. best of luck with your weight loss but i would definitely look into some self love as well. focus inwards on why you feel like that about food.


  • #38
    SarahMollie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭SarahMollie


    One thing that helps me when I'm trying to loose weight is a measuring tape. It thrills me more to loose inches from my waist of thighs - plus also the scales don't always reflect your hard work straight away and that can be demoralising.

    The Body Coach (Joe Wicks) calls the scales the "sad step" and I think that can be true for a lot of ppl.


  • #39
    SarahMollie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭SarahMollie


    One thing that helps me when I'm trying to loose weight is a measuring tape. It thrills me more to loose inches from my waist of thighs - plus also the scales don't always reflect your hard work straight away and that can be demoralising.

    The Body Coach (Joe Wicks) calls the scales the "sad step" and I think that can be true for a lot of ppl.


  • #40
    jenn1984
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭jenn1984


    Slimming World seems to be successful - I have a couple of friends that have dropped 2-3 dress sizes from being on it. It's more of a lifestyle change than a quick fix diet you need so this could be the way to go.


  • #41
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    livedadream wrote: »
    yes some weeks you will see nothing move, but dont live and die by the scales they are a fickle thing.

    God yeah, they're the hardest weeks, when you've felt you've been "good" and deserve a loss and don't see any, or worse, see an increase. I assuming women see this fluctuation more than men because of our monthly cycles. I can reiterate that statement "don't live and die by the scales", keep the chin up, and continue and you'll see the rewards another week, sometimes a huge reward when you don't even expect it.


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  • #42
    C3PO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,840 ✭✭✭C3PO


    livedadream wrote: »
    its a lifestyle change not something you do for a period of time.

    Well said - That's far and away the most important message!


  • #43
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    livedadream wrote: »

    with due respect quickbeam, your issues sound deeper than just not making the right food choices, you talk about being addicted to treats, using them as a reward. food is fuel, its not there to punish or reward yourself with. best of luck with your weight loss but i would definitely look into some self love as well. focus inwards on why you feel like that about food.

    Junk food IS addictive. "Once you pop you can't stop" isn't just a slogan. Good food is fuel. Bad food is just empty calories. Most people who have a weight problem have used food as a comfort, which is what got them there. Disassociating that link between food and comfort is what gets me away from there. Thanks for the thoughts though.
    SarahMollie wrote: »
    One thing that helps me when I'm trying to loose weight is a measuring tape. It thrills me more to loose inches from my waist of thighs - plus also the scales don't always reflect your hard work straight away and that can be demoralising.

    Not for me, I see results far quicker on the scales than the tape. But it's useful to use both and see what works for you more.


  • #44
    livedadream
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭livedadream


    quickbeam wrote: »
    God yeah, they're the hardest weeks, when you've felt you've been "good" and deserve a loss and don't see any, or worse, see an increase. I assuming women see this fluctuation more than men because of our monthly cycles. I can reiterate that statement "don't live and die by the scales", keep the chin up, and continue and you'll see the rewards another week, sometimes a huge reward when you don't even expect it.

    again, can you stop saying 'good' and 'reward' there is no good and bad with food. there are choices. youre the one talking about weighing yourself each week and feeling demotivated by it not changing the way you want it too.

    you dont deserve anything, thats the point im trying to make and i feel like your missing my point entirely,you only deserve what your put in, and even then it might be running a faster mile or the jeans fitting better, not 4 million stone gone on the scale, because at the end of the day there are people out there who are 6 stone and not happy.

    maybe its because im out the other side of the hard weeks you refer too but i wasnt weighed each week, i didnt consider it a battle against my weight, my weight was part of me not something to be ashamed of or kill off, it was something i needed to remove from my body to be healthier, and i did that through no fad diet no killer work out programmes not extreme nonsense like no treats for a year, id rather die than tell myself i cant eat something specifically for a year to lose weight but then in a magically 365 days you can eat it and the world is right again.
    C3PO wrote: »
    Well said - That's far and away the most important message!
    years of therapy mate :eek: hahaha nah my dietitian drilled it into me.


  • #45
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Okay. That works for you. I just shared what works for me. No biggie.


  • #46
    SarahMollie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭SarahMollie


    livedadream wrote: »

    maybe its because im out the other side of the hard weeks you refer too but i wasnt weighed each week, i didnt consider it a battle against my weight, my weight was part of me not something to be ashamed of or kill off, it was something i needed to remove from my body to be healthier, and i did that through no fad diet no killer work out programmes not extreme nonsense like no treats for a year, id rather die than tell myself i cant eat something specifically for a year to lose weight but then in a magically 365 days you can eat it and the world is right again.

    Honestly you sound like you've got it covered! I'm a bit trapped in an "every 2 years" dieting cycle that I'd love to break.

    Could you PM me the details of your dietitian?


  • #47
    livedadream
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭livedadream


    SarahMollie wrote: »
    Honestly you sound like you've got it covered! I'm a bit trapped in an "every 2 years" dieting cycle that I'd love to break.

    Could you PM me the details of your dietitian?

    i wouldnt say that but i finally feel like ive got my **** together.. ive kept it off now and im happy where i am, my doctor said BMI wise im ****ed because im only 5ft but he's happy with me as i am right now, we will review in a year.

    Niamh O Connor I will shout it from the rooftops! http://corknutrition.ie/

    shes amazing i was expecting to go in and have her be like you disgusting piece of lard, start running until your the size of paris hilton and only eat rice cakes and celery, she is incredible (pricey but incredible) first and only thing she told me to do in my first appointment was to stop drinking fizzy drinks.

    simples. i could totally do that! replaced it with water.

    next time something else, then i got into better habits.

    simple effective goals that i was able to meet, yes of course i had **** months where i made the wrong choices or gave up but she isnt this whole i will weigh you each time you come in and if you havnt lost weight you are dead to me type. shes strict but supportive doesnt take ****e and is really nice.

    bikini waxes, haircuts, and diet advice, leave it to the professionals ladies!


  • #48
    SarahMollie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭SarahMollie


    livedadream wrote: »
    i wouldnt say that but i finally feel like ive got my **** together.. ive kept it off now and im happy where i am, my doctor said BMI wise im ****ed because im only 5ft but he's happy with me as i am right now, we will review in a year.

    Niamh O Connor I will shout it from the rooftops! http://corknutrition.ie/

    shes amazing i was expecting to go in and have her be like you disgusting piece of lard, start running until your the size of paris hilton and only eat rice cakes and celery, she is incredible (pricey but incredible) first and only thing she told me to do in my first appointment was to stop drinking fizzy drinks.

    simples. i could totally do that! replaced it with water.

    next time something else, then i got into better habits.

    simple effective goals that i was able to meet, yes of course i had **** months where i made the wrong choices or gave up but she isnt this whole i will weigh you each time you come in and if you havnt lost weight you are dead to me type. shes strict but supportive doesnt take ****e and is really nice.

    bikini waxes, haircuts, and diet advice, leave it to the professionals ladies!

    Oh boo, I need to stop assuming everyone is in Dublin. I could always reach out and see if she has a colleague more locally that she'd be happy to recommend however.

    I kicked the fizzy drinks about 3 years ago (I was a diet coke fiend!) and now have a sparkling water addiction in its place, which sometimes makes me gassy and bloated but I don't think thats whats causing me to gain weight.


  • #49
    livedadream
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭livedadream


    SarahMollie wrote: »
    Oh boo, I need to stop assuming everyone is in Dublin. I could always reach out and see if she has a colleague more locally that she'd be happy to recommend however.

    I kicked the fizzy drinks about 3 years ago (I was a diet coke fiend!) and now have a sparkling water addiction in its place, which sometimes makes me gassy and bloated but I don't think thats whats causing me to gain weight.

    im sure she can recommend someone, my GP recommended her to me.

    i was murder for them a can of coke or san pelligerino a day like, and i love sparkling water but ive to be careful coz of my crohns.

    i do think the food diary is great, another poster talked about that TV show secret eaters its amazing i hate the name but its amazing what you pick at without realising.


  • #50
    Bunny Colvin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    livedadream wrote: »
    my two cents for what its worth, less judgement and more help.
    its not scary, its not that she needs to lose 6.5 stone minimum, so how about until you rock up with your Medical licence how about we leave the 'helpful' judgementalness to one side.

    as someone who has lost 7 stone (and 2 and 3/4 pounds) its not stuff like that someone needs to hear.

    positive mental attitude Pecker, PM me away whenever you need it.

    The post came across as a bit judgmental alright but there was a lot of truth in it. 6+ stone is a lot to lose but if you're focused OP, you can definitely do it. See it as a challenge.

    One piece of advice I'd add OP is, cut down on alcohol. I'm not sure if you even drink but If you do indeed like a few drinks at the weekend then I'd look at cutting that out completely over a few treats or a cheat meal.

    In my experience, I lost weight much slower when I drank. It took me a good year to drop 2 and a half stone whereas I could have halved that time if I stayed away from alcohol completely.

    It wasn't just the empty calories that beer provides, it was the fact that a Saturday night session would completely kill my good habits on a Sunday/Monday and leave me tired until mid week. If you've 6+ stone to lose, you'll want to have as much energy as possible and the right frame of mind - alcohol is something that will look to take that away from you.

    Fair play to you for looking to tackle the problem anyway. Not easy to admit and best of luck to you.


  • #51
    Xopher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 ✭Xopher


    I too had this problem, at 17 years old I weighed 17stone close to 18. And night I weighed myself and I was so ashamed over it I decided then and there a change was needed. Over 4-5 Months I went from 17stone to 10stone 10 pounds.

    My tips that i used was;

    Treadmill- I spent roughly 20-30minutes every day
    Water-I replaced all my drinks with water
    Never got a takeaway for the period.
    Meals- breakfast would have been weetabix and orange.
    - Lunch would been something small like chocolate and fruit.
    - Dinner was chicken/fish or some meat with potatoes and veg, with the occasional change.

    And after I had finished, I felt alot better and confident about my body. Goodluck and just try to shake the habits.


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  • #52
    SarahMollie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭SarahMollie


    livedadream wrote: »
    im sure she can recommend someone, my GP recommended her to me.

    i was murder for them a can of coke or san pelligerino a day like, and i love sparkling water but ive to be careful coz of my crohns.

    i do think the food diary is great, another poster talked about that TV show secret eaters its amazing i hate the name but its amazing what you pick at without realising.

    Well I used to drink at least 2x500ml bottles of diet coke every day - was doing my insides no favours I'm sure. And then one day I just gave it up after multiple failed attempts.

    The last major diet I did was WeightWatchers, but I didnt like the dependency on processed, low fat food, and the fact that diet drinks were somewhat promoted. I do feel like I eat a lot of good, real food, I think I just have an issue with portion controll and a fondness for savory snacks.

    Edit: Oh and I also really like cheese and wine.


  • #53
    livedadream
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭livedadream


    SarahMollie wrote: »
    Well I used to drink at least 2x500ml bottles of diet coke every day - was doing my insides no favours I'm sure. And then one day I just gave it up after multiple failed attempts.

    The last major diet I did was WeightWatchers, but I didnt like the dependency on processed, low fat food, and the fact that diet drinks were somewhat promoted. I do feel like I eat a lot of good, real food, I think I just have an issue with portion controll and a fondness for savory snacks.

    trust me i tried weight watchers and was brutal on it, yes i lost weight but never kept it off, the whole oh a bowl of chicken and veg is this many points but a packet of tayto snax is this so you can have both, no put down the snax liv and have a frickin vegetable.

    weight watchers for me was like use up your points on jelly and diet 7 up or what was it, curly wurlys?? their three points! again liv no have an apple. its doesnt promote long term natural healthly food.

    but the tinfoil hate wearer in me thinks its done on purpose so you keep coming back.

    i still have a treat now and again but its that a treat its not a regular thing, i have stayed off the fizzys though, and another poster said about booze, i dont drink anymore.

    i run now and look hot as fukc so im happy, ill keep truckin with the normal food and keep my mind happy for me thats most of the battle.

    i also love cheese and wine, no more wine but i have cheese when i want it, fancy smelly cheese is bae :-)


  • #54
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Been dieting for a fair bit, 17stone - 14s 6p at moment, I have found that diet drinks such as seven up free are very good when you feel like a snack or something sweet.


  • #55
    Stephenc66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭Stephenc66


    OP the common thread here is a lifestyle change and lots of people here seem to have arrived at their goals on different journeys.

    My ten cent worth is that the journey will be hard in the beginning but as you start and begin to see the changes in yourself both mentally and physically it will become an enjoyable journey.

    For me in my mid thirties I lost 4 stone but this was a by product of getting fit and healthy. I found a sporting activity that I really enjoyed with set goals in fitness and skill levels. of course I had to modify my eating habits, smaller portions, more regular meals, better quality of food and many less snacks but no "dieting".

    Eventually the need to train took over from the need to eat when I was down or under pressure and for me that was they key component.

    Now heading into fifty next month I won't say that I haven't fallen of the "wagon" now and then but the important thing is to get straight back to what works.

    It will all come together and simple things like jogging up a few flights of stairs rather than taking the lift will at first be a big achievement (and it is) and then will become the norm.

    Stay away from quick fixes find something that makes you feel good slimming world, dietitian, exercise classes (these will all provide you with support which is so important) it doesn't mater as long as you start. It will be so worth it in the end.

    Best of luck


  • #56
    pumpkin4life
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Myself and my better half have been more or less on paleo (somewhere between paleo and low-carb high-fat) for 2 years, if you like savoury food and are happy to cut out bread, rice, potatoes, pasta etc. then I really believe it's the easiest to adhere to.

    If you like meat, eggs, cheese, nuts(in reasonable moderation), some berries then I think it's pretty comfortable.

    One of the hardest things at the beginning myself was saying no to others, thinking that people would somehow think less of you for saying 'no' to chocolate or a pint or whatever.

    Best decision I've made in my life by a long shot, some on here aren't a fan of it and that's fair enough, all I can say is that the results for myself and anyone I personally know who eats that sort diet are very good.

    Another fan of the paleo/ketogenic/atkins/low carb setup here. Went from being overweight to 10-12% ish body fat, been doing it consistently for more than half a year. I'd recommend giving it a go anyway.


  • #57
    Bunny Colvin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    livedadream wrote: »

    i run now and look hot as fukc so im happy, ill keep truckin with the normal food and keep my mind happy for me thats most of the battle.

    Me too, the running part anyway :) OP, no reason why you can't lose serious weight by this time next year. You need to set up a plan, stick to it rigidly and make the hard sacrifices. Once you get going, every week will get a little easier. There's plenty of support and advice right here if you need it.


  • #58
    Pecker31
    Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭Pecker31


    Just throwing this out there as I saw it on one of them weight loss programme. There is someone you can go to to measure your body fat and visceral fat and generally to see how much pressure your body is under. Also showing the amount of oxygen in your blood and blood flow.

    Is it a doc that would refer you or is there a clinic you can go to?


  • #59
    livedadream
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭livedadream


    Pecker31 wrote: »
    Just throwing this out there as I saw it on one of them weight loss programme. There is someone you can go to to measure your body fat and visceral fat and generally to see how much pressure your body is under. Also showing the amount of oxygen in your blood and blood flow.

    Is it a doc that would refer you or is there a clinic you can go to?

    its the body composition test/analysis i think your talking about...

    i got one done for my crohns due to issues with potential osteoporosis expensive your GP can refer you and it depends where your based... i had to go to dublin though.


  • #60
    pumpkin4life
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Pecker31 wrote: »
    Just throwing this out there as I saw it on one of them weight loss programme. There is someone you can go to to measure your body fat and visceral fat and generally to see how much pressure your body is under. Also showing the amount of oxygen in your blood and blood flow.

    Is it a doc that would refer you or is there a clinic you can go to?

    UCD do one: http://www.ucd.ie/sportandhealth/sss/laboratory/. I've never done it but it looks good.

    Some Boots shops have a body fat calculator platform/scale thing as well, won't be as accurate but it will be very cheap to do.


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  • #61
    Hollister11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Hollister11


    jenn1984 wrote: »
    Slimming World seems to be successful - I have a couple of friends that have dropped 2-3 dress sizes from being on it. It's more of a lifestyle change than a quick fix diet you need so this could be the way to go.

    I have lost 4 stone using slimming world,


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