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An NCT for humans?

  • 27-08-2016 02:34PM
    #1
    badabing106
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭


    I read somewhere that over the age of 40, you are advised to go to the doctor for a check up every year or two? Not many people do that?

    Would a voluntary NHT every two years after 40 for the same price as car NCT benefit people?. You could have government subsidies and reduced health insurance for anyone that partook

    Would it make people mindful of their health, the same way they are mindful of the health of their cars?

    Or is that a bit Orwellian?


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  • #2
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    badabing106 wrote: »
    Or is that a bit Orwellian?

    Yes. Both ideas so far.


  • #3
    machiavellianme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,653 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Another money racket?
    No thanks. It's not like our medical system is equipped to deal with it either. Every little Fender bender and fault coming under scrutiny and it's not as if you can buy a new part.

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  • #4
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The health of your car is more important to the state, so no national health test for humans will be made mandatory which would not be a bad idea.


  • #5
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    If we are going to continue with the car analogy, I think I'd prefer if people were given lessons on how to operate their body at a much younger age.....

    ......no point in having an NCT test if it tells you the engine is shagged because you've been putting diesel into a petrol motor for 20 years!! :D

    Generally, though, I'd agree with more, better and easier to access health screening. Although, there are some suggestions that such programmes aren't as efficient as they first appear.


  • #6
    badabing106
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭badabing106


    I think a full medical checkup today is about 500 quid.I think it is a pretty basic checkup as well. What if you had that for 50 quid


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  • #7
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I think all children should have their hearts tested, and maybe we could avoid situations where a child is playing a sport and then drops dead on the field.


  • #8
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Orwell would be shocked at what passes for normality in 2016


  • #9
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I think all children should have their hearts tested, and maybe we could avoid situations where a child is playing a sport and then drops dead on the field.

    Its extremely rare and when it does happen its usually early enough so the parents can still have another child


  • #10
    Mongfinder General
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Too many fat fcuks/Alcos/druggies in this country. Failure rates will be high. Remedial action can't be enforced because if you want to be a easte of space, you can be


  • #11
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,970 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Haven't been to a doctor in years and I'm 41 now. Luckily though despite my bad diet and office job, I'm actually in pretty good shape overall and haven't had anything more than a cold in decades. But then I don't smoke, never did any drugs and rarely drink anymore. Sure it won't last forever but I've better things to spend money on than inflated doctor's fees (as usual as a single taxpayer in this country, you get f&ck all back for your efforts)


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  • #12
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    And if you don't pass involuntary euthanasia ?


  • #13
    donegal.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭donegal.


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    And if you don't pass involuntary euthanasia ?


    what? like Rasputin?
    he was some man for failing the involuntary euthanasia:pac:


  • #14
    maudgonner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    Its extremely rare and when it does happen its usually early enough so the parents can still have another child

    Holy crap.


    Even for After Hours, holy crap.


  • #15
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I think all children should have their hearts tested, and maybe we could avoid situations where a child is playing a sport and then drops dead on the field.

    The sad thing is that this type of cardiac problem in children and young adults in oftentimes undectable in basic screenings. It's a sudden malfunction of the electrical activity of the heart

    It comes out of nowhere and the victims rarely show any symptoms of anything being wrong.

    Thankfully most sports clubs now carry defibrillators and this these have helped to save people in recent years.


  • #16
    Calahonda52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,236 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Jawgap wrote: »
    . Although, there are some suggestions that such programmes aren't as efficient as they first appear.

    I think because it creates a culture of worry in a lot of patients, especially those self diagnosed on the web, and the system gets even more clogged.
    Same idea with reducing the number of MRIs on lower back as folk get all worked up stuff that is not causing them a problem because its wear and tear but once they know about it they go all gaga.

    Having said that, I went with a invitation to have an MOT at 62 with my health insurer.
    It proved somewhat beneficial.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99715710#post99715710

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • #17
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    Its extremely rare and when it does happen its usually early enough so the parents can still have another child

    Jesus that's harsh.


  • #18
    donegaLroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    you can get a set of bloods done from about €25 up to €300+, depending on what you want to be tested for.

    Most people over 40 are advised to get their cholesterol checked once every couple of years. Also, for men the Prostate test is important, and the cervical swap for women... plus the breast screening.

    I think there is a test that cost about €160 which will tell you how susceptible you are to developing types of cancer based on your DNA.

    Its all out there if you look around.. no point on waiting until it hits the fan.


  • #19
    badabing106
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭badabing106


    .


  • #20
    RhubarbCrumble
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    Its extremely rare and when it does happen its usually early enough so the parents can still have another child

    WTAF? Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that if parents lose a child they can simply 'have an other one' in order to 'replace' the first one? Jesus.


  • #21
    dreoilin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭dreoilin


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    Its extremely rare and when it does happen its usually early enough so the parents can still have another child

    What a silly thing to say. Oh, my kid just dropped dead, good thing I'm young and can just have another one! :mad:


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  • #22
    Summer wind
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    A lady I know has 4 children. One of them was sick and had a cough so she took her to the doctor. A new doctor had joined the practice and was on duty so she saw him. He examined the little girl explained what was wrong and gave her a prescription. Then he said to the mother that the child's heart murmur was particularly bad on that day. It was the first the mother had even heard of the child having anything wrong with her heart. She had to have a huge open heart surgery and is doing well now. Imagine if the mother had never been told. How scary is that. The little girl was 3 at the time.


  • #23
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    RhubarbCrumble wrote: »
    WTAF? Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that if parents lose a child they can simply 'have an other one' in order to 'replace' the first one? Jesus.

    No I was messing, I suppose ya wouldn't pick up on the non-serious tone on your side


  • #24
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    badabing106 wrote: »
    I think a full medical checkup today is about 500 quid.
    Soon you'll be able to get a full genome sequenced for that.


    "Don't worry about your cholesterol , you're scheduled to die in your mid 30's" :eek:


  • #25
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine




    From around 25 seconds in.


  • #26
    Nemesis......
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 ✭Nemesis......


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    Its extremely rare and when it does happen its usually early enough so the parents can still have another child

    you horrible sh1tbag


  • #27
    Wigglepuppy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Orwell would be shocked at what passes for normality in 2016
    Like what? The term "Orwellian" gets seriously misused. No matter what anyone says, there aren't cameras all over the place monitoring our every move/facial expression for evidence of thoughts against the government (and then people disappearing).

    The closest would be people getting into trouble with the law for tweets harassing people, which is ridiculous, but it's still nowhere near as bad as what Orwell envisioned.


  • #28
    Wigglepuppy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    Calahonda52 wrote: »
    I think because it creates a culture of worry in a lot of patients, especially those self diagnosed on the web, and the system gets even more clogged.
    Any time you look up any symptom online, pretty much the only result you get is "You have cancer and you're going to die."
    To avoid unnecessary worry, don't web diagnose, go to your doctor!


  • #29
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Nemesis...... wrote: »
    you horrible sh1tbag

    Will you shush :P


  • #30
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    No I was messing, I suppose ya wouldn't pick up on the non-serious tone on your side

    I think I might be the only person who realised it was a joke.


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  • #31
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Grayson wrote: »
    I think I might be the only person who realised it was a joke.

    I kind of figured it had to be, it was so dark, but my initial reaction was, I admit, "jesus there is no opinion too inhumane for this forum". Shows you how desensitised you can get reading ah.


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