2016/17 Premier League Injuries & Suspensions

FHFC · 23-08-2016 08:57PM

CSF wrote: »

Don't agree with that opinion. This probably isn't the venue for such a discussion *cough*twitter*cough*

Obviously the offence is serious but charging for something from 4 years ago is mad and a dangerous precedent to set imo.

CSF · 23-08-2016 09:06PM

FHFC wrote: »

Obviously the offence is serious but charging for something from 4 years ago is mad and a dangerous precedent to set imo.

I don't think the time is relevant personally. Getting away with something at the time shouldn't mean a free pass when you're finally caught. And it's a very serious offence. It's legitimate hate speech rather than the typical macho loose use of certain derogatory words towards homosexuals.

FHFC · 23-08-2016 09:16PM

CSF wrote: »

I don't think the time is relevant personally. Getting away with something at the time shouldn't mean a free pass when you're finally caught. And it's a very serious offence. It's legitimate hate speech rather than the typical macho loose use of certain derogatory words towards homosexuals.

Yeah fair enough. And if the police were investigating it fair enough. But is it the PLs job to act on something he did when not in the PL or indeed the Football League.

Are they going to trawl all players social media for unsavoury things they posted when they were younger and stupider?

Maybe as he still allowed them to exist on his profile till they were highlighted I suppose it could be considered a current offence.

But we digress....FPL wise I wouldn't object to a wee ban!

CSF · 23-08-2016 09:21PM

FHFC wrote: »

Yeah fair enough. And if the police were investigating it fair enough. But is it the PLs job to act on something he did when not in the PL or indeed the Football League.

Are they going to trawl all players social media for unsavoury things they posted when they were younger and stupider?

Maybe as he still allowed them to exist on his profile till they were highlighted I suppose it could be considered a current offence.

But we digress....FPL wise I wouldn't object to a wee ban!

Yeah I think the fact that he still had them on his profile 4 years later is the clincher, I don't think the 'I'd forgot they were still there' excuse works with something so serious as genuine hate speech.

Pity they couldn't have found these tweets before the Liverpool game

24-08-2016 12:13AM

CSF wrote: »

I don't think the time is relevant personally. Getting away with something at the time shouldn't mean a free pass when you're finally caught. And it's a very serious offence. It's legitimate hate speech rather than the typical macho loose use of certain derogatory words towards homosexuals.

It is irrelevant. He said what he said but addressed it with a statement recently. He's allowed to mature and change his viewpoint. Get over yourself.

jive · 24-08-2016 02:27AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It is irrelevant. He said what he said but addressed it with a statement recently. He's allowed to mature and change his viewpoint. Get over yourself.

No need for the 'get over yourself' :-/

He addressed it but he still said what he said. FA will probably send him on some stupid course just to show they are doing something.

24-08-2016 04:32AM

jive wrote: »

No need for the 'get over yourself' :-/

He addressed it but he still said what he said. FA will probably send him on some stupid course just to show they are doing something.

Yeah you're probably right. No offense intended CSF. It just irks me when when things are blown out of proportion.

24-08-2016 09:03AM

He addressed it only after it came to light, though, its not as if he apologised out of the blue.
As has been pointed out, there is a major difference between using the "F" word in a jokey manner and what he's actually said.
Having said all that, the press release was good and that should be the end of it. Banning him for something he did while outside the league and, therefore, their jurisdiction is ridiculous and is just an attempt to absolve themselves of any blame in the whole matter. When the gay rights activists or any of the various 'offense magnets' kick up a storm, they can say look....we banned him, what more do you want?

The person trawling through his tweets / hoarding them 'til now doesn't come out of it smelling of roses either. Nobody does, really, bar the PR guy who worded Gray's press release.

eagle eye · 24-08-2016 10:02AM

CSF wrote: »

I don't think the time is relevant personally. Getting away with something at the time shouldn't mean a free pass when you're finally caught. And it's a very serious offence. It's legitimate hate speech rather than the typical macho loose use of certain derogatory words towards homosexuals.

This is ridiculous.

He said something when he was younger and probably pretty immature. He wasn't even in the football league. They have no reason to punish him in any way for what he did back then.

If he came out now and defended the tweets and didn't apologise they would have a good reason to ban him but he has apologised and for me that is the end of it.

FHFC · 24-08-2016 10:34AM

I think as pointed out earlier the fact that as a current PL player those views were still posted publically under his name until last weekend is a factor.

But I think this is a discussion for another forum really, and one on which there will be varied views, and no need to enforce your view on anyone else. Sorry for being involved in giving it oxygen.

CSF · 24-08-2016 01:41PM

Yeah no way am I going any further into this here.

FHFC · 24-08-2016 11:54PM

Karanka has ruled Fabio out but said needs to hear from doc about Friend.

Karanka on Friend injury: “I am waiting for the doctor to know how George is”. https://t.co/o1RvLvALfI

8-10 · 25-08-2016 01:39PM

Origi likely to be out of Spurs game for Liverpool based on Klopp's comments (Emre Can also)

Should mean Firmino starts up front now that Mané is back available. Sturridge also a possiblity but I'd say he'll start from the bench and it'll be Bobby up front

manual_man · 25-08-2016 01:41PM

Bobbin Firmino

Potential Underachiever · 25-08-2016 03:08PM

8-10 wrote: »

Origi likely to be out of Spurs game for Liverpool based on Klopp's comments (Emre Can also)

Should mean Firmino starts up front now that Mané is back available. Sturridge also a possiblity but I'd say he'll start from the bench and it'll be Bobby up front

Sucks from a Liverpool perspective, possibly FPL too, I have Mane in my team but I'd just fancy it more if Can and Origi were available, not really sold on Firmino as a ST, I'd rather see Sturridge up top and told to stay there in the middle rather than drifting to the wings.

8-10 · 25-08-2016 03:45PM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Sucks from a Liverpool perspective, possibly FPL too, I have Mane in my team but I'd just fancy it more if Can and Origi were available, not really sold on Firmino as a ST, I'd rather see Sturridge up top and told to stay there in the middle rather than drifting to the wings.

In fairness Liverpool played their best football v Arsenal and scored 4 goals while Origi and Can were both on the bench

8-10 · 26-08-2016 08:26AM

8-10 wrote: »

Origi likely to be out of Spurs game for Liverpool based on Klopp's comments (Emre Can also)

Should mean Firmino starts up front now that Mané is back available. Sturridge also a possiblity but I'd say he'll start from the bench and it'll be Bobby up front

Coutinho will be assessed today. Sturridge has a really good chance of starting

Benimar · 26-08-2016 08:27AM

A number of Liverpool journals have Coutinho as a doubt for tomorrow's game (hamstring).

He did very light training yesterday so there is still a chance he will play, but worth monitoring for anyone who has him.

Father Hernandez · 26-08-2016 08:36AM

Any word of George 'football' Friend?

Mr.Prodston · 26-08-2016 09:48AM

Mannone out for minimum 3 months. Torn ligaments in his elbow - David Moyes presser this morning.

F1ngers · 26-08-2016 10:05AM

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Mannone out for minimum 3 months. Torn ligaments in his elbow - David Moyes presser this morning.

Pickovic anyone?
Frees up 0.5.

Mr.Prodston · 26-08-2016 10:06AM

F1ngers wrote: »

Pickovic anyone?
Frees up 0.5.

Moyes said he'll be looking for a keeper. So whether it's ahead of Pickford or to keep the bench warm remains to be seen.

Ziegler1988 · 26-08-2016 10:12AM

West Ham United ‏@WestHamUtd 6m6 minutes ago
BILIC: "Mark Noble should be all right. We are training this morning. With Payet and Lanzini we'll also know tomorrow. Maybe one of them."
West Ham United ‏@WestHamUtd 5m5 minutes ago
BILIC: "Only if there is no risk will we put them on the pitch. Maybe we will use one of them on Sunday."

dsmythy · 26-08-2016 10:42AM

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Moyes said he'll be looking for a keeper. So whether it's ahead of Pickford or to keep the bench warm remains to be seen.

Maybe he'll try loan poor Harty boy.

manual_man · 26-08-2016 12:36PM

AK: "Fabio won't play on Sunday. George [Friend] I don't know. But I always have alternatives because the squad is really good."

none the wiser so

dsmythy · 26-08-2016 01:20PM

manual_man wrote: »

AK: "Fabio won't play on Sunday. George [Friend] I don't know. But I always have alternatives because the squad is really good."

none the wiser so

Hmm might just have to ride it out and get to international break.

manual_man · 26-08-2016 01:26PM

dsmythy wrote: »

Hmm might just have to ride it out and get to international break.

likewise. i may struggle to field 3 at the back this gw, but alot can happen over an int'l break and i want 2 ft for next gw

Father Hernandez · 26-08-2016 02:08PM

manual_man wrote: »

likewise. i may struggle to field 3 at the back this gw, but alot can happen over an int'l break and i want 2 ft for next gw

Ditto, have Friend on the bench with a nice starting 11 (8 at H, 3 Away)

Will need these 2 FT for after the international break

FHFC · 26-08-2016 05:51PM

F1ngers wrote: »

Pickovic anyone?
Frees up 0.5.

Marshall to Hull so no more Jaku.

Iused2likebusts · 26-08-2016 06:02PM

Any word on Jonny evans

2016/17 Premier League Injuries & Suspensions

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