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2016/17 Premier League Injuries & Suspensions

Ziegler1988

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull-city-lose-allan-mcgregor-and-alex-bruce-for-up-to-six-months/story-29498583-detail/story.html

McGregor and Alex Bruce out for 6 months. Could throw up another McCarthy/Henny situation unless FPL Towers quickly reprice Jakupovic to 4.5m. Although Hull's fixtures are terrible

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FHFC

CSF wrote: »

Don't agree with that opinion. This probably isn't the venue for such a discussion *cough*twitter*cough*

Obviously the offence is serious but charging for something from 4 years ago is mad and a dangerous precedent to set imo.

CSF

FHFC wrote: »

Obviously the offence is serious but charging for something from 4 years ago is mad and a dangerous precedent to set imo.

I don't think the time is relevant personally. Getting away with something at the time shouldn't mean a free pass when you're finally caught. And it's a very serious offence. It's legitimate hate speech rather than the typical macho loose use of certain derogatory words towards homosexuals.

FHFC

CSF wrote: »

I don't think the time is relevant personally. Getting away with something at the time shouldn't mean a free pass when you're finally caught. And it's a very serious offence. It's legitimate hate speech rather than the typical macho loose use of certain derogatory words towards homosexuals.

Yeah fair enough. And if the police were investigating it fair enough. But is it the PLs job to act on something he did when not in the PL or indeed the Football League.

Are they going to trawl all players social media for unsavoury things they posted when they were younger and stupider?

Maybe as he still allowed them to exist on his profile till they were highlighted I suppose it could be considered a current offence.

But we digress....FPL wise I wouldn't object to a wee ban!

CSF

FHFC wrote: »

Yeah fair enough. And if the police were investigating it fair enough. But is it the PLs job to act on something he did when not in the PL or indeed the Football League.

Are they going to trawl all players social media for unsavoury things they posted when they were younger and stupider?

Maybe as he still allowed them to exist on his profile till they were highlighted I suppose it could be considered a current offence.

But we digress....FPL wise I wouldn't object to a wee ban!

Yeah I think the fact that he still had them on his profile 4 years later is the clincher, I don't think the 'I'd forgot they were still there' excuse works with something so serious as genuine hate speech.

Pity they couldn't have found these tweets before the Liverpool game

[Deleted User]

CSF wrote: »

I don't think the time is relevant personally. Getting away with something at the time shouldn't mean a free pass when you're finally caught. And it's a very serious offence. It's legitimate hate speech rather than the typical macho loose use of certain derogatory words towards homosexuals.

It is irrelevant. He said what he said but addressed it with a statement recently. He's allowed to mature and change his viewpoint. Get over yourself.

jive

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It is irrelevant. He said what he said but addressed it with a statement recently. He's allowed to mature and change his viewpoint. Get over yourself.

No need for the 'get over yourself' :-/

He addressed it but he still said what he said. FA will probably send him on some stupid course just to show they are doing something.

[Deleted User]

jive wrote: »

No need for the 'get over yourself' :-/

He addressed it but he still said what he said. FA will probably send him on some stupid course just to show they are doing something.

Yeah you're probably right. No offense intended CSF. It just irks me when when things are blown out of proportion.

[Deleted User]

He addressed it only after it came to light, though, its not as if he apologised out of the blue.
As has been pointed out, there is a major difference between using the "F" word in a jokey manner and what he's actually said.
Having said all that, the press release was good and that should be the end of it. Banning him for something he did while outside the league and, therefore, their jurisdiction is ridiculous and is just an attempt to absolve themselves of any blame in the whole matter. When the gay rights activists or any of the various 'offense magnets' kick up a storm, they can say look....we banned him, what more do you want?

The person trawling through his tweets / hoarding them 'til now doesn't come out of it smelling of roses either. Nobody does, really, bar the PR guy who worded Gray's press release.

eagle eye

CSF wrote: »

I don't think the time is relevant personally. Getting away with something at the time shouldn't mean a free pass when you're finally caught. And it's a very serious offence. It's legitimate hate speech rather than the typical macho loose use of certain derogatory words towards homosexuals.

This is ridiculous.

He said something when he was younger and probably pretty immature. He wasn't even in the football league. They have no reason to punish him in any way for what he did back then.

If he came out now and defended the tweets and didn't apologise they would have a good reason to ban him but he has apologised and for me that is the end of it.

FHFC

I think as pointed out earlier the fact that as a current PL player those views were still posted publically under his name until last weekend is a factor.

But I think this is a discussion for another forum really, and one on which there will be varied views, and no need to enforce your view on anyone else. Sorry for being involved in giving it oxygen.

CSF

Yeah no way am I going any further into this here.

FHFC

Karanka has ruled Fabio out but said needs to hear from doc about Friend.

Karanka on Friend injury: “I am waiting for the doctor to know how George is”. https://t.co/o1RvLvALfI

8-10

Origi likely to be out of Spurs game for Liverpool based on Klopp's comments (Emre Can also)

Should mean Firmino starts up front now that Mané is back available. Sturridge also a possiblity but I'd say he'll start from the bench and it'll be Bobby up front

manual_man

Bobbin Firmino

Potential Underachiever

8-10 wrote: »

Origi likely to be out of Spurs game for Liverpool based on Klopp's comments (Emre Can also)

Should mean Firmino starts up front now that Mané is back available. Sturridge also a possiblity but I'd say he'll start from the bench and it'll be Bobby up front

Sucks from a Liverpool perspective, possibly FPL too, I have Mane in my team but I'd just fancy it more if Can and Origi were available, not really sold on Firmino as a ST, I'd rather see Sturridge up top and told to stay there in the middle rather than drifting to the wings.

8-10

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Sucks from a Liverpool perspective, possibly FPL too, I have Mane in my team but I'd just fancy it more if Can and Origi were available, not really sold on Firmino as a ST, I'd rather see Sturridge up top and told to stay there in the middle rather than drifting to the wings.

In fairness Liverpool played their best football v Arsenal and scored 4 goals while Origi and Can were both on the bench

8-10

8-10 wrote: »

Origi likely to be out of Spurs game for Liverpool based on Klopp's comments (Emre Can also)

Should mean Firmino starts up front now that Mané is back available. Sturridge also a possiblity but I'd say he'll start from the bench and it'll be Bobby up front

Coutinho will be assessed today. Sturridge has a really good chance of starting

Benimar

A number of Liverpool journals have Coutinho as a doubt for tomorrow's game (hamstring).

He did very light training yesterday so there is still a chance he will play, but worth monitoring for anyone who has him.

Father Hernandez

Any word of George 'football' Friend?

Mr.Prodston

Mannone out for minimum 3 months. Torn ligaments in his elbow - David Moyes presser this morning.

F1ngers

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Mannone out for minimum 3 months. Torn ligaments in his elbow - David Moyes presser this morning.

Pickovic anyone?
Frees up 0.5.

Mr.Prodston

F1ngers wrote: »

Pickovic anyone?
Frees up 0.5.

Moyes said he'll be looking for a keeper. So whether it's ahead of Pickford or to keep the bench warm remains to be seen.

Ziegler1988

West Ham United ‏@WestHamUtd 6m6 minutes ago
BILIC: "Mark Noble should be all right. We are training this morning. With Payet and Lanzini we'll also know tomorrow. Maybe one of them."
West Ham United ‏@WestHamUtd 5m5 minutes ago
BILIC: "Only if there is no risk will we put them on the pitch. Maybe we will use one of them on Sunday."

dsmythy

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Moyes said he'll be looking for a keeper. So whether it's ahead of Pickford or to keep the bench warm remains to be seen.

Maybe he'll try loan poor Harty boy.

manual_man

AK: "Fabio won't play on Sunday. George [Friend] I don't know. But I always have alternatives because the squad is really good."

none the wiser so

dsmythy

manual_man wrote: »

AK: "Fabio won't play on Sunday. George [Friend] I don't know. But I always have alternatives because the squad is really good."

none the wiser so

Hmm might just have to ride it out and get to international break.

manual_man

dsmythy wrote: »

Hmm might just have to ride it out and get to international break.

likewise. i may struggle to field 3 at the back this gw, but alot can happen over an int'l break and i want 2 ft for next gw

Father Hernandez

manual_man wrote: »

likewise. i may struggle to field 3 at the back this gw, but alot can happen over an int'l break and i want 2 ft for next gw

Ditto, have Friend on the bench with a nice starting 11 (8 at H, 3 Away)

Will need these 2 FT for after the international break

FHFC

F1ngers wrote: »

Pickovic anyone?
Frees up 0.5.

Marshall to Hull so no more Jaku.

Iused2likebusts

Any word on Jonny evans