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"The famine's over go home"

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  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I agree Candie but I do think there's a rise in anti-immigrant feeling post Brexit.

    I know there is from experience, I'm just making the point that whoever spray painted that probably doesn't have a notion about the famine. It's probably a football rivalry thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    There would have been no Irish Diaspora if that was the case. Most people emigrating from home do so because of lack of money and opportunities to get it.

    You can apply for jobs in that country without moving to that country. If you are offered the job then you will be allowed to immigrate. Fairly simple and straight forward.

    And part of my post was saying that any country can restrict the amount of emigration per year. So when the country hits a hard time then they can significantly reduce this amount so that the existing population has better access to jobs etc.

    A mass exodus of any country during a hard time does more damage than good to that country. It loses vital skills that the government spent a lot of money educating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    A friend of mine was visiting his brother in England in the 80s. There was some anti-Irish and anti-black graffiti on the walls near where he was staying so after a few drinks, one of the plastic Paddies in the group got brave and wrote some anti-English, anti-royal family graffiti. The lads from council were around in no time to clear it off...but left the anti-Irish and anti-black graffiti where it was.

    My friend thought that was quite funny, as it would have been easier to clean the whole lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,635 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I agree Candie but I do think there's a rise in anti-immigrant feeling post Brexit.

    I think the rise in the "media's" reporting of it has risen exponentially, far outweighing any actual increase.

    The type of brainless graffiti has been around for donkeys years and never reported upon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Candie wrote: »
    I saw nothing but kindness and fun in any of the Scots I know or have ever met, love the Scots.

    It only takes one eejit to spray paint something they might not even understand on a wall.

    Sure that eejit isn't even a true Scotsman ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    smash wrote: »
    It's gas how England invaded half the world and then complained about immigration.

    Isn't Glasgow in Scotland...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Roger Mellie Man on the Telly


    This could all have been prevented if only the lads at the time could've gotten their hands on some copper phosphate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭doolox


    Otherwise known as bluestone. Phytoftera Infestans was the blight that killed the lumper potato which fed 25% of Ireland population in the 1840's. The cure was to spray with copper Sulphate solution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    It's a line from the charming musical ditty known as The Famine Song sung by Rangers supporters.

    It's.not been song by Rangers fans anymore and hasn't been for a few years. Whoever wrote it was a sad and pathetic human being it was also do e in retaliation for HaHa The 66 being sprayed on walls at Ibrox. Whoever finds anything amusing or indeed feels it's the right thing to do wants a slap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    What I found particularly funny about the immigration debate as part of Brexit was that there are over a million British citizens living in Spain (made a whole lot easier thanks to the EU) and a large amount of them make no effort to learn the language or integrate into the culture. They hang around with other British citizens and go to pubs owned by British citizens with British staff and a majority British clientele and generally live their lives as if they were in the UK.

    Yet, anyone who comes to the UK and does similar is giving a bollicking for not integrating. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Yet, anyone who comes to the UK and does similar is giving a bollicking for not integrating. :rolleyes:

    The main complaint regarding "not integrating" are from cultures that are very different from British and they try and impose their values on British people rather than adjusting to the British way of life.

    Simple example is a guy at work complaining to management that a free company BBQ wasn't halal and they they should have bought halal food because now he couldnt eat any of it.

    And to be fair, the majority of British in Spain are retired old people. Cant teach an old dog new tricks as they say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    razorblunt wrote: »
    The plantation has ground to a halt too lads, pass the message on.

    I wouldn't see this as anything further than Rangers "fans". Both Celtic and Rangers have idiots that engage in all this stuff, nothing to do with religion, just a learned behaviour from the cretins they call parents who dragged them up.

    I live in Scotland and haven't had any issues.

    Really? What anti-Protestant actions have Celtic fans been involved in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    PARlance wrote: »
    I think the rise in the "media's" reporting of it has risen exponentially, far outweighing any actual increase.

    The type of brainless graffiti has been around for donkeys years and never reported upon.

    It's not just the graffiti though. A lot of immigrants here have said they feel less welcome. You think they wouldn't have talked about it pre-Brexit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    It's not just the graffiti though. A lot of immigrants here have said they feel less welcome. You think they wouldn't have talked about it pre-Brexit?

    As would any immigrant in a debate largely based on immigration.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    smash wrote: »
    It's gas how England invaded half the world and then complained about immigration.

    Should we use a similar line next time someone on boards complains about immigration in to Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    There is without doubt a double standard when it comes to Loyalist fans of football clubs & Republican ones. Loyalists sing about the famine, being up their necks in fenian blood, about the "gallant" butchers. Can you imagine if Celtic fans sang about the brimingham pub bombings, you would never hear the end of it and rightfully so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    Should we use a similar line next time someone on boards complains about immigration in to Ireland?

    Ah yes, all those former colonies of the Irish empire must be really pissed at us.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is without doubt a double standard when it comes to Loyalist fans of football clubs & Republican ones. Loyalists sing about the famine, being up their necks in fenian blood, about the "gallant" butchers. Can you imagine if Celtic fans sang about the brimingham pub bombings, you would never hear the end of it and rightfully so.

    Bigots and cowards are always braver on their 'home' turf when they have numbers on their side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Ah yes, all those former colonies of the Irish empire must be really pissed at us.

    The Irish have done their fair share of emmigrating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Can you imagine if Celtic fans sang about the brimingham pub bombings, you would never hear the end of it and rightfully so.

    Or the Woolwich pub bombing......


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    The Irish have done their fair share of emmigrating.

    There's a bit of a difference between emigration and invasion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Creol1


    The famine is over, it's time to go home

    You don't see a comma included in spray-painted messages on walls too often!
    Jawgap wrote: »
    Nobody from Glasgow wrote that - the spelling is too good:D

    Plus who the fúck punctuates graffiti!

    EDIT: if it had been a Glaswegian, it would've read "Git tae fook, ya Paddy basturds!!!"

    If they were going to punctuate it, a pity they didn't punctuate it correctly! A colon or semi-colon would have been acceptable, but not a comma.

    Graffito with a semi-colon: that'll be the day!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    There's a bit of a difference between emigration and invasion.

    Semantics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    There is without doubt a double standard when it comes to Loyalist fans of football clubs & Republican ones. Loyalists sing about the famine, being up their necks in fenian blood, about the "gallant" butchers. Can you imagine if Celtic fans sang about the brimingham pub bombings, you would never hear the end of it and rightfully so.

    Well that's a load of b0llocks.

    Some Celtic supporters sing about the 'RA and engage in the exact same sectarian nonsense.

    There are idiots on both sides.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Semantics.

    Not really fella.

    Travelling to a different country to work is one thing, travelling there to take it over is quite obviously another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭indioblack


    smash wrote: »
    It's gas how England invaded half the world and then complained about immigration.
    Only half the world?
    A couple of years ago it was 90%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    Every country has arseholes in it, it's if it escalates past graffiti you have a problem.
    There's a bit of a difference between emigration and invasion.
    Semantics.
    Interaction of the day. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Creol1


    You can't infer that Brexit is causing anti-Irish sentiment from one incident like this. Brexit really has no bearing on Irish emigration to the UK because visa-free travel will continue regardless of how Brexit is negotiated.
    Papers are just paying attention of issues that already existed and blaming the brexit. Im 50/50 on the brexit situation which is why i chose not to vote.

    If I were in that situation, I would've tossed a coin but still voted.
    What I found particularly funny about the immigration debate as part of Brexit was that there are over a million British citizens living in Spain (made a whole lot easier thanks to the EU) and a large amount of them make no effort to learn the language or integrate into the culture. They hang around with other British citizens and go to pubs owned by British citizens with British staff and a majority British clientele and generally live their lives as if they were in the UK.

    Yet, anyone who comes to the UK and does similar is giving a bollicking for not integrating. :rolleyes:

    Nigel Farage was asked by a caller on a radio show about immigrants in the UK not being able to speak English as if in agreement with Farage before confronting Farage about his inability to speak French despite spending 17 years in France as an MEP!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Not really fella.

    Travelling to a different country to work is one thing, travelling there to take it over is quite obviously another.

    The Irish have been emmigrating for centuries and in their millions. So surely they can't complain about a handful of Nigerians coming here. No?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    The Irish have done their fair share of emmigrating.

    Fred there's a major difference between emigration and colonisation.


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