"The famine's over go home"

steddyeddy

Sprayed on a school wall in Glasgow. Since Brexit there's been a steep rise in racism and hate crimes around the UK. I live here and haven't heard anything negative at all. A colleague is Muslim and has had things shouted at him and his kids while picking them up from school. The same seems to be happening in Ireland as evident by anti muslim league or whatever crap they're calling themselves now. Are things getting worse?

http://www.joe.ie/news/anti-irish-graffiti-in-glasgow-is-being-treated-as-a-hate-crime/557898

Glasgow police are treating as a hate crime the appearance of anti-Irish graffiti on the wall of a Catholic school in the city.


The message, spray-painted in red on St Aloysius’ College in Glasgow,
read "The famine is over, it's time to go home."

Police were called to the scene on Sunday evening and confirmed that they
believed the message to be of a 'sectarian nature.'

According to Glasgow Live, the police have said "The incident is being
treated as a hate crime and enquiries are ongoing."

Photos of the graffiti have appeared on social media, and drawn much
criticism.

smash

It's gas how England invaded half the world and then complained about immigration.

Arsemageddon

It's a line from the charming musical ditty known as The Famine Song sung by Rangers supporters.

steddyeddy

smash wrote: »

It's gas how England invaded half the world and then complained about immigration.

It's gas how the guys who wrote that have Scottish cousins who's descendants are claiming sole ownership over the north of Ireland. Imagine if Irish immigrants did the sae in England or Scotland?

razorblunt

The plantation has ground to a halt too lads, pass the message on.

I wouldn't see this as anything further than Rangers "fans". Both Celtic and Rangers have idiots that engage in all this stuff, nothing to do with religion, just a learned behaviour from the cretins they call parents who dragged them up.

I live in Scotland and haven't had any issues.

conorhal

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conorhal

steddyeddy wrote: »

Sprayed on a school wall in Glasgow. Since Brexit there's been a steep rise in racism and hate crimes around the UK. I live here and haven't heard anything negative at all. A colleague is Muslim and has had things shouted at him and his kids while picking them up from school. The same seems to be happening in Ireland as evident by anti muslim league or whatever crap they're calling themselves now. Are things getting worse?

http://www.joe.ie/news/anti-irish-graffiti-in-glasgow-is-being-treated-as-a-hate-crime/557898

'Brexit Ate My Hamster'


FFS, Protestant sectarianism in Scotland predates brexit by, oh, a couple of hundred years at this stage. I'm getting more then a little sick of 'brexit responsible for....' articles.

Here's a peach that blames brexit for the impending doom of global warming.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/j-jason-mitchell/why-climate-change-could-_b_11021204.html

super_furry

Nothing to do with Brexit at all and all to do with Glasgow football.

SEPT 23 1989

they can stay over there

Undercover Elephant

smash wrote: »

It's gas how England invaded half the world and then complained about immigration.

You know Glasgow is in Scotland, right?

One_Of_Shanks

The famine is over, it's time to go home

You don't see a comma included in spray-painted messages on walls too often!

Jawgap

Nobody from Glasgow wrote that - the spelling is too good:D

Plus who the fúck punctuates graffiti!

EDIT: if it had been a Glaswegian, it would've read "Git tae fook, ya Paddy basturds!!!"

jimgoose

What's this, then? "Romanes eunt domus"? People called Romanes, they go, the house? :pac:

Jawgap

jimgoose wrote: »

What's this, then? "Romanes eunt domus"? People called Romanes, they go, the house? :pac:

"It says "Romans go home" sir"

jimgoose

Jawgap wrote: »

"It says "Romans go home" sir"

No it doesn't!! Come on - Vocative plural of "Romanus"?? :pac:

Jawgap

jimgoose wrote: »

No it doesn't!! Come on - Vocative plural of "Romanus"?? :pac:

......Romanus"

jimgoose

Jawgap wrote: »

......Romanus"

"Romani"!

Jawgap

jimgoose wrote: »

"Romani"!

Romami!

jimgoose

Jawgap wrote: »

Romami!

Right! And if it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off!

Jawgap

jimgoose wrote: »

Right! And if it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off!

.....and don't do it again!!

mynamejeff

having spend some time there i can say that Glasgow and Scotland in general is populated by some of the most underdeveloped bigoted racist and idiotic human beings on the planet.

Stick old firm derby into youtube and watch the animals go at each other.

Potatoeman

steddyeddy wrote: »

Sprayed on a school wall in Glasgow. Since Brexit there's been a steep rise in racism and hate crimes around the UK. I live here and haven't heard anything negative at all. A colleague is Muslim and has had things shouted at him and his kids while picking them up from school. The same seems to be happening in Ireland as evident by anti muslim league or whatever crap they're calling themselves now. Are things getting worse?

http://www.joe.ie/news/anti-irish-graffiti-in-glasgow-is-being-treated-as-a-hate-crime/557898

So it's Brexit and not Muslim extremism and terrorism?

I feel like this is a sentence that is said to Bob Geldof on a regular basis.

BrokenArrows

steddyeddy wrote: »

Sprayed on a school wall in Glasgow. Since Brexit there's been a steep rise in racism and hate crimes around the UK. I live here and haven't heard anything negative at all. A colleague is Muslim and has had things shouted at him and his kids while picking them up from school. The same seems to be happening in Ireland as evident by anti muslim league or whatever crap they're calling themselves now. Are things getting worse?

http://www.joe.ie/news/anti-irish-graffiti-in-glasgow-is-being-treated-as-a-hate-crime/557898

Papers are just paying attention of issues that already existed and blaming the brexit. Im 50/50 on the brexit situation which is why i chose not to vote.

Freedom of immigration without restriction is just a bad idea. The issues with it are plain to see.

Immigration should be controlled across Europe even at the most basic level. You should have to apply for a work permit before immigrating to another country and you should have to register once per year to indicate that you are still living there.
One of the most basic issues of the Breixit campaign was that noone really knew how much immigration was taking place because nothing is recorded when someone goes to live in the UK. They just turn up and can work, and can leave just as quick.

This permit will include a background check so that unwanted criminals can be rejected rather than the current situation where criminals are only known when the commit another offense.
It should also be based on some financial backing. Someone should have to show that they have enough money to sustain themselves for a certain period of time (eg. 6 months), or they already have a job on arrival. No country needs an influx of minimum wage workers with no savings and who will be immediately claiming certain benefits which are available to them.

And any country should be allowed to place a restriction on the number of people who are allowed to move per year. Its unrealistic to expect any country which is doing well for itself to accept an unlimited number of people from the poorer areas of europe.
All that this encourages is the mass movement of people out of poorer countries which causes those countries to lose their most educated and skilled workers, and it causes a massive outflow of money from the country because a large amount of money is being sent back home to these countries.

the_syco

Jawgap wrote: »

Romami!

Romulans?

Badly Drunk Boy

BrokenArrows wrote: »

It should also be based on some financial backing. Someone should have to show that they have enough money to sustain themselves for a certain period of time (eg. 6 months), or they already have a job on arrival.

There would have been no Irish Diaspora if that was the case. Most people emigrating from home do so because of lack of money and opportunities to get it.

Your Face

I report every piece of offensive graffiti I see.
The Gardai love me.

steddyeddy

Your Face wrote: »

I report every piece of offensive graffiti I see.
The Gardai love me.

If there was racist grafitti painted on a school and aimed at those kids I woupd report it.

Jawgap

the_syco wrote: »

Romulans?

No, Romani......the vocative plural of "Romanus"

I saw nothing but kindness and fun in any of the Scots I know or have ever met, love the Scots.

It only takes one eejit to spray paint something they might not even understand on a wall.

steddyeddy

Candie wrote: »

I saw nothing but kindness and fun in any of the Scots I know or have ever met, love the Scots.

It only takes one eejit to spray paint something they might not even understand on a wall.

I agree Candie but I do think there's a rise in anti-immigrant feeling post Brexit.

steddyeddy

steddyeddy wrote: »

I agree Candie but I do think there's a rise in anti-immigrant feeling post Brexit.

I know there is from experience, I'm just making the point that whoever spray painted that probably doesn't have a notion about the famine. It's probably a football rivalry thing.

BrokenArrows

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

There would have been no Irish Diaspora if that was the case. Most people emigrating from home do so because of lack of money and opportunities to get it.

You can apply for jobs in that country without moving to that country. If you are offered the job then you will be allowed to immigrate. Fairly simple and straight forward.

And part of my post was saying that any country can restrict the amount of emigration per year. So when the country hits a hard time then they can significantly reduce this amount so that the existing population has better access to jobs etc.

A mass exodus of any country during a hard time does more damage than good to that country. It loses vital skills that the government spent a lot of money educating.

Badly Drunk Boy

A friend of mine was visiting his brother in England in the 80s. There was some anti-Irish and anti-black graffiti on the walls near where he was staying so after a few drinks, one of the plastic Paddies in the group got brave and wrote some anti-English, anti-royal family graffiti. The lads from council were around in no time to clear it off...but left the anti-Irish and anti-black graffiti where it was.

My friend thought that was quite funny, as it would have been easier to clean the whole lot.

PARlance

steddyeddy wrote: »

I agree Candie but I do think there's a rise in anti-immigrant feeling post Brexit.

I think the rise in the "media's" reporting of it has risen exponentially, far outweighing any actual increase.

The type of brainless graffiti has been around for donkeys years and never reported upon.

CrabRevolution

Candie wrote: »

I saw nothing but kindness and fun in any of the Scots I know or have ever met, love the Scots.

It only takes one eejit to spray paint something they might not even understand on a wall.

Sure that eejit isn't even a true Scotsman

endacl

smash wrote: »

It's gas how England invaded half the world and then complained about immigration.

Isn't Glasgow in Scotland...?

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

This could all have been prevented if only the lads at the time could've gotten their hands on some copper phosphate.

doolox

Otherwise known as bluestone. Phytoftera Infestans was the blight that killed the lumper potato which fed 25% of Ireland population in the 1840's. The cure was to spray with copper Sulphate solution.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Arsemageddon wrote: »

It's a line from the charming musical ditty known as The Famine Song sung by Rangers supporters.

It's.not been song by Rangers fans anymore and hasn't been for a few years. Whoever wrote it was a sad and pathetic human being it was also do e in retaliation for HaHa The 66 being sprayed on walls at Ibrox. Whoever finds anything amusing or indeed feels it's the right thing to do wants a slap

HalloweenJack

What I found particularly funny about the immigration debate as part of Brexit was that there are over a million British citizens living in Spain (made a whole lot easier thanks to the EU) and a large amount of them make no effort to learn the language or integrate into the culture. They hang around with other British citizens and go to pubs owned by British citizens with British staff and a majority British clientele and generally live their lives as if they were in the UK.

Yet, anyone who comes to the UK and does similar is giving a bollicking for not integrating. :rolleyes:

BrokenArrows

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Yet, anyone who comes to the UK and does similar is giving a bollicking for not integrating. :rolleyes:

The main complaint regarding "not integrating" are from cultures that are very different from British and they try and impose their values on British people rather than adjusting to the British way of life.

Simple example is a guy at work complaining to management that a free company BBQ wasn't halal and they they should have bought halal food because now he couldnt eat any of it.

And to be fair, the majority of British in Spain are retired old people. Cant teach an old dog new tricks as they say.

BalcombeSt4

razorblunt wrote: »

The plantation has ground to a halt too lads, pass the message on.

I wouldn't see this as anything further than Rangers "fans". Both Celtic and Rangers have idiots that engage in all this stuff, nothing to do with religion, just a learned behaviour from the cretins they call parents who dragged them up.

I live in Scotland and haven't had any issues.

Really? What anti-Protestant actions have Celtic fans been involved in?

steddyeddy

PARlance wrote: »

I think the rise in the "media's" reporting of it has risen exponentially, far outweighing any actual increase.

The type of brainless graffiti has been around for donkeys years and never reported upon.

It's not just the graffiti though. A lot of immigrants here have said they feel less welcome. You think they wouldn't have talked about it pre-Brexit?

Fratton Fred

steddyeddy wrote: »

It's not just the graffiti though. A lot of immigrants here have said they feel less welcome. You think they wouldn't have talked about it pre-Brexit?

As would any immigrant in a debate largely based on immigration.

Fratton Fred

smash wrote: »

It's gas how England invaded half the world and then complained about immigration.

Should we use a similar line next time someone on boards complains about immigration in to Ireland?

BalcombeSt4

There is without doubt a double standard when it comes to Loyalist fans of football clubs & Republican ones. Loyalists sing about the famine, being up their necks in fenian blood, about the "gallant" butchers. Can you imagine if Celtic fans sang about the brimingham pub bombings, you would never hear the end of it and rightfully so.

BalcombeSt4

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Should we use a similar line next time someone on boards complains about immigration in to Ireland?

Ah yes, all those former colonies of the Irish empire must be really pissed at us.

BalcombeSt4

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

There is without doubt a double standard when it comes to Loyalist fans of football clubs & Republican ones. Loyalists sing about the famine, being up their necks in fenian blood, about the "gallant" butchers. Can you imagine if Celtic fans sang about the brimingham pub bombings, you would never hear the end of it and rightfully so.

Bigots and cowards are always braver on their 'home' turf when they have numbers on their side.

Fratton Fred

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Ah yes, all those former colonies of the Irish empire must be really pissed at us.

The Irish have done their fair share of emmigrating.

Fratton Fred

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Can you imagine if Celtic fans sang about the brimingham pub bombings, you would never hear the end of it and rightfully so.

Or the Woolwich pub bombing......