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What generation of Irish people have had it the toughest?

  • 24-08-2016 11:02PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭


    Since independence which generation of Irish people have endured the toughest time? Since independence, because obviously the great famine would be No.1 otherwise.
    I think anyone born in the 1930s had it pretty bad. The Great Depression, rationing during the emergency, mass migration and hopelessness in the 1950s. Also those born in the 1970s. The mass unemployment of the 80s, crash of the late noughties, just when they were deep in debt.
    What do you think?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    all the 1950s, late 1980s


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Imagine the 40's during the Emergency


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭failinis


    It's very hard to quantity how shíte life was for different generations because each one goes through shíte and all think they had it worst.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    The people who could only afford one house during the Celtic Tiger. The shame of it all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Those born circa 1910.....lived and could recall the war of independence,civil war,great depression,stagnation of new state taking off and world war 2 by the age of 35


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    Famine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    failinis wrote: »
    It's very hard to quantity how shíte life was for different generations because each one goes through shíte and all think they had it worst.

    1920's. Country was in ruins after the war of independence. The Civil War split whole familes and poisoned that generation. Poverty, unemployment, emigration were endemic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    failinis wrote: »
    It's very hard to quantity how shíte life was for different generations because each one goes through shíte and all think they had it worst.

    I don't think I've had it worst. The 80's were shït on a stick but I imagine it was a damn site better than the 40's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Letree wrote: »
    Famine

    That was pre-independence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    The people who could only afford one house during the Celtic Tiger. The shame of it all

    ****ing peasants. An embarrassment to the rest of us😀😀😀


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Since independence which generation of Irish people have endured the toughest time? Since independence, because obviously the great famine would be No.1 otherwise.
    I think anyone born in the 1930s had it pretty bad. The Great Depression, rationing during the emergency, mass migration and hopelessness in the 1950s. Also those born in the 1970s. The mass unemployment of the 80s, crash of the late noughties, just when they were deep in debt.
    What do you think?

    I was born in the early 1970s finished education in the very early nineties, just as the country started to recover and started a career in IT in the late nineties when the boom really started here, and went on to 2008

    Are you living in a different country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Those born in the 70's have had it very good. The sh*t only hit the fan for the ones coming after.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Mahony0509


    I Would say those living around the 1900-1930 timespan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Those born circa 1910.....lived and could recall the war of independence,civil war,great depression,stagnation of new state taking off and world war 2 by the age of 35

    Some men born during the 1900s probably saw action at two world wars.

    Edit: revise that and say around 1900-1902


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    any generations that was born before the 50's... ive two uncles who have a 20 year age gap between them and the difference in the upbringing the older one had compared to the younger one is huge, the older one was born in the 40's. They had no electricity,running water, outhouse for a toilet, as soon he could work he had to leave school,no family car, fairly harsh catholic bogtotting schooling, grew all there own food, went to england at 18 etc... compared to his brother who was born in the late sixties who had it a lot handier.

    You have to admire the women back then when it came to rearing families. Many had large families and to rear the kids and take care of the house, with none of the utililies we take for granted now they had it real tough. The type of women like my 2 nannies is sadly long gone in Irish society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    any generations that was born before the 50's... ive two uncles who have a 20 year age gap between them and the difference in the upbringing the older one had compared to the younger one is huge, the older one was born in the 40's. They had no electricity,running water, outhouse for a toilet
    This was the case for many rural house in the 60''s, 70"'s and 80"s


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Zxclnic


    any generations that was born before the 50's... ive two uncles who have a 20 year age gap between them and the difference in the upbringing the older one had compared to the younger one is huge, the older one was born in the 40's. They had no electricity,running water, outhouse for a toilet, as soon he could work he had to leave school,no family car, fairly harsh catholic bogtotting schooling, grew all there own food, went to england at 18 etc... compared to his brother who was born in the late sixties who had it a lot handier.

    You have to admire the women back then when it came to rearing families. Many had large families and to rear the kids and take care of the house, with none of the utililies we take for granted now they had it real tough. The type of women like my 2 nannies is sadly long gone in Irish society.

    From Monty Python scetch:

    MP: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!

    GC: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!

    TG: Well we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.

    EI: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, (pause for laughter), eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."

    MP: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.

    ALL: Nope, nope..

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Stheno wrote: »
    I was born in the early 1970s finished education in the very early nineties, just as the country started to recover and started a career in IT in the late nineties when the boom really started here, and went on to 2008

    Are you living in a different country?

    I suppose it's all relative. Each generation has different expectations. What was a luxury in one generation, eg electricity, wifi, becomes a basic in the next.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    I suppose it's all relative. Each generation has different expectations. What was a luxury in one generation, eg electricity, wifi, becomes a basic in the next.

    But your statement about those born in the seventies and a recession in the late nineties is factually incorrect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,322 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Defo the Generation Snowflakers, that have to get by on less than 10 meg broadband. Like OMG, I so can only go on just Snapchat and Insta at once; it's so not tote amazeballs that some of us have to live in this new two channel land :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 338 ✭✭Fluffy Cat 88


    My grandparents generation definitely lived through tough times. They were born pre-independence but lived through civil war, The Emergency, the big snow of 1947, and general poorness we couldn't even imagine nowadays.

    I remember my Grandfather telling us that when he was a lad one of his peers said "one day a man will earn £1 a week wages" they laughed at him!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    My grandparents generation definitely lived through tough times. They were born pre-independence but lived through civil war, The Emergency, the big snow of 1947, and general poorness we couldn't even imagine nowadays.

    I remember my Grandfather telling us that when he was a lad one of his peers said "one day a man will earn £1 a week wages" they laughed at him!

    Had they no concept of inflation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Academic


    Bronze age. Really, really awful.

    Cheers,

    Ac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Probably the mid 1700s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,954 ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I was born in the mid 1970s and whilst the 80s were pretty crap I was only a young child and it didn't really affect me. I left college just as the economy was taking off and got a good career.

    My grandparents, born in the period from 1900 to 1915, had it so much, much harder. World wars, rationing, much lower standard of living, no TV, central heating etc. But then what you never had you don't miss.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Academic wrote: »
    Bronze age. Really, really awful.

    Cheers,

    Ac
    Some say the late 1840's were worse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    I was born in the 70s and I remember well going to bed or being in school hungry in the 80s. Always had a good dinner but as hard as my father worked or my mother tried, if porridge wasn't there we were fvcked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    The generations who got sent off to industrial schools and laundries to have pure awful things happen to them.
    Suppose the famine and workhouses weren't great either. I'd have taken the soup or hopped on a ship, for sure. At least those were options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    Frank McCourt and his brothers surely had it the worst.


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  • Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The people who could only afford one house during the Celtic Tiger. The shame of it all



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