Increasing costs of running shoes.

corny · 24-08-2016 01:11PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

Thanks for the passive aggressive reply. Can you tell me where I said I spent 200 euro on a pair of runners? Nothing in my head at all I have worn cheap unknown branded runners when I first took up running didn't work for me. Are you suggesting that the big companies do not invest in r and d again I never said or implied they spent a fortune but by and large you get what you pay for. Take care.

You're right. Wasn't my intention to pick a fight with you. Apologies for the tone.

I'd suggest the big companies spend fractions on R&D. Far less than they'd have us believe anyway.

The same phenomenon exists with golf clubs. 500 euro for a driver these days and they'd have you believe there's some futuristic alien technology being developed. The reality is its just a piece of titanium with a rubber grip. Its Rory McIlroy's 100 million dollars and the monstrous marketing budgets you're paying for. Anyway i digress. Runners are runners. Find a pair that fit well and go with them.

Djoucer · 24-08-2016 01:18PM

I've worn Asics DS racers and noticed about a €40 price increase.

End up buying last season's shoe.

Don't mind paying a fair price, hence I'll avoid Sports direct given how they treat their staff, but can't see why prices have gone up by so much.

You would want to be mad to pay full price for the Asics Kayano.

Clearlier · 24-08-2016 01:44PM

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

The more I run, the less important I feel the running shoes are. Comfort and weight are just about the only variables I care about these days. I pick up my shoes for €70-€80 on sportsshoes.com and wiggle (and the occasional bricks and mortar establishment when on sale), and because I'm paying substantially less for the shoes, I tend to put them into pasture much sooner (retire them to grass-recovery-run duties), long before I would if I was paying €100+ for them. So I'll clock up 350-400 miles in 'active duty', and then another couple of hundred miles on grass/trail running.

I've noticed that amongst other runners (the people) as well. One change that I made which I think has been important to my longest run of injury free training is that I only ever buy neutral runners.

I was in AK recently and was disappointed to be told that they only stock shoes in the €140+ range. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought that they used to hold plenty of stock in the €70 - €90 range which I would have happily paid. In the end my wife bought a pair as she gets ten years out of hers (no, she's not a runner) but I couldn't justify spending the money. I do value being able to try on a pair before I buy but at that price I only need to get it right every second time online to be saving money.

average_runner · 24-08-2016 01:45PM

Clearlier wrote: »

I've noticed that amongst other runners (the people) as well. One change that I made which I think has been important to my longest run of injury free training is that I only ever buy neutral runners.

I was in AK recently and was disappointed to be told that they only stock shoes in the €140+ range. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought that they used to hold plenty of stock in the €70 - €90 range which I would have happily paid. In the end my wife bought a pair as she gets ten years out of hers (no, she's not a runner) but I couldn't justify spending the money. I do value being able to try on a pair before I buy but at that price I only need to get it right every second time online to be saving money.

You need to buy off the web, once you know the runner that works for you.
Also don't buy this year model, buy last year model and save. Its only a gimmick anyhow.

Clearlier · 24-08-2016 01:48PM

average_runner wrote: »

You need to buy off the web, once you know the runner that works for you.
Also don't buy this year model, buy last year model and save. Its only a gimmick anyhow.

That's what I have been doing this year (not least because there aren't any good running shops nearby) with a mixed hit rate so far but I'll get better.

jamule · 24-08-2016 02:14PM

Don't believe all the bollox the big marketing depts put out, if they spent as much on R&D and as they do on marketing, they'd probably be broke.

Have a read of Tread Lightly by larson & Katovoski, if you want to educate yourself on shoes

I'm currently on 4 pairs,
a light pair of workhorses from aldi @€;10.99 (>1K miles and not a bother),
brooks T7 for road racing, I got these cheap on the t'internet some time in the last year, totally under worn.
NB spikes- for the grass in winter
My feet- for the summer grass

PaulieC · 24-08-2016 02:55PM

Clearlier wrote: »

Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought that they used to hold plenty of stock in the €70 - €90 range

They sold Brooks Green Silence for €70 in AK. Then, once Brooks realized what was going on, they replaced the Green Silence with the Pure range, all of which cost well north of €140 at launch.

24-08-2016 03:30PM

Would this be a good pair of runners?

https://www.sportsshoes.com/product/asi5220/asics-gel~noosa-tri-11-running-shoes-~-ss16/#description

rainbow kirby · 24-08-2016 04:54PM

Absolutely fine if you find them comfortable and they suit your feet.

yaboya1 · 24-08-2016 05:16PM

I've bought my last few pairs in the Nike warehouse store for around €40-50. They're usually the lines they want to get rid of to make room for new stuff on the shelves, so the shoes are still modern enough (e.g. got a pair of Zoom Pegasus 31s for €40 last year).

I always used to spend €100+ on new shoes (which I believed necessary), until one of the faster lads here told me he never spends more than €40. I've copied him there, now I just need to emulate his times.......

HS3 · 24-08-2016 08:27PM

I always get my runners on sale. I've never paid more than €65/70 but this year I found it really difficult to find ones on sale for that price. I ended up paying €100, on sale, for a pair of asics that im pretty sure were a wrong buy. I can't be certain though, although I'm currently limping around with a right sore leg (which has been causing me hassle all year) and now a left sore ankle. I have an appointment with a physio for next week but I'm pretty sure the shoe brought on this current ankle issue!

I really can't afford to go to the likes of the popular sports shops to get a gait analysis done and then pay €170 quid for a pair of their runners, but equally i can't afford to buy the wrong runners again! Tis quite the pickle :pac:

How did you all find your runner that suits to be able to buy them online?

nhunter100 · 24-08-2016 08:33PM

HS3 wrote:

How did you all find your runner that suits to be able to buy them online?

Try sportshoe.com, then try the wet test .

tang1 · 24-08-2016 08:40PM

HS3 wrote: »

I always get my runners on sale. I've never paid more than €65/70 but this year I found it really difficult to find ones on sale for that price. I ended up paying €100, on sale, for a pair of asics that im pretty sure were a wrong buy. I can't be certain though, although I'm currently limping around with a right sore leg (which has been causing me hassle all year) and now a left sore ankle. I have an appointment with a physio for next week but I'm pretty sure the shoe brought on this current ankle issue!

I really can't afford to go to the likes of the popular sports shops to get a gait analysis done and then pay €170 quid for a pair of their runners, but equally i can't afford to buy the wrong runners again! Tis quite the pickle :pac:

How did you all find your runner that suits to be able to buy them online?

Your under no obligation to buy runners after gait analysis. They recommend what suits you then up to you to buy.

HS3 · 24-08-2016 08:50PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

Try sportshoe.com, then try the wet test .

Hah. Gonna be honest thought you were having me on till I googled

. That's a pretty nifty tip. Thanks!

tang1 wrote: »

Your under no obligation to buy runners after gait analysis. They recommend what suits you then up to you to buy.

Really? Is that not a bit cheeky? Analyse me for free and then scarper?

tang1 · 24-08-2016 08:52PM

HS3 wrote: »

Really? Is that not a bit cheeky? Analyse me for free and then scarper?

Well that's what I was informed when I got it done, said no pressure to buy, but I did.

Chartsengrafs · 24-08-2016 08:56PM

tang1 wrote: »

Your under no obligation to buy runners after gait analysis. They recommend what suits you then up to you to buy.

I wouldn't feel right doing it myself. In my experience the better running shops are owned by sole traders who in the past have spent up to twenty minutes with me analysing and discussing gait etc.

HS3 · 24-08-2016 09:01PM

tang1 wrote: »

Well that's what I was informed when I got it done, said no pressure to buy, but I did.

Ok thanks. I think I'll have to find out for once and for all. I'll give the wet test a try too!

Chartsengrafs · 24-08-2016 09:03PM

tang1 wrote: »

Well that's what I was informed when I got it done, said no pressure to buy, but I did.

Fair enough in that case I suppose!

ThisRegard · 24-08-2016 09:03PM

Bad form getting the analysis done in an indie store and doing a legger I reckon.

HS3 · 24-08-2016 09:04PM

Chartsengrafs wrote: »

I wouldn't feel right doing it myself. In my experience the better running shops are owned by sole traders who in the past have spent up to twenty minutes with me analysing and discussing gait etc.

Ah crap! Now I have the guilts again! :pac:. I feel like a right cheat bringing the kids to Clarke's for measurements only to sneak off to Dunne's for the shoes

tang1 · 24-08-2016 09:05PM

HS3 wrote: »

Ok thanks. I think I'll have to find out for once and for all. I'll give the wet test a try too!

It'll save you money in the long run, I know exactly what suits me since I got it done and have't spent more than €70 on a pair of runners in 4-5 years. Got pair of Nike Vomeros in the Nike outlet in Blanch for €29 a few weeks back.

tang1 · 24-08-2016 09:12PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

Bad form getting the analysis done in an indie store and doing a legger I reckon.

I didn't recommend it, just stated I was told I didn't have to buy when I got it done, I did purchase when I got fitted as the service was excellent.

Gael23 · 24-08-2016 09:16PM

I'm wearing a pair of €140 Ascics at the moment. Yes it's a lot but they feel like as if I'm running with gloves on my feet. You need to pay good money for that comfort.

HS3 · 24-08-2016 09:35PM

Gael23 wrote: »

I'm wearing a pair of €140 Ascics at the moment. Yes it's a lot but they feel like as if I'm running with gloves on my feet. You need to pay good money for that comfort.

I only ever by asics. The last pair I bought were like clouds on my feet, so much so I kept them a bit longer than I should have. They were €65 on sale. This time I had looked in a few shops, googled what was similar and when I tried these asics ones on in the shop I felt a support in the arch that my foot seemed happy with. But now I think I already run on the outside of my foot and the arch is just adding to it. When I'm on a path that slopes towards the road it is very uncomfortable. I'm probably totally wrong and thats not the issue at all, it could possibly be as simple as I'm unconsciously running heavier on the left leg because im so concerned about setting the right one off. But they absolutely do not feel as instantly comfortable as the others did and I don't think runners should be causing so much awareness while you're running?

dublin runner · 24-08-2016 09:43PM

Gael23 wrote:

I'm wearing a pair of â‚¬140 Ascics at the moment. Yes it's a lot but they feel like as if I'm running with gloves on my feet. You need to pay good money for that comfort.

I reckon I got 6 pairs of great runners for under that price in my last online batch so no, no you don't! Whatever works for you though I guess.

Prices have certainly increased in my opinion.

-RIP PUMA FAAS (gone but not forgotten!)

24-08-2016 09:56PM

I know less about runners than I do about running and I know nothing about running :pac:

Currently doing my bits of jogging in Air Pergasus I got in Kildare Village Nike store. Runners I had before them were 1/2 price new balance from elroys, both cost me €60 ish.

A couple of Air Max than and Addidas Nizza for strolling about

rom · 24-08-2016 11:19PM

The Edge in Cork used to charge for gait analysis of 20 euro and if you but runners it comes off the price. When it was done for me it was clearly done by someone who know f all about it.

When buying in a store always ask the person selling the shoes if they run, what distance, with a club etc. Buy shoes from sales reps not sales rep.

Gael23 · 24-08-2016 11:40PM

dublin runner wrote: »

I reckon I got 6 pairs of great runners for under that price in my last online batch so no, no you don't! Whatever works for you though I guess.

Prices have certainly increased in my opinion.

-RIP PUMA FAAS (gone but not forgotten!)

I do agree that an expensive pair of shoes isn't always a good pair. My running coach always says a shoe someone swears by could be totally unsuitable for someone else and he's right. When I took up athletics I went for Saucony because I often see athletes wearing them so I thought they must be good. They are really light but the soles are too hard for me.
I still think for proper arch support and superior cushioning you do need to spend a bit on runners.

mirrorwall14 · 24-08-2016 11:57PM

I've gone from a total couch potato doing zero exercise to walking/shuffle jogging 20k+ a week (which for me is a massive increase this summer). I'm significantly overweight and working on it but really want to avoid injury

I've known since I was a teenager that I have severely flat arches and wore orthotics for about 8 years. I'm also an EEEE fit in shoes. I'm wearing a pair of new balance walking runners right now but they are about 6 years old and aren't great. The leather is stiff and I get a recurring blister on one side of my foot. I've worn superfeet insoles for the last two years with great success but I don't know can I put these into runners or do I need to just use the runner alone?

Now after all the background info does anyone know if I can get away with ordering online because we're in the process of buying a house and funds are very tight?

Do I wait for six months to be sure I get properly fitted in a bricks and mortor? Should I just stick with the new balance for six months even though they are old? Or pick up a cheap pair in ALDI/Lidl/online until I can afford to be properly fitted? Any advice appreciated for a newbie to the keep fit world

RuMan · 25-08-2016 10:32AM

Gael23 wrote: »

I still think for proper arch support and superior cushioning you do need to spend a bit on runners.

What does "superior cushioning" actually mean ? Also why do you need arch support ? is there something wrong with your arches ? If so I'd suggest working on fixing that problem.

Increasing costs of running shoes.

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