Werewolf I - The Beginning | Completed - Villagers Win

Tigger · 24-08-2016 03:36PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Tigger you are pushing very hard for two people.
For me, this is one of two reasons. A) You are a villager and determined to keep the village alive, You are the master of deception and are a wolf very carefully, setting us up to fail.

A lot of your posts do make sense, so I am really not too sure, then there is Ficheall & Tritium.

I really am very unsure at this stage. I will not be rush voting this evening. Slow thinking.

So either I'm a crazy person running around desperately trying to save us or I'm a master mind
Lol

mahamageehad · 24-08-2016 03:46PM

Ficheall wrote: »

The only way a vote can be "secret" is if we don't say who we're voting for - which is a little at odds with agreeing on two people to vote for.

It can still be a secret vote on those two. That way we know one of the two is getting lynched. If one is a wolf, then their wolfy brethren will likely turn up and try and persuade people to vote for the other one. Anyone who doesn't vote for one of the two is suspicious, we will find this out afterwards. If we just do a random vote now, we're playing right into the wolves hands coz they can all black vote for 1 person and get rid of em, or worse they can spread their votes out meaning we'll likely lynch a villager. Might even end up as a draw. After tonight's vote, we'll know if the victim was a wolf or not. That and the votes should help us see a bit of a pattern. We've gotten two lynchs wrong so far, not sure we can afford another.

Digital Solitude · 24-08-2016 04:06PM

I'm voting now for PP or Daz, going to work soon so if a different pair are decided I'm sorry, I won't see it.

Digital Solitude · 24-08-2016 04:08PM

And I have voted, just so I am covered in case I end up voting an outsider again

24-08-2016 04:11PM

Digital Solitude wrote: »

And I have voted, just so I am covered in case I end up voting an outsider again

Interesting seeming as the consensus was that we weren't going to choose the two until later as to give the wolves time to coordinate a plan.

Here you are trying to set up two people with over six hours to deadline. Does your phone not have access to the internet. Suspicious.

Digital Solitude · 24-08-2016 04:24PM

I will be at work and so won't be able to keep up with the thread. The consensus can form on whoever they like, I won't be around to read it until about 2am. Hence I'm casting my vote now on who I would have put forward for the race.

Any other suspicions need clearing up?

Tigger · 24-08-2016 04:29PM

Digital Solitude wrote: »

I will be at work and so won't be able to keep up with the thread. The consensus can form on whoever they like, I won't be around to read it until about 2am. Hence I'm casting my vote now on who I would have put forward for the race.

Any other suspicions need clearing up?

i hope you voted for him

Digital Solitude · 24-08-2016 04:33PM

No comment, am I alone in thinking it's a weak leg to stand on throwing accusations at me for?

Anyways, onto the bike, this'll likely be my last post before the lynching

suffering golfer · 24-08-2016 04:41PM

Catching up on thread now... Interesting reading.

So here what we know, since the lynch last night. Mickjagour got munched (any theories why?)... Sullivo came out as priest and confirmed witness is dead and that uriel and shatterproof were both normal villagers.

One of my main suspects was Ficheall, but he gains village points in his post last night when he said his priority was to save sullivo To balance that however he said he was voting to lynch someone that he believed was a villager, rather than try convince the rest of the village that they were in the wrong track. Very odd behavior.

But anyhow we have some solid info to work with. Knowing who voted for the two villagers and the killed wolves shows up some interesting info given that Sullivo is a villager until proven otherwise. The list below is of those who voted for known villagers two nights in a row.

Tritium - voted uriel two nights in a row
Sullivio - voted shatterproof and uriel. Discounted obviously...
Trigger - voted shatterproof and uriel.
Andy - voted shatterproof and uriel
Ficheall - voted flea and uriel
Kylo Ren - voted uriel both nights
Poochie - voted shatterproof and Sullivo
El hombre - voted uriel and Sullivo
The dazzler - voted Sullivo both nights
Maghahmee - voted shatterproof and uriel
Persepoly - voted Sullivio and uriel

There is likely two or three wolves (were we dream of all four?) in there given that they voted for known villagers two nights in a row. If I missed anyone, please let me know.

While I agree with Andy about targeting known sleepers, that should wait till later and we should focus and ask hard questions and vote on those who voted for villagers both nights in a row until we have more info.

suffering golfer · 24-08-2016 04:43PM

If Sullivo is a wolf, then the list is invalid obv...

MrsFlushdraw · 24-08-2016 05:01PM

Been out all day and now on the wine. Not read today yet but will soon :-)

Ficheall · 24-08-2016 05:06PM

suffering golfer wrote: »

One of my main suspects was Ficheall, but he gains village points in his post last night when he said his priority was to save sullivo To balance that however he said he was voting to lynch someone that he believed was a villager, rather than try convince the rest of the village that they were in the wrong track. Very odd behavior.

Can I trade in these village points of yours for something useful?
I did as much fecking convincing as I could without trying to make it too obvious that sullivlo was the priest. And while I didn't think Uriel was a wolf, I knew sullivlo wasn't, so it was more important to try to ensure that sullivlo survived unrevealed. Of course, this was a complete waste of time as revealed herself right at the very end and then put me on her list of suspected wolves. That's gratitude for you.

andy125 · 24-08-2016 05:07PM

mahamageehad wrote: »

I'm going to put together a ranking like Sulli did when I get home later. For now I don't think Tigger or Sulli are wolves. I'd be against putting Tig in the run, it's causing us to split votes. It should be down to two. I'm not sure that the two we picked are the right two, but I'm equally not trusting that either are villagers. We shouldn't be setting on which two just yet. Gives the wolves more time to strategize.

Sulli will survive the vote, and can then tell us immediately if the Lynch victim was a wolf or not. If not, we're pretty screwed as Sulli is likely getting eaten tonight.

Ficheall wrote: »

We do need to start running some quiet people soon though.

Ok what if we run one quiet poster suspect with one of the active poster suspects,

i really think there could be only 1 at a push 2 active posters that are wolves and 2 maybe 3 sleeper wolves

we have failed so far in our lynching methods, i think we need to change it up for this one as we have the priest for the round

Tigger · 24-08-2016 05:07PM

suffering golfer wrote: »

Catching up on thread now... Interesting reading.

So here what we know, since the lynch last night. Mickjagour got munched (any theories why?)... Sullivo came out as priest and confirmed witness is dead and that uriel and shatterproof were both normal villagers.

One of my main suspects was Ficheall, but he gains village points in his post last night when he said his priority was to save sullivo To balance that however he said he was voting to lynch someone that he believed was a villager, rather than try convince the rest of the village that they were in the wrong track. Very odd behavior.

But anyhow we have some solid info to work with. Knowing who voted for the two villagers and the killed wolves shows up some interesting info given that Sullivo is a villager until proven otherwise. The list below is of those who voted for known villagers two nights in a row.

Tritium - voted uriel two nights in a row
Sullivio - voted shatterproof and uriel. Discounted obviously...
Trigger - voted shatterproof and uriel.
Andy - voted shatterproof and uriel
Ficheall - voted flea and uriel
Kylo Ren - voted uriel both nights
Poochie - voted shatterproof and Sullivo
El hombre - voted uriel and Sullivo
The dazzler - voted Sullivo both nights
Maghahmee - voted shatterproof and uriel
Persepoly - voted Sullivio and uriel

There is likely two or three wolves (were we dream of all four?) in there given that they voted for known villagers two nights in a row. If I missed anyone, please let me know.

While I agree with Andy about targeting known sleepers, that should wait till later and we should focus and ask hard questions and vote on those who voted for villagers both nights in a row until we have more info.

so take two or three of these
i suggested me pphone and daz

Tigger · 24-08-2016 05:08PM

andy125 wrote: »

Ok what if we run one quiet poster suspect with one of the active poster suspects,

i really think there could be only 1 at a push 2 active posters that are wolves and 2 maybe 3 sleeper wolves

we have failed so far in our lynching methods, i think we need to change it up for this one as we have the priest for the round

no
makes no sense
pick 2 daz and pphoneor if you must then daz pphone and me
random sleeper votes is crazy

suffering golfer · 24-08-2016 05:14PM

Tigger wrote: »

so take two or three of these
i suggested me pphone and daz

I actually have a theory about you. Why didn't jay just mod kill dobman if he was just an ord villager? Did he need to bring you in because you have a role?

24-08-2016 05:15PM

What if Sullivlo isn't the priest and some of us are being played? What if there have been three wolves actively posting among us?

Tigger · 24-08-2016 05:18PM

suffering golfer wrote: »

I actually have a theory about you. Why didn't jay just mod kill dobman if he was just an ord villager? Did he need to bring you in because you have a role?

fraid noti was a bit disappointed that i only got to be a villager but thems the breaks

suffering golfer · 24-08-2016 05:18PM

Ficheall wrote: »

Can I trade in these village points of yours for something useful?
I did as much fecking convincing as I could without trying to make it too obvious that sullivlo was the priest. And while I didn't think Uriel was a wolf, I knew sullivlo wasn't, so it was more important to try to ensure that sullivlo survived unrevealed. Of course, this was a complete waste of time as revealed herself right at the very end and then put me on her list of suspected wolves. That's gratitude for you.

Still need to explain why you didn't just Keep your vote on persepoly? Sullivio would still be safe with the 7 votes that went to uriel. Unless you didn't want people following your vote and go for persepoly, whom by odd coincidence, voted for villager both nights also.

You just lost some villager points...

24-08-2016 05:21PM

suffering golfer wrote: »

Still need to explain why you didn't just Keep your vote on persepoly? Sullivio would still be safe with the 7 votes that went to uriel. Unless you didn't want people following your vote and go for persepoly, whom by odd coincidence, voted for villager both nights also.

You just lost some villager points...

I was sure Uriel was a wolf also I felt it was wise to go along with what seemed to be the team consensus. Now I haven't a notion who is what.

suffering golfer · 24-08-2016 05:23PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What if Sullivlo isn't the priest and some of us are being played? What if there have been three wolves actively posting among us?

Hmm, wolvey post here... Guess we will know tomorrow after you eat sullivo tonight.

Tigger · 24-08-2016 05:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What if Sullivlo isn't the priest and some of us are being played? What if there have been three wolves actively posting among us?

that only works if mick was the priest and he trained her to be the apprentice (but how did she know that the witness is dead and if the witness is alive aqnd the apprentice i alive they need to come out and tell us)

or if uriel was the priest and she was the apprentice (again but how did she know that the witness is dead and if the witness is alive and the apprentice i alive they need to come out and tell us)

no she's the priest there is an apprentice that knows she's the priest and the witness is dead
seer is still alive. makes sense

andy125 · 24-08-2016 05:24PM

Tigger wrote: »

no
makes no sense
pick 2 daz and pphoneor if you must then daz pphone and me
random sleeper votes is crazy

How does it make no sense?

Acquiescing people left right and center because of flawed logic makes no sense which has cost us two villagers in lynching already and going by your logic would have cost us mick today if he wasn't slaughtered - that makes no sense

there is two obvious deep sleepers and i guaranteeyou one of them is a wolf, there is always one every time, dont give them time to start slowly upping their post count with excuses of why after 3 days the 2 sleepers have just 19 posts between them!

i think you are a villager because a lot of your posts especially regarding the priest was not wolf like at all, but you have to reel it in a little bit

24-08-2016 05:25PM

suffering golfer wrote: »

Hmm, wolvey post here... Guess we will know tomorrow after you eat sullivo tonight.

It's just another angle. That's all I have right now, angles, what ifs, maybes.

suffering golfer · 24-08-2016 05:34PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's just another angle. That's all I have right now, angles, what ifs, maybes.

And what I have is facts is what I am presenting based on known info.

It hasn't escaped my attention that both of you and fichaell, came out so quickly on the defensive.

24-08-2016 05:38PM

suffering golfer wrote: »

And what I have is facts is what I am presenting based on known info.

It hasn't escaped my attention that both of you and fichaell, came out so quickly on the defensive.

Known info? How can you be so certain? Or is there something I'm missing.

24-08-2016 05:40PM

Explain why mrs Flushdraw is being ignored? Kylo Ren? El Hombre?

suffering golfer · 24-08-2016 05:42PM

andy125 wrote: »

How does it make no sense?

Acquiescing people left right and center because of flawed logic makes no sense which has cost us two villagers in lynching already and going by your logic would have cost us mick today if he wasn't slaughtered - that makes no sense

there is two obvious deep sleepers and i guaranteeyou one of them is a wolf, there is always one every time, dont give them time to start slowly upping their post count with excuses of why after 3 days the 2 sleepers have just 19 posts between them!

i think you are a villager because a lot of your posts especially regarding the priest was not wolf like at all, but you have to reel it in a little bit

Hate to say this, but you are coming off a little dodgy also. You also voted for two known villagers and you want to go for wolves based on post counts? There are a number of reasons for low post counts, RL issues, lack of interest in game, lazy posting style, and sleeping wolves yes. Post counts is a little unreliable unless we know the reason why.

Surprised you didn't want to go off voting patterns and known info tbh unless you know the wolves are not in the low post counts?

Ficheall · 24-08-2016 05:43PM

suffering golfer wrote: »

Still need to explain why you didn't just Keep your vote on persepoly? Sullivio would still be safe with the 7 votes that went to uriel. Unless you didn't want people following your vote and go for persepoly, whom by odd coincidence, voted for villager both nights also.

You just lost some villager points...

Well had I known in advance that 7 votes were going to be cast for Uriel then yes, I could have kept my vote on Persepoly. But I didn't. It was a pretty close run thing. In the end sullivlo was almost lynched despite having outed herself as the priest.

As to this nonsense about picking villagers two nights in a row - if you selected two people completely at random there's about a 62% chance of getting two villagers, about a 36% chance of getting a villager and a wolf, and about a 1% chance of getting two wolves.

Tigger · 24-08-2016 05:45PM

andy125 wrote: »

How does it make no sense?

Acquiescing people left right and center because of flawed logic makes no sense which has cost us two villagers in lynching already and going by your logic would have cost us mick today if he wasn't slaughtered - that makes no sense

there is two obvious deep sleepers and i guaranteeyou one of them is a wolf, there is always one every time, dont give them time to start slowly upping their post count with excuses of why after 3 days the 2 sleepers have just 19 posts between them!

i think you are a villager because a lot of your posts especially regarding the priest was not wolf like at all, but you have to reel it in a little bit

no co once sulli wasn't killed as a preist i knew mick wasn't a wolf cos he knew sulli was a priest

Werewolf I - The Beginning | Completed - Villagers Win

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