Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

km79 wrote: »

Ger Caff "I don't think I've ever expressed an opinion on twitter before #mayogaa https://t.co/BVXfyWin8S"
Wants club games postponed

Well I'll take my opinion back then, if the players feel they need to be cancelled then they shouldn't be sent back to their clubs with that attitude.

Club games should be postponed, no question.

Peist2007 wrote: »

That's the risk that has to be taken. You cant cancel the club championship until the all ireland championship ends. Doesnt seem to affect Kilkenny and there will be some tasty games at training over the next few weeks as players from 16-30 in the panel stake their claims

Well maybe when we start winning AI's every year then we can afford to follow Kilkenny's example :rolleyes:

martyos121 wrote: »

I can't imagine any of our country players getting rough treatment on the pitch from other clubs in Mayo when they have the chance to bring home our first AI title in 65 years. If they get injured from something innocuous, well the same could happen in training sure.

Very naive

martyos121 wrote: »

The GAA doesn't come to a screeching halt for four weeks between a semi final and the final. Every one of those lads know it and so do all the fans. If they get injured, they get injured, but Dublin and Kerry have club fixtures too and there's every chance the same could happen to them.

We've had a bit of luck this year, may it continue with the help of god.

Not sure what the situation in Kerry is but afaik no cship games have been played in Dublin since April and wont be till their cship run is over, though i stand to be corrected.

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

My comparison of the league for Mayo v Tipp was in the context that Tipp had never been to the same level as Mayo have been in the league, it showed

Kerry played a very settled team after they lost their first two league games
But they were shown to be very off Dublin in the final.
That team has changed slightly but not dramatically in some areas.

As for the Kerry beat Tipp far more convincing than Mayo did I'll refer you to the Tipp beat Galway and Mayo lost to Galway argument

You have used more than Tipp for league comparisons in championship match up on here. I understand the league standings of both and experience gain but what exactly did it show? for long spells on Sunday you couldn't tell which was the Div 1 side as Tipp played most of the football. It was a case of goals wins games on this occasion, The first Mayo goal was against the run of play the other came out of nothing either a miss hit shot that fell kindly to Conor O Shea.

Take away those goals and all Mayo scored was 0-13 which wasn't much better than the total scored against Galway in June. The margin of victory flattered Mayo on Sunday IMO and Mayo in their form of recent years would have beaten Tipp by a similar margin to what Kerry beat them in this years Munster final

Kerry do that every year in the league. Start off experimenting and look to finish the league with a settled team. The final against Dublin was 0-15 to 0-13 with 63 minutes played. Dublin finished strongly when Kerry had tired were down to 14.


On the last "argument" prior to the Munster final Tipp beat Div 1 Cork and if Cork had played Galway in the Quarter final they probably would have beaten Galway also and you claim Kerry have played as bad as Mayo have ths year but i highly doubt Kerry would have lost at home to Galway this summer.

I've just rewatched the game and I have only one comment.

Tommy Carr is an ass

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

But it has been pointed out time and time again since 2011 that Mayo have been far to open at the back, and the new manager wish list back last September included a "defensive minded, tactically aware" guy.

On the face of it this is what Rochford has delivered.

He deployed a sweeper, he changed the game plan for Tyrone, he stuck with the game plan for Tyrone, he used Barry Moran as a full back to negate Tipps high ball to the forwards.

Whether or not they can win the final is another thing, but you cannot ignore that Rochford ytried to address the biggest weakness Mayo have had.

Three goals conceded this campaign, Clarke has also helped this but I'd be curious to know how many goal chances they are giving up compared to previous years.

I'd hold back on the defensive praise until after the AI final. When Mayo reached the 2012 final i recall similar praise for stopping Dublin from scoring a goal in the semi final and on route to the 2013 AI final i think only one goal was conceded by Mayo a quickly taken McFadden free kick in the quarter final hammering of Donegal. Was said at the time that Mayo had learnt their lessons in defence but Dublin still scored two match winning goals in the final.

Stryderman wrote: »

Club Games have been postponed

Excellent, it's just too risky. Let them focus on what they have to do next month. Fair play to Ger Cafferkey and Dave Brady for putting focus onto it too.

Statement from Mayo GAA

Joint statement from Mayo GAA Board & Senior Team Management
Following discussions since Mayo’s victory over Tipperary in last Sunday’s All-Ireland SFC semi-final, it has been decided to postpone next weekend’s round of Mayo SFC games. All IFC games will go ahead as scheduled except the following which involve members of the Mayo senior panel: Bohola Moy Davitts v Swinford; Westport v Shrule/Glencorrib; and Belmullet v Burrishoole.
This has not been an easy decision for all concerned as we were faced with a Catch 22 situation. Everyone involved in Mayo GAA wishes to support the senior football team as effectively as we can in the run-up to September 18 – and, equally, everyone is fully aware of the impact a postponement at such late notice will have on club players and managements.
However, after carefully considering the various issues involved, and acknowledging that there was no simple solution, we feel that the best interests of Mayo football will be served on this occasion by postponing the above games so that the team can prepare for the All-Ireland final.
The primary reason for doing so is to allow the team the four weeks of preparation between now and the final so that they can represent all of us in optimum condition on September 18. We hope all Mayo GAA people will understand the well-founded motivation for our decision and rally around the team for the next few weeks.
It is proposed to now hold the next round of SFC games on the weekend after the All-Ireland final (Sept. 24/25th). The IFC games mentioned above will also go ahead on that weekend also.
The quarter finals in both the SFC & IFC championship will go ahead on 1/2nd October.

blowitupref wrote: »

I'd hold back on the defensive praise until after the AI final. When Mayo reached the 2012 final i recall similar praise for stopping Dublin from scoring a goal in the semi final and on route to the 2013 AI final i think only one goal was conceded by Mayo a quickly taken McFadden free kick in the quarter final hammering of Donegal. Was said at the time that Mayo had learnt their lessons in defence but Dublin still scored two match winning goals in the final.

No one is suggesting that it's the magic bullet,but another poster seemed to be bemoaning the fact that Mayo are not as aggressive going forward.

My opinion is that it's this more tactical approach that may be helping Mayo,and it's a lack of tactics that Mayo have been criticized for in years gone by

Mayo Club 51 wrote: »

Statement from Mayo GAA

Joint statement from Mayo GAA Board & Senior Team Management
Following discussions since Mayo’s victory over Tipperary in last Sunday’s All-Ireland SFC semi-final, it has been decided to postpone next weekend’s round of Mayo SFC games. All IFC games will go ahead as scheduled except the following which involve members of the Mayo senior panel: Bohola Moy Davitts v Swinford; Westport v Shrule/Glencorrib; and Belmullet v Burrishoole.
This has not been an easy decision for all concerned as we were faced with a Catch 22 situation. Everyone involved in Mayo GAA wishes to support the senior football team as effectively as we can in the run-up to September 18 – and, equally, everyone is fully aware of the impact a postponement at such late notice will have on club players and managements.
However, after carefully considering the various issues involved, and acknowledging that there was no simple solution, we feel that the best interests of Mayo football will be served on this occasion by postponing the above games so that the team can prepare for the All-Ireland final.
The primary reason for doing so is to allow the team the four weeks of preparation between now and the final so that they can represent all of us in optimum condition on September 18. We hope all Mayo GAA people will understand the well-founded motivation for our decision and rally around the team for the next few weeks.
It is proposed to now hold the next round of SFC games on the weekend after the All-Ireland final (Sept. 24/25th). The IFC games mentioned above will also go ahead on that weekend also.
The quarter finals in both the SFC & IFC championship will go ahead on 1/2nd October.

Joke of a decision.

Us club players haven't been able to take holidays all summer, played one championship game at the beginning of May and one at the end of June, and now nothing until the end of September. Three months between championship games at the group stage. What's the point?

And now we probably can't even have a pint on All Ireland final weekend!!! Well I hope everyone else enjoys the weekend, because there's not much in it for us any more.

Next year will be worse if they go with that group stage stuff - guaranteed not to be playing games for July and August next year too.

That'll be it for me now anyway, can't justify travelling home and putting off holidays or stag weekends or whatever for club football any more. Congrats to the GAA on turning football into an elite level sport, they couldn't care less about the rest of us.

km79 wrote: »

I think it may have reached a stage where in the future games will regularly have to go ahead without county players
That's also unfair but at least the majority of club players get regular game time ?
Would that be better do have think ?

I think that would make an even bigger farce of the Club Championship. If you did that, you're pretty much at the stage then were a County player is just that and ceases to become a Club Player. They already sit out most of the League games.

Something needs to change in the "stonger counties" at least, be it their Club championship or a newly restructured (more compact) AI Championship. You will begin to lose Club players if this carries on.

km79 wrote:

I think it may have reached a stage where in the future games will regularly have to go ahead without county players That's also unfair but at least the majority of club players get regular game time ? Would that be better do have think ?

The Rugby provinces do it when the internationals are called up. Seems to work okay. Can seem a bit unfair sometimes. But at least the clubs will get their games and players can plan their lives with a bit more certainty

Westernyelp wrote: »

The Rugby provinces do it when the internationals are called up. Seems to work okay. Can seem a bit unfair sometimes. But at least the clubs will get their games and players can plan their lives with a bit more certainty

While similar, it's very different too and a worrying comparison. Club rugby in Ireland is more or less dead from what I see. It died when full time professionalism was brought in and County football in stronger counties is pretty much all that bar the name these days.

The provinces can buy in players to have these positions covered. Would we see decent county players from the likes of Leitrim and Sligo being offered Jobs/expenses etc in Mayo to bolster club squads? An extreme example but I don't think it's completely unrealistic if Clubs were backed into a corner.