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Homeless campaigner is a fraud. Mod Note #1835

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Does this surprise anyone?

    Where are her family by the way? Why can't she live with them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Considering she has been given multiple opportunities to put a roof over her child's head and has refused each one due to her own self entitlement, does anyone think that child services should be informed?

    She's forcing her child to be homeless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    She also has room in her family's home, as they habe a 4 bed with one person aside from the parents there. She's also still in a long term relationship, so no doubt could be with her boyfriend.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭FA Hayek


    The lady should be charged for child abuse. She is wilfully making her child homeless and damaging their future all for personal gain and media attention. She should get a visit from the child protection agency and be told she is now back of the queue for a house.

    This is exactly what is wrong with the country. Entitlement Ireland Inc. alive and well, being given a soapbox by the media. A right to this and that, with no responsibility attached.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭enricoh


    What's the market rate for a two bed apartment in clontarf 1400/1500? And its not good enough for her. If we all commuted longer ,worked harder n paid more taxes this woman could get exactly what she's after!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭Icsics


    My hubby stays in the hotel this lady lives in for work. It's near the airport, but you need to get a shuttle bus to it . I've seen her myself, filling a bag from the breakfast buffet, getting her coffee & heading off in her gym gear.
    An absolute disgrace that the taxpayer is funding this lifestyle choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Carrie6OD


    Icsics wrote: »
    My hubby stays in the hotel this lady lives in for work. It's near the airport, but you need to get a shuttle bus to it . I've seen her myself, filling a bag from the breakfast buffet, getting her coffee & heading off in her gym gear.
    An absolute disgrace that the taxpayer is funding this lifestyle choice.

    Jesus... I actually feel sick reading that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    I'm flabbergasted by this. We have scrimped and saved and fought with life insurance companies and banks and are finally, finally sale agreed on a 'forever home' for us and our toddler all while paying rent. It's not the area we wanted, far from it but we have to cut our cloth.


    This woman has actually turned down accommodation which would give her a huge leg up to get back into life and instead she has her child living in homeless accommodation? What the hell is wrong with her? Sort your **** out, take the handout and get your child into a proper routine and house as quickly as possible. Forever home ffs


  • Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wrote:
    Good article by Ellis o Hanlon...Sunday's indo.

    Good article. O'Hanlon. Sunday Independent. Pigs will fly.

    Rant follows.

    The day any of the in-bred vacuous anti-republican arseholes, and their mob culture revolving around loyalty to the West Brit agenda of the Fanning-Harris cult, in the Sunday Independent produce anything resembling "good" is the day after O'Hanlon, Eoghan Harris, O'Connor, Fanning, Ross and all the rest of them have been sacked.

    Thankfully, their new oligarch controller Denis O'Brien made Ireland that little bit better by first bankrupting Sir Anthony Pompous O'Reilly and then effectively sacking his loyalist Anne Harris as editor. He needs to intensify the purge quickly. Broken record O'Hanlon is the absolutely perfect place to start.

    Rant ends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    Shocking but not surprising


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,720 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Since market rents are above HAP limits, what motivation does a landlord (especially in Dublin) have to accept HAP unless there's an issue with the property? I know someone currently living in a flea pit (the local gangster is running a brothel upstairs) and they can't find anywhere that will accept HAP.

    Even if the rented properties Fleming was offered were semi-decent, what happens if the landlord decides in 2 years to increase the rent above HAP limits? Economic evictions are happening all over the place and many of the these tenants are forced to choose between homelessness and screwing over their landlord. I don't know what Fleming's previous circumstances were, but if she just came from a rented accommodation I can understand her wanting to hold out to see if she can get somewhere more secure. If not a council house then maybe something with a longer lease under RAS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    Since market rents are above HAP limits, what motivation does a landlord (especially in Dublin) have to accept HAP unless there's an issue with the property? I know someone currently living in a flea pit (the local gangster is running a brothel upstairs) and they can't find anywhere that will accept HAP.

    Even if the rented properties Fleming was offered were semi-decent, what happens if the landlord decides in 2 years to increase the rent above HAP limits? Economic evictions are happening all over the place and many of the these tenants are forced to choose between homelessness and screwing over their landlord. I don't know what Fleming's previous circumstances were, but if she just came from a rented accommodation I can understand her wanting to hold out to see if she can get somewhere more secure. If not a council house then maybe something with a longer lease under RAS.
    If so many people are genuinely homless why couldn't they have found a genuine person for thier campaign?


  • Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To be honest, I'm kinda relieved to read this.

    I know full well how deep the housing crisis runs and how complex homelessness can be, and if this woman and her child ... after all the publicity and her high profile ... were not being dealt with properly (as I now believe she was) then our society was truly in the crapper.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Alive1 wrote: »
    She was also part of a Sinn Fein-led delegation which travelled to Brussels to address the EU commission on the homeless crisis."

    That bit has to be of some concern.

    We can have a laugh and say "ooops, political party makes gaffe"...but if those who hold the purse strings hear that we sent over someone who actually has waived very considerable benefits conferred on her, they might be less than impressed. As others have noted, it does the plight of those in serious situations a considerable disservice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭seamusk84


    This story needs to get serious media attention. It should be on the 9 o clock news tonight.

    I am absolutely sick after reading it. Exactly what is wrong with this country. People like her are entitled to an easy life with the works handed to them on a plate, while the rest of us work 60 hour weeks just to stay afloat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Icsics wrote: »
    My hubby stays in the hotel this lady lives in for work. It's near the airport, but you need to get a shuttle bus to it . I've seen her myself, filling a bag from the breakfast buffet, getting her coffee & heading off in her gym gear.
    An absolute disgrace that the taxpayer is funding this lifestyle choice.

    Perhaps the lack of gyms close to the two places she's been offered makes them completely unsuitable for her?

    I feel so sorry for her daughter. She is now learning that life other people earn you demand for free by emotional blackmail and manipulating the media. This is how you shape your child's mind... by your own example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Corkman16


    This hotel charges over € 150 per night during the summer season.
    It's very handy for Tesco, just across the lights.

    She also gets free parking in the underground car park for her Nice Golf!

    The other housing offers didn't provide this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,720 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Smondie wrote: »
    If so many people are genuinely homless why couldn't they have found a genuine person for thier campaign?

    This isn't the third world. Just because someone is not destitute and has the option to decline offers of housing that are unsuitable doesn't mean they are not genuinely homeless. She's working part-time and completed an access course with the intention of going to university. She has a school-age daughter to take care of. If she believes by holding out a bit longer she can find a better, more secure home for her and her daughter, I see nothing unreasonable or dishonest about her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    This isn't the third world. Just because someone is not destitute and has the option to decline offers of housing that are unsuitable doesn't mean they are not genuinely homeless. She's working part-time and completed an access course with the intention of going to university. She has a school-age daughter to take care of. If she believes by holding out a bit longer she can find a better, more secure home for her and her daughter, I see nothing unreasonable or dishonest about her.


    If someone is refusing accommodation they are not homeless. They are voluntarily without the accomodation of thier choosing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    This isn't the third world. Just because someone is not destitute and has the option to decline offers of housing that are unsuitable doesn't mean they are not genuinely homeless. She's working part-time and completed an access course with the intention of going to university. She has a school-age daughter to take care of. If she believes by holding out a bit longer she can find a better, more secure home for her and her daughter, I see nothing unreasonable or dishonest about her.

    It's plain to see that she's strategically playing her "entitlements", it's the painting herself as a victim of a heartless system that is false and dishonest. She's been offered many chances and chose not to avail of them because to be subject to normal renting conditions is not good enough for her. She's the proverbial "give me my free house" type, in gym gear and coffee in hand for a change.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Good article. O'Hanlon. Sunday Independent. Pigs will fly.

    Rant follows.

    The day any of the in-bred vacuous anti-republican arseholes, and their mob culture revolving around loyalty to the West Brit agenda of the Fanning-Harris cult, in the Sunday Independent produce anything resembling "good" is the day after O'Hanlon, Eoghan Harris, O'Connor, Fanning, Ross and all the rest of them have been sacked.

    Thankfully, their new oligarch controller Denis O'Brien made Ireland that little bit better by first bankrupting Sir Anthony Pompous O'Reilly and then effectively sacking his loyalist Anne Harris as editor. He needs to intensify the purge quickly. Broken record O'Hanlon is the absolutely perfect place to start.

    Rant ends.

    sort of missed the point there . didn't you ?

    also you forgot to mention water charges and garda harassment of a legitimate political party


    Unless she is being stage managed by the shinners (very possible) she is just a greedy little scrounger who demands for free what most people work for all their life .

    Its very little to do with denis o brien


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Smondie wrote: »
    They are voluntarily without the accomodation of thier choosing.

    Like 90% of mortgage paying mugs, so!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭Ordinary man


    This isn't the third world. Just because someone is not destitute and has the option to decline offers of housing that are unsuitable doesn't mean they are not genuinely homeless. She's working part-time and completed an access course with the intention of going to university. She has a school-age daughter to take care of. If she believes by holding out a bit longer she can find a better, more secure home for her and her daughter, I see nothing unreasonable or dishonest about her.

    It's a kick in the balls to all the people who are trying to keep their family afloat by working long hours and cutting back on luxeries so their kids are looked after. Lots of people can't afford decent cars, or live where they want cos they have to pay bills while this attention seeker cries the poor mouth. She has no sense of personal responsibily behaving like a spoilt bitch crying because she can't get everything she wants handed to her for free


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭Poochie05


    Is this the constituent Mary Lou talked about in the Dail?


  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BaaLamb wrote: »
    In fairness I don't think living in a hotel is the greatest of lifestyles especially if you're kicked out on the street during the day. However, from my perspective it is a damn sight better than sleeping on streets or in hostel. At least you're dry, warm and safe.

    Accepting a two bed apartment, deposit paid for you, is infinitely better than either. Ray Darcy loved her, but Ryan Tubridy saw through her. We all have to take some responsibility for our situations. She twice refused a two bed home in favour of a single hotel room. WHY?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,311 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    This isn't the third world. Just because someone is not destitute and has the option to decline offers of housing that are unsuitable doesn't mean they are not genuinely homeless. She's working part-time and completed an access course with the intention of going to university. She has a school-age daughter to take care of. If she believes by holding out a bit longer she can find a better, more secure home for her and her daughter, I see nothing unreasonable or dishonest about her.

    If there is nothing unreasonable or dishonest about it, then why not state this in the documentary? Why was she not forthcoming about the offers of property? If it is all A-ok then surely this information would have been disclosed to give the public the full picture. If it was disclosed, then fair enough. The fact remains that two properties have been rejected, plus another offer from some bloke on the radio, on the grounds that it is not in a suitable location. I wish we could all live where we want, but that just is not the reality unfortunately.

    Nobody wants to see anybody homeless, but there is a bang of entitlement off this whole affair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Walter2016


    mynamejeff wrote: »


    Unless she is being stage managed by the shinners (very possible) she is just a greedy little scrounger who demands for free what most people work for all their life .

    She is stage managed by Sinn Fein. The same way the woman living in a car in Tallaght a couple of years ago was stage managed by Sinn Fein. (she had a house in Athy which she "didn't like")

    Generally most people can now see through the stage management of these types by Sinn Fein / PBP / AAA as they depend on social media to publicise the scam stories, but that same social media also provides the real truth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    BaaLamb wrote: »
    She apparently works part-time which is why she isn't eligible for the BTEA to attend the Trinity access programme course.

    She was giving up the job to attend college. Because I had been thinking myself that if she works part time and gets fis that would be enough to get her through college as it's what I did at one stage as a single parent in college. It would actually be more than BTEA. She said on the radio that the job wasn't suitable to do as well as college due to the hours. So she was putting herself out of the job to go to college (for an access programme so she would need to do another course to actually graduate with real employment prospects) and that is not what BTEA is for. It is not to just finance anybody who wants to go to college. She wasn't eligible due to the payment she was on- fis. Not necessarily because she was working. If she was in receipt of opfp or jobseekers she would have been entitled.

    Her supporters on social media are supporting her because they have the same mindset as her. All this "she's a single mother who got into Trinity and now the government "aren't letting" her go - justice for single parents". Its the same self entitlement as she has about the house. The government won't give me a forever house. The government are not responsible for sending you to Trinity and they are not responsible for giving you a house to live in for the rest of your life. There are many single parents saving for their forever home. While also paying their rent. And then she gets support from the media and slaps on the back. I've been sick of people going on about her- one person even said "isn't she doing great for your cause?" My "cause" being a single mother. Said to me while I'm working full time to save for my own house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Zxclnic


    Walter2016 wrote: »
    She is stage managed by Sinn Fein. The same way the woman living in a car in Tallaght a couple of years ago was stage managed by Sinn Fein. (she had a house in Athy which she "didn't like")

    Generally most people can now see through the stage management of these types by Sinn Fein / PBP / AAA as they depend on social media to publicise the scam stories, but that same social media also provides the real truth.

    What's the PBP/AAA scam?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Dawn Rider


    Corkman16 wrote: »

    She also gets free parking in the underground car park for her Nice Golf!

    The other housing offers didn't provide this!

    I wonder how this effects her insurance policy?

    Did she give her parents address as hers and then, quite rightly, say that the car is usually kept in the hotel as she's homeless?

    Maybe she did and they charged her more, and that's why she is seen in the breakfast room with the bag stocking up for the day ahead. ;)


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