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Why are there fcukall black swimmers in the Olympics?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer



    If you're from a poorer background, are athletic, and have the body-type that is associated with strong swimmers (lean, long arms & torso) you're probably more likely to pursue a financially lucrative sport like basketball. Swimming is not very lucrative. Black people tend to be poorer than whites, so that may explain why black athletic children tend not to favour swimming over lucrative sports.
    That is an excellent point. Young black people don't have the same luxury as their white counterparts by and large to pursue niche sports and Olympic sporting events like Swimming. The best black athletes in the US go for the monetary reward in sports such as basketball and americna football. If LeBron, Kobe et all had devoted their lives to swimming or track events in their early lives I'm sure they'd have a trophy cabinet full of olympic medals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭gw80


    Motorsports too, with the exception of Lewis Hamilton who's half white, especially motorcycle racing,
    Maybe it's just not their thing,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    On a related issue, Why are the Irish so bad at swimming?

    At least there's a physical reason why black people don't tend to be good swimmers. But what's our excuse?

    Used to be lack of facilities anyway, think we've improved a bit in that regard.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    On a continent where clean water shortages kill a heck of a lot of people, you could see why swimming about merrily in the stuff may not be the most popular sport.
    I've no idea about black people in other parts of the world, could very possibly be fairly attributed to socio-economic and physiological factors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Maybe in the US it's a bit like Golf as well, there has been no massive rise in black players reaching the top despite Tiger Woods success. Probably societal and economic stuff going on as well as the genetic thing.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 982 ✭✭✭VincePP


    Our greatest Olympian is a swimmer.

    I know Ronnie Delany personally - He's a crap swimmer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    So is
    Our greatest swimmer an Olympian.?

    Our greatest Olympian was a 'priest' :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    K-9 wrote: »
    Maybe in the US it's a bit like Golf as well, there has been no massive rise in black players reaching the top despite Tiger Woods success. Probably societal and economic stuff going on as well as the genetic thing.
    There's no probably about that one to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    On a related issue, Why are the Irish so bad at swimming?

    At least there's a physical reason why black people don't tend to be good swimmers. But what's our excuse?


    What's our excuse?

    Simple confusion really, because instead of going swimming, a lot of the Irish just end up swimming in drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    There's no probably about that one to be honest.

    Societal influence is a big thing too, look at South African rugby. Change can happen but it takes time and a lot of effort. Even here rugby has reached out to areas GAA and soccer used to dominate or in Ulster religious attitudes.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    On a related issue, Why are the Irish so bad at swimming?

    At least there's a physical reason why black people don't tend to be good swimmers. But what's our excuse?
    Do "we" need an excuse though? I mean, why aren't there French swimmers of note or gymnasts of note from the Faroe Islands? Ireland does not have Olympic sized pools too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Elliott S


    For historical reasons in the US, far fewer black people swim than white people. Interesting article about it here:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-11172054

    Think that's slowly changing.

    As for other countries, I don't know. There's less than ten swimming powers in the world and some of them have low black populations probably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    How come African countries are so bad at producing good skiers?

    RACISM.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    How come African countries are so bad at producing good skiers?

    RACISM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Read this book:

    https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Gene-Extraordinary-Athletic-Performance/dp/161723012X

    Fascinating stuff from start to finish.


  • Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Another reason in Ireland I believe is a lack of 50m swimming pools. Our pools are not long enough.
    Ireland does not have Olympic sized pools too.

    In the republic there are at least three Olympic-standard 50m swimming pools: National Aquatic Centre in Dublin; UCD; UL. There are also private 50-metre pools such as West Wood in Dublin. In the North there is at least one Olympic standard pool in Bangor, while Magherafelt has a 50 metre pool. There could be more that I'm unaware of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭764dak


    African countries are not that good at the Olympics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Allinall wrote: »
    Lack of facilities in their home countries.

    Are all black people from slums or rural villages? There are millions of black europeans, north americans and south americans living in countries with good swimming facilities , and Im sure theres quite a few pools in sub saharan africa as well..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    764dak wrote: »
    African countries are not that good at the Olympics.

    Caribbeans, Americans, French, British, Dutch and others with African ancestry seem to do exceptionally well though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,586 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Caribbeans, Americans, French, British, Dutch and others with African ancestry seem to do exceptionally well though.

    And Kenyans, Ethiopians, north Africans, Somalis...some under other flags


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Collie D wrote: »
    And Kenyans, Ethiopians, north Africans, Somalis...some under other flags

    Not at RACIST skiing though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,586 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Not at RACIST skiing though.

    It's those Nazi curling bastards you want to be wary of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Yeah, but you have to learn to swim first and African American communities have low participation in learning to swim classes and consequently more rate their swimming abilities as poor.....because even where you have pools lessons have to be paid for.
    Right, so, like everything else, any deviation from total equity everywhere can be explained by lack of privilege?

    You do realise that white people aren't actually on top in the United States anymore?
    Look it up:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    By household income, Indian-Americans (i.e. people of ancestry of the country of India, not Native American "Indians"). Followed by Taiwanese and Philippine Americans. Whitey does not make an appearance until #4, Australian Americans. On average, Asian-American households make about $17,000 more per year than White American households.

    Despite this, the USA swimming team is whiter than a trailer park after a snowstorm.

    https://www.google.ie/?gws_rd=cr&ei=-YenV9GhD8yWgAbM9IzgCA#q=usa+swimming+team+olympics+2016

    If representation and succecss in sports is linked with economic "privilege" then how come Asians, especially Indians, aren't dominating everything in the USA?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,372 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I dislike the word "black" to describe human beings of a different colour to pale people. I think it's racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭764dak


    Race doesn't exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,372 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    This one should go down under "if a white guy said this..." :eek:, yet because it's a black guy seemingly totally acceptable with Youtube and the masses.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Wigglepuppy


    I didn't and neither did the researchers. Trying to be funny? Then learn the distinction between the terms used first.
    Yeah he probably was trying to be funny. Jeesh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    the water is too cold ??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Why don't pakistani's play soccer?
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    .Because every time they get a corner they open a convenience store! corner shop:pac:

    FYP



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