Nike gone?

mike12 · 04-08-2016 11:02AM

Reading the press release they are upping the number if pros they are going to sign but it will be just to wear there clothes.
Rory will be wearing Nike gear for the rest of his contract, remember he was wearing Oakley while he was using Titleist clubs.
They have signed 10 new players this year.
He has already got a Scotty so I reckon he is heading back to Titleist, might even do it for free.

Golfgorfield · 04-08-2016 11:25AM

mike12 wrote: »

Reading the press release they are upping the number if pros they are going to sign but it will be just to wear there clothes.
Rory will be wearing Nike gear for the rest of his contract, remember he was wearing Oakley while he was using Titleist clubs.
They have signed 10 new players this year.
He has already got a Scotty so I reckon he is heading back to Titleist, might even do it for free.

Rory has a manager/agent, you can be certain he wont do anything for free!

BoardsMember · 04-08-2016 11:27AM

Rory do something like that for free? The guy that moved from Nike to Titleist, and one of the biggest "brands" in golf, use equipment without sponsorship. I'll eat my hat if that happens.

valoren · 04-08-2016 11:45AM

Golf is their worst performing sector. Sales have been falling for 3 years straight. The writing was on the wall. The company is simply refocusing investment on their core strength; Apparel. UA has made some in-roads into Nike's competitive advantage there. To divest from club manufacturing is a good business decision.

mike12 · 04-08-2016 11:47AM

Why, he already has the putter made for him, he is getting the money from the Nike contract.
If Taylormade offer him money but Titleist decide not to, will he play clubs he is not happy with for a million quid a year?

Paddy says the changes in the wedge rule cost him a shot around.

If Rory thinks that the Nike putter was costing him a shot or 2 a round over a year that is huge loss of prize money and chances to win events.
Is it not his family that are doing his management now and he has said no more contracts that effect his golf.

valoren · 04-08-2016 11:52AM

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Interesting news. Nike's golf club sales were in decline, so it's no surprise really.

What it means for for McIlroy is anyone's guess. Depends totally on the contract he signed.

Woods is a red herring at this stage. His golfing goose is cooked.

He might not be playing at all but Tiger is a valuable asset for Nike.
He is making the transition from competition to becoming a brand.
Michael Jordan doesn't play anymore but his brand is still making billions for Nike annually years after he stopped competing.

My guess is that their aim for Tiger is for 'Tiger' branded apparel and shoes.

fullstop · 04-08-2016 11:54AM

mike12 wrote: »

Why, he already has the putter made for him, he is getting the money from the Nike contract.
If Taylormade offer him money but Titleist decide not to, will he play clubs he is not happy with for a million quid a year?

Paddy says the changes in the wedge rule cost him a shot around.

If Rory thinks that the Nike putter was costing him a shot or 2 a round over a year that is huge loss of prize money and chances to win events.
Is it not his family that are doing his management now and he has said no more contracts that effect his golf.

How do you know he wouldn't be happy with TM? He used TM clubs when he was a kid before Titleist started supplying him.

Henry Ford III · 04-08-2016 11:59AM

valoren wrote: »

He might not be playing at all but Tiger is a valuable asset for Nike.
He is making the transition from competition to becoming a brand.
Michael Jordan doesn't play anymore but his brand is still making billions for Nike annually years after he stopped competing.

My guess is that their aim for Tiger is for 'Tiger' branded apparel and shoes.

I reckon he's a liability at this stage.

Too many bad things out there concerning his upbringing, personality, and infidelity.

He's not a positive role model in any meaningful sense.

Jordan is an entirely different animal.

BigChap1759 · 04-08-2016 12:09PM

mike12 wrote: »

Why, he already has the putter made for him, he is getting the money from the Nike contract.
If Taylormade offer him money but Titleist decide not to, will he play clubs he is not happy with for a million quid a year?

Paddy says the changes in the wedge rule cost him a shot around.

If Rory thinks that the Nike putter was costing him a shot or 2 a round over a year that is huge loss of prize money and chances to win events.
Is it not his family that are doing his management now and he has said no more contracts that effect his golf.

It's not about Rory getting the clubs he wants - it's about what a company is willing to sign him for and that being more than his rivals are offered.

The reality is that there is virtually nothing between clubs of differing manufacturers these days because of the rules - putter might be a slight exception but more a mental factor given that most manufacturers copy the shapes made by others.

Loire · 04-08-2016 12:17PM

Tee to green, Rory is way up there, so the driver / woods / irons aren't the issue really. The interesting move will be to a new putter. And as we all know, a putter is a very individual thing.

HighLine · 04-08-2016 12:20PM

FYP

Loire wrote: »

Tee to green fairway, Rory is way up there, so the driver / woods / irons aren't the issue really. The interesting move will be to a new putter. And as we all know, a putter is a very individual thing.

X200 · 04-08-2016 12:21PM

Disappointing, I played many Nike clubs over the years and they were as good as anything else. I can see a lot more players going to the ridiculous PXG.

Jawgap · 04-08-2016 12:28PM

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I reckon he's a liability at this stage.

Too many bad things out there concerning his upbringing, personality, and infidelity.

He's not a positive role model in any meaningful sense.

Jordan is an entirely different animal.

Definitely not a liability - the Yanks love a good comeback story, especially if it involves someone finding Jesus and gaining redemption in the eyes of their family!!

The worst thing about any possible comeback he might experience is that Jaden Smith might pitch to play him in the movie.

Spieth is a phenomenal golfing talent but he is a bit of a charisma free zone.

Henry Ford III · 04-08-2016 12:36PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Definitely not a liability - the Yanks love a good comeback story, especially if it involves someone finding Jesus and gaining redemption in the eyes of their family!!

The worst thing about any possible comeback he might experience is that Jaden Smith might pitch to play him in the movie.

Spieth is a phenomenal golfing talent but he is a bit of a charisma free zone.

No comeback for Woods I reckon.

He's broken physically, punch drunk mentally and his reputation is badly tarnished also.

mike12 · 04-08-2016 12:46PM

His wedge play is poor it maybe the ball, wedge or pilot error.
It took him a year to find a driver he liked from Nike.
Will be interesting to see what happens hope he does what is best for his golf game and not his pocket.
Tiger might improve using better clubsðŸ˜.
Didn't faldo get in hot water over comments he made around the crap ball Tiger had to play with.

Benny Cake · 04-08-2016 07:33PM

Good read on the situation so far:
http://www.mygolfspy.com/the-nike-golf-shutdown-what-we-know-so-far/

Golfgorfield · 05-08-2016 08:23AM

Interesting about Rory and PXG, i did speak to a friend yesterday whos well connected on tour and the latest situation with Rory is that hes discussing a major "bag" sponsor, so basically a non golf organisation on his bag, and he wants freedom of equipment choice across the board.
I think everyone would love to see that, but i feel there may not be a company willing to fork out huge sums just for a bag?

Jawgap · 05-08-2016 08:39AM

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Interesting about Rory and PXG, i did speak to a friend yesterday whos well connected on tour and the latest situation with Rory is that hes discussing a major "bag" sponsor, so basically a non golf organisation on his bag, and he wants freedom of equipment choice across the board.
I think everyone would love to see that, but i feel there may not be a company willing to fork out huge sums just for a bag?

I think that's the equivalent of a footballer expressing his undying loyalty to the club - it usually happens after they've tested the market and found little or no interest.

Saying that, the freedom to choose equipment and get himself back more on a winning track could prove be the best thing over the longer term.

HighLine · 05-08-2016 08:57AM

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Interesting about Rory and PXG, i did speak to a friend yesterday whos well connected on tour and the latest situation with Rory is that hes discussing a major "bag" sponsor, so basically a non golf organisation on his bag, and he wants freedom of equipment choice across the board.
I think everyone would love to see that, but i feel there may not be a company willing to fork out huge sums just for a bag?

Keep the Nike driver, back to AP2's and the scotty whilst still being paid by Nike to wear their clothing and another company to have their brand plastered all over his bag. Sounds ideal for him!

Golfgorfield · 05-08-2016 09:00AM

HighLine wrote: »

Keep the Nike driver, back to AP2's and the scotty whilst still being paid by Nike to wear their clothing and another company to have their brand plastered all over his bag. Sounds ideal for him!

He never used AP2 and never will, hes a blade only player, i seriously doubt he will keep any Nike clubs, my hunch says hel have Bose on the bag and fill it with Titleist clubs and back to the ProV1x.

Jawgap · 05-08-2016 09:01AM

AdamD wrote: »

You think Rory McIlroy, World #4, with 4 major championships is getting little or no interest from sponsors?

Christ

Problem is most of the big spenders have made their commitments, established their marketing and business plans etc and based all that around golfers they've already signed.

I'm sure plenty of sponsors would be happy to get him at a bargain - but it's doubtful many will have the spare cash to meet or even come close to what he'd expect, even if they could slot him into their plans.

HighLine · 05-08-2016 09:06AM

Golfgorfield wrote: »

He never used AP2 and never will, hes a blade only player, i seriously doubt he will keep any Nike clubs, my hunch says hel have Bose on the bag and fill it with Titleist clubs and back to the ProV1x.

You're right... MB's I think they were? And as for keeping the Nike driver... probably not gonna happen but the way he his hitting it is one of the few positive aspects of his game right now.

Golfgorfield · 05-08-2016 09:11AM

Problem is, hes contracted for Nike clothes for another 6 years, so he wont play Taylormade(ties in with Adidas clothes) Or Cobra(puma)
So his only option will be a company with no clothing connection ,PXG, Titleist, Mizuno would be all high on the list, however Titleist and Mizuno are notorious low payers. So if he chases the dollars hel go to PXG, and if he chooses to go his own way, id guess hel do a bag deal and put some Titleists in there.

slingerz · 05-08-2016 09:25AM

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Problem is, hes contracted for Nike clothes for another 6 years, so he wont play Taylormade(ties in with Adidas clothes) Or Cobra(puma)
So his only option will be a company with no clothing connection ,PXG, Titleist, Mizuno would be all high on the list, however Titleist and Mizuno are notorious low payers. So if he chases the dollars hel go to PXG, and if he chooses to go his own way, id guess hel do a bag deal and put some Titleists in there.

I reckon it'll be PXG all the way.

Titleist would be best for his game IMO

CMOTDibbler · 05-08-2016 09:30AM

Jawgap wrote: »

Problem is most of the big spenders have made their commitments, established their marketing and business plans etc and based all that around golfers they've already signed.

I'm sure plenty of sponsors would be happy to get him at a bargain - but it's doubtful many will have the spare cash to meet or even come close to what he'd expect, even if they could slot him into their plans.

The point is that Rory doesn't actually need that cash any more. The downside of being tied to one particular club manufacturer can't be outweighed by money at this stage of his career. He clearly had difficulty with the Nike clubs and particularly the putter. He was still tweaking it last year.

If he has a free hand to choose his clubs, even for a year until he finds something that suits him, he's hardly going to be missing the cash. Nike will still be paying him for the clothing and footwear, so he doesn't need anything like the kind of money they were paying him for the full kit out from a club sponsor. He probably only needs to make up another $10 million from bag and clubs, so even if he falls short of that figure it won't be far off what Nike were paying.

I can't believe I actually said only $10 million

luvthegame · 05-08-2016 09:31AM

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Problem is, hes contracted for Nike clothes for another 6 years, so he wont play Taylormade(ties in with Adidas clothes) Or Cobra(puma)
So his only option will be a company with no clothing connection ,PXG, Titleist, Mizuno would be all high on the list, however Titleist and Mizuno are notorious low payers. So if he chases the dollars hel go to PXG, and if he chooses to go his own way, id guess hel do a bag deal and put some Titleists in there.

I presume he will have to sign with someone to have access to their fitters/trucks?

CMOTDibbler · 05-08-2016 09:34AM

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Problem is, hes contracted for Nike clothes for another 6 years, so he wont play Taylormade(ties in with Adidas clothes) Or Cobra(puma)
So his only option will be a company with no clothing connection ,PXG, Titleist, Mizuno would be all high on the list, however Titleist and Mizuno are notorious low payers. So if he chases the dollars hel go to PXG, and if he chooses to go his own way, id guess hel do a bag deal and put some Titleists in there.

AFAIK, Taylormade don't always do the full deal on clothing. Martin Kaymer wears Boss clothing and uses Taylormade clubs. A lot of players just use Taylormade woods, so they're not picky about the kind of deals they do.

Golfgorfield · 05-08-2016 09:40AM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

AFAIK, Taylormade don't always do the full deal on clothing. Martin Kaymer wears Boss clothing and uses Taylormade clubs. A lot of players just use Taylormade woods, so they're not picky about the kind of deals they do.

Look at Kaymers golf bag, stand alone sponsor, hes on a club only deal with TM

CMOTDibbler · 05-08-2016 10:04AM

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Look at Kaymers golf bag, stand alone sponsor, hes on a club only deal with TM

That was my point. Taylormade don't always insist on clubs and clothing deals. So McIlroy could do a clubs only deal with them.

Golfgorfield · 05-08-2016 10:10AM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

That was my point. Taylormade don't always insist on clubs and clothing deals. So McIlroy could do a clubs only deal with them.

Yes, but highly unlikely, if hes gonna do that type of deal it'll be back to Titleist id imagine.

Nike gone?

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