Nike gone?

CMOTDibbler

Letree wrote: »

45'5 is still pretty jacked. http://www.golfer-today.co.uk/how-loft-has-changed-on-irons/ The old PW's were 50 or so

There's some exaggeration in that article. A quick look at the lofts at www.golfclubspec.com show that even over thirty years ago there were differences between manufacturers and even between the same manufacturer's offerings at the same time.

The Ping Eye2+ irons from 1983 had a 4 iron at 24.5° and a PW at 48.5°. The Ping Eye2 irons from the same year were 25° and 50°

The Callaway X12 irons from 1998 were 23° and 46°. They also had a 51° gap wedge. A lot of manufacturers up to then often didn't even include wedges in their sets; stopping at the 9 iron.

Interestingly, Wilson Dynapower Turfrider Sole (I jest not ) clubs from 1962 had a PW at 51° a 4 iron at 27° and a gap wedge at 53°. The gap it was filling was between the PW and the SW which was 55° :eek:

My (rather long-winded) point is that there's never really been an across the board standard set of lofts between manufacturers at any time. Before the mid to late 1990s, there were sometimes years between models so there may have been an impression of standard lofts, but that's ignoring the often large discrepancies between one manufacturer and the next. It also ignores the fact that many golf pros would adjust loft for their cutomers, so off the shelf lofts often never made it to the golf course.

BigChap1759

Letree wrote: »

Its all part of the same problem, PW's and SW's have been part of the game for generations. The SW has to remain high lofted to get people out of bunkers so they couldn't strengthen its loft. They had no problem strengthening PW's though. Now we've ended up with large gaps due to the strengthening of the lofts. The lofts were strengthened so the manufacturer could claim more distance on their latest irons. A sales gimmick in effect. The AP1's have ended up with two gap wedges as a result.

I think you're getting too hung up on the number on the back of the club when what really matters is the loft - so the4 iron is now 3 iron loft and so forth through the set

BigChap1759

Letree wrote: »

Its all part of the same problem, PW's and SW's have been part of the game for generations. The SW has to remain high lofted to get people out of bunkers so they couldn't strengthen its loft. They had no problem strengthening PW's though. Now we've ended up with large gaps due to the strengthening of the lofts. The lofts were strengthened so the manufacturer could claim more distance on their latest irons. A sales gimmick in effect. The AP1's have ended up with two gap wedges as a result.

I think you're getting too hung up on the number on the back of the club when what really matters is the loft - so the4 iron is now 3 iron loft and so forth through the set

Golfgraffix

How about Spalding Golf for Rory??

fullstop

Golfgraffix wrote: »

How about Spalding Golf for Rory??

Done deal already

http://www.golfcentraldaily.com/2016/08/rory-mcilroy-signs-three-year-deal-with.html

Golfgraffix

fullstop wrote: »

Done deal already

http://www.golfcentraldaily.com/2016/08/rory-mcilroy-signs-three-year-deal-with.html

meath4sam

Mcguirks have a sale on Nike clubs, could be some value. Set of Combo or blades 399.

BigChap1759

meath4sam wrote: »

Mcguirks have a sale on Nike clubs, could be some value. Set of Combo or blades 399.

Amazing value there if you can handle using Nike gear - staff bag €149 and stand bags €89

Seve OB

BigChap1759 wrote: »

Amazing value there if you can handle using Nike gear - staff bag €149 and stand bags €89

they actually made pretty decent clubs. i love my pro-combos

BigChap1759

Seve OB wrote: »

they actually made pretty decent clubs. i love my pro-combos

Just meant that I know a lot of golfers, especially older ones who would not use Nike clubs for whatever reason

AGC

Jason Day has signed a deal with them for shoes and clothes

HighLine

AGC wrote: »

Jason Day has signed a deal with them for shoes and clothes

I presume Adidas have already fully sold off Taylormade? Wonder will Nike go fishing for more big former Adidas/Taylormade players.

Seve OB

HighLine wrote: »

I presume Adidas have already fully sold off Taylormade? Wonder will Nike go fishing for more big former Adidas/Taylormade players.

I expect to see Rory playing with Taylormade drivers next year. Don't expect him to sign any contracts though, so he might just change around a bit.

I also see him playing with the Nike balls until the stock has been depleted

BigChap1759

Seve OB wrote: »

I expect to see Rory playing with Taylormade drivers next year. Don't expect him to sign any contracts though, so he might just change around a bit.

I also see him playing with the Nike balls until the stock has been depleted

He has reserved a 3yr supply apparently - can't remember where I read that

ForeRight

BigChap1759 wrote: »

He has reserved a 3yr supply apparently - can't remember where I read that

He said it in a recent interview that I saw

Seve OB

BigChap1759 wrote: »

He has reserved a 3yr supply apparently - can't remember where I read that

For you and me, getting the most out of each ball, that would probably be a couple of dozen boxes and even then we would be well stocked. Rors probably needs one of those lock ups you see on storage wars!

Senecio

Seve OB wrote: »

For you and me, getting the most out of each ball, that would probably be a couple of dozen boxes and even then we would be well stocked. Rors probably needs one of those lock ups you see on storage wars!

From a mate of mine that played the Japanese tour. 6 balls per 18 holes isn't uncommon for the pros. Most swap in a new ball every 3-4 holes.

mike12

Senecio wrote: »

From a mate of mine that played the Japanese tour. 6 balls per 18 holes isn't uncommon for the pros. Most swap in a new ball every 3-4 holes.

There will be no throwing them into the crowd either they will be going in the practice bag.

RoadRunner

Are nike tour level golf balls comparable with other brands? I remember looking into getting some but I couldn't tell which were the tour level balls and which were the distance balls. The product descriptions and names didn't make it clear. I think there was red, white, black and other buzz words such as platnum, nike one, rzn etc. I think I found descriptions were written to make each ball sound like THE perfect ball for me. Other ball manufucturers make a clearer distinction between their products (but still not clear enough)

doublecross

RoadRunner wrote: »

Are nike tour level golf balls comparable with other brands? I remember looking into getting some but I couldn't tell which were the tour level balls and which were the distance balls. The product descriptions and names didn't make it clear. I think there was red, white, black and other buzz words such as platnum, nike one, rzn etc. I think I found descriptions were written to make each ball sound like THE perfect ball for me. Other ball manufucturers make a clearer distinction between their products (but still not clear enough)

The higher quality Nike balls have the word "tour" written on the front of the box somewhere. The price is a giveaway as well. The tour balls were priced up there with the Pro v1s.
If you went on to the the nike website and put in your info (swing speed, handicap ...) it would recommend which of their balls would be best suited.

dennyire

Senecio wrote: »

From a mate of mine that played the Japanese tour. 6 balls per 18 holes isn't uncommon for the pros. Most swap in a new ball every 3-4 holes.

Yeah Rory said that himself in the intweview