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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Anyone with maize, what's this year's crop looking like so far?

    Aye filled ten pits couple of weeks ago and hope to do that same in maybe another fortnight, seems to be a good crop, eight hours from the field to the pit with one load is a fair distance though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭stretch film


    kowtow wrote: »
    I'm amazed at the number of surplus bales neighbours have been taking off this year, actually since 2013 when we started everyone seems to be much more on top of grass management than they appeared to me then - although I might have been missing what was in front of my face.

    One thing that does strike me about small crops of surplus - I know quality is often fantastic, but is there never an issue with manure in the cut? anything you can do to avoid it?

    Was actually saying, in reply to freedom ,that im considering feeding some to plug a gap in the grass wedge.
    Saw a met soil moisture figure of 50ml for this area so growth is still compromised.
    Reading my own post I can see how it could be misinterpreted :)

    On bringing in dung pats if the grass was soft in the previous round then so was the cow. Should be low enough to the ground .

    Relative was talking about scathains (?) recently. Basically collecting dried cow dungs for fuel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Good God, what's become of this thread? :)

    Gathering cow pats for fuel!

    There was a time we were special because we milked a handful of cows, now we're gathering cow scat for fuel...!


    Have ye lost all respect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭stretch film


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Good God, what's become of this thread? :)

    Gathering cow pats for fuel!

    There was a time we were special because we milked a handful of cows, now we're gathering cow scat for fuel...!


    Have ye lost all respect?

    Duckin and diving dawg....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Was actually saying, in reply to freedom ,that im considering feeding some to plug a gap in the grass wedge.
    Saw a met soil moisture figure of 50ml for this area so growth is still compromised.
    Reading my own post I can see how it could be misinterpreted :)

    On bringing in dung pats if the grass was soft in the previous round then so was the cow. Should be low enough to the ground .

    Relative was talking about scathains (?) recently. Basically collecting dried cow dungs for fuel.

    I think the rain over the weekend has got us back to growth. I got your meaning wrong as well. Bales out here since yesterday. We were pre-mowing a good bit of the last rotation bales were in for a bit of quality as well as quantity. We've been around 20kg short of gr until recently.

    Second cut aftergrass and a bit of an extension to the rotation are getting us out under the wire now. Pre-mowing after all I posted against doing it certainly helped keep us going through July. Clearout was good as always but without supplement I think yields would have suffered as quality was poor enough in places.

    I don't know where this notion that managing cows at grass is straightforward comes from. Turn your back for five minutes this year and something is suffering and you'll get a serious kick in the tank.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭stretch film


    It was an old relative recounting their youth .
    Back in the day the grass probably was somewhere between fibre and cellulose.
    I'd say the cow must have been shidding briquettes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,714 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    I think the rain over the weekend has got us back to growth. I got your meaning wrong as well. Bales out here since yesterday. We were pre-mowing a good bit of the last rotation bales were in for a bit of quality as well as quantity. We've been around 20kg short of gr until recently.

    Second cut aftergrass and a bit of an extension to the rotation are getting us out under the wire now. Pre-mowing after all I posted against doing it certainly helped keep us going through July. Clearout was good as always but without supplement I think yields would have suffered as quality was poor enough in places.

    I don't know where this notion that managing cows at grass is straightforward comes from. Turn your back for five minutes this year and something is suffering and you'll get a serious kick in the tank.

    Really tricky to keep grass right this summer especially since May .grass looked good ,grew well for most part but bar a few short spells of sunny weather it just didn't have the same punch as last 2 years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Duckin and diving dawg....

    "But clay and clay differs in dignity,
    Whose dust is both alike".


    (Knowing) "Indignities men come to know dignities".



    Like...:).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Dawggone wrote: »
    "But clay and clay differs in dignity,
    Whose dust is both alike".


    (Knowing) "Indignities men come to know dignities".



    Like...:).

    Now I'm really confused . Nothing unusual in that, but I'm definitely missing something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭mayota


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Good God, what's become of this thread? :)

    Gathering cow pats for fuel!

    There was a time we were special because we milked a handful of cows, now we're gathering cow scat for fuel...!


    Have ye lost all respect?


    Plan B


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Dawggone wrote:
    There was a time we were special because we milked a handful of cows, now we're ...

    Gathering cow pats for fuel!

    Dawggone wrote:
    Good God, what's become of this thread?

    "Some falls are means the happier to arise"..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    kowtow wrote: »
    "Some falls are means the happier to arise"..

    Quit showing off the two of ye.

    Evidence of a misspent youth is all it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭stretch film


    Dawggone wrote: »
    "But clay and clay differs in dignity,
    Whose dust is both alike".


    (Knowing) "Indignities men come to know dignities".



    Like...:).

    Ahhh this lady is dignity personified.
    Her mother died young and as the oldest girl you can imagine the responsibilities she would have taken on .
    You did what you had to in those days is what she always says.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,780 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    are there any 100% autumn calving herds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    whelan2 wrote: »
    are there any 100% autumn calving herds
    Plenty of them in the north and loads in the UK can't think of any in the south of Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Chap in my DG is well over 50% autumn calving, and was considering going fully autumn calving before, I'd assume getting sufficient liquid quota is the main thing holding him back. He's gone this way because he's stocked over 4cows/ha on the milking block.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,714 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Would make perfect sense if all milk was contracted through ,liquid/winter baileys type scheme .calve from late September to early mid December ,cows on steady indoor diet and hit high steady peak then from Feb /March on hit grass and watch the solids rise on small ammount of meal .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yewtree


    When are lads planning on selling their culls this year? Usually sell here in November. thinking of selling this year after scanning last week of August to reduce stocking rate and make it easy to build grass and stretch it out as long as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Group thinking in the last few meetings was to sell culls earlier this year as likely to be a flush of em come on stream later in the year, beat the rush so to speak. Locked up here so drying off high scc/ bad feet culls with autumn calvers in next few weeks and will see if a feed lot may be interested and will milk on any other empties, those with low volume generally fatten away on milkers diet and can go straight to factory from parlour before spring calving starts and good milkers should respond to winter diet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Chap in my DG is well over 50% autumn calving, and was considering going fully autumn calving before, I'd assume getting sufficient liquid quota is the main thing holding him back. He's gone this way because he's stocked over 4cows/ha on the milking block.

    Liquid quota is plentiful to buy inside Glanbia and has been for years!
    At times it couldn't be sold for lack of demand
    I did know one 100% Autumn herd but they sold the herd and went into something else
    Speaks volumes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Update from Clonakilty Grass only 18.2kg/day at 4.50%F & 3.90% P - 1.53MS/cow
    Grass + Clover 22.1 kg/day at 4.41%F & 3.69%P - 1.78 MS/cow

    https://twitter.com/PastureBase/status/761134595437895680?lang=en

    https://twitter.com/PastureBase/status/761137010325225473?lang=en

    At the risk of causing outright war on thread there:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    whelan2 wrote: »
    are there any 100% autumn calving herds

    Know of one up near hackballs cross, as fair as I'm aware he's 100% Autumn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭stanflt


    OverRide wrote: »
    Liquid quota is plentiful to buy inside Glanbia and has been for years!
    At times it couldn't be sold for lack of demand
    I did know one 100% Autumn herd but they sold the herd and went into something else
    Speaks volumes

    No it's not- I've been buying for last 10yrs

    Got 127 litres last yr when I applied for 2000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yewtree


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Group thinking in the last few meetings was to sell culls earlier this year as likely to be a flush of em come on stream later in the year, beat the rush so to speak. Locked up here so drying off high scc/ bad feet culls with autumn calvers in next few weeks and will see if a feed lot may be interested and will milk on any other empties, those with low volume generally fatten away on milkers diet and can go straight to factory from parlour before spring calving starts and good milkers should respond to winter diet.

    Same thinking at our discussion group I will also have some surplus April calving cows to sell. It's hard to see much of a market for them at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,780 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    stanflt wrote: »
    No it's not- I've been buying for last 10yrs

    Got 127 litres last yr when I applied for 2000

    Do you have to buy through a scheme it can you buy privately?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    stanflt wrote: »
    No it's not- I've been buying for last 10yrs

    Got 127 litres last yr when I applied for 2000

    Well that's definitely not my experience


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭stanflt


    OverRide wrote: »
    Well that's definitely not my experience


    If you only want small litres you will get them- anyone looking for more than 250 litres never gets them

    So they are not freely available


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭stanflt


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Do you have to buy through a scheme it can you buy privately?

    Scheme only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    OverRide wrote: »
    Well that's definitely not my experience

    Not surprising really as you seem to have a different experience to most posters of dealing with glanbia administered schemes. I wonder has Jim's man in Africa opened a boards account?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭atlantic mist


    Ya we enquired bout getting liquid quota and milk manager told us we couldn't


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