Xbox One General Discussion - Part 2 (Please Read 1st Post)

01-08-2016 04:11PM

beercr8te wrote: »

I wonder will Smyths be doing a midnight opening for the One S? Nothing on website and nobody answering phone. The excitement is too much now the release is so near.

Can't see a midnight opening tbh

TitianGerm · 01-08-2016 04:34PM

I wonder what demand will be like for them tomorrow.

beercr8te · 01-08-2016 04:43PM

emmetkenny wrote: »

I wonder what demand will be like for them tomorrow.

I'd say demand will be decent enough, the Ultra HD Bluray player alone in the One S is reason enough to get one. Dedicated Ultra HD players start at just under 500 euro, Currys are selling Samsungs Ultra HD UBD K8500 for 600 euro.

Microsoft made my day when they announced that built in player, now I can finally make fully use out of my UHD TV.:D

Captain Chaos · 01-08-2016 04:53PM

beercr8te wrote: »

I'd say demand will be decent enough, the Ultra HD Bluray player alone in the One S is reason enough to get one. Dedicated Ultra HD players start at just under 500 euro, Currys are selling Samsungs Ultra HD UBD K8500 for 600 euro.

Microsoft made my day when they announced that built in player, now I can finally make fully use out of my UHD TV.:D

Part of the reason of it being a cheap 4K player is that the One S only supports 4K with HDR10, it does not have the features to do the full Dolby Vision HDR standard that the Samsung and Panasonic 4K players can do.

That's why those players cost more, they are full spec 4K.

Lucious Sweet · 01-08-2016 05:01PM

Quick question about games saved on external HD. Can these be moved to a different console if one was to change consoles?

01-08-2016 05:05PM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Part of the reason of it being a cheap 4K player is that the One S only supports 4K with HDR10, it does not have the features to do the full Dolby Vision HDR standard that the Samsung and Panasonic 4K players can do.

That's why those players cost more, they are full spec 4K.

My reading was that samsung and sony were both backing HDR10 and LG do DV but were promising an update to support HDR10 also. While many of the bigger film studios were pushing DV.

Has the porn industry expressed a preference for either one yet? That will pretty much settle the matter!!!!

mossym · 01-08-2016 05:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Has the porn industry expressed a preference for either one yet? That will pretty much settle the matter!!!!

is that old nugget still doing the rounds? that was thrown out at blu-ray/hddvd time as well, and was a myth then as well. may have been true for VHS when that was the main delivery mechanism for porn, but since widespread internet came along how influential really is that industry on physical (no pun) media? little or none i'd wager

Stone Deaf 4evr · 01-08-2016 05:18PM

beercr8te wrote: »

I'd say demand will be decent enough, the Ultra HD Bluray player alone in the One S is reason enough to get one. Dedicated Ultra HD players start at just under 500 euro, Currys are selling Samsungs Ultra HD UBD K8500 for 600 euro.

Microsoft made my day when they announced that built in player, now I can finally make fully use out of my UHD TV.:D

I'm interested to see how it takes off. If you were in the market for a UHD player you'd be mad to buy anything else imo.

runawaybishop · 01-08-2016 05:21PM

Lucious Sweet wrote: »

Quick question about games saved on external HD. Can these be moved to a different console if one was to change consoles?

Yes, you can move them as much as you want. You'll see a message that the game is getting ready to start the first time you use a title.

01-08-2016 05:23PM

emmetkenny wrote: »

I wonder what demand will be like for them tomorrow.

Pre orders have sold out on amazon uk and game uk by the looks of it.

You cant seem to pre order through the smyths website now as well.

EDIT out of stock on the Irish MS store now

beercr8te · 01-08-2016 05:41PM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Part of the reason of it being a cheap 4K player is that the One S only supports 4K with HDR10, it does not have the features to do the full Dolby Vision HDR standard that the Samsung and Panasonic 4K players can do.

That's why those players cost more, they are full spec 4K.

I understand that and it makes no difference unless your TV is capable of displaying Dolby Vision, the majority of people with UHD sets can't make use of Dolby Vision HDR or any HDR, it's only since last year that sets on the market have had HDR capable screens. Also the standards are not truly finalised for HDR.

McDermotX · 01-08-2016 05:52PM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Part of the reason of it being a cheap 4K player is that the One S only supports 4K with HDR10, it does not have the features to do the full Dolby Vision HDR standard that the Samsung and Panasonic 4K players can do.

That's why those players cost more, they are full spec 4K.

No UHD Blu-ray player does DolbyVision playback yet, so HDR10 is the default position with regard to UHD BD at the moment, discs will have to encoded with the DV extended information, but will also contain the necessary HDR10 bitstream information for playback on HDR10 only devices (Players and TVs).

Dolbyvision is very niche right now, with very limited support on Netflix and Amazon, along with LG and Vizio hardware support. That being said, some of it looks absolutely fantastic, but there's no frame of reference to compare it to UHD BD-wise until later on in the year, and even then not every manufacturer has got behind the Dolbyvision standard.

Obviously haven't got a hands-on with the UHD playback of the Xbox One S yet, but I suspect it'll do the job well, though there may be an issue for some with regard to HD audio if they've not got a HDCP2.2 compliant receiver (i.e. only a single HDMI output on the One S, ARC audio is notoriously picky with regard to bitsreams on some TVs etc)

Limpar · 02-08-2016 06:59AM

Is anyone doing trade-in deals for the S over here?

Captain Chaos · 02-08-2016 07:59AM

Limpar wrote: »

Is anyone doing trade-in deals for the S over here?

I think Gamestop are giving you €160 off if you trade in a 500gb One or €200 for a 1Tb One against the S.

CatInABox · 02-08-2016 08:13AM

The UWP version of Groove is out now, with background audio.

It's pretty great, so much faster than the older version, navigating it is instantaneous, with none of the old "Ah, you're moving to a new screen, wait 30 seconds while I fetch your music collection from an old filing cabinet." It's also got the latest modes that came out recently on Windows 10.

It is, essentially, the Windows 10 app, so if you've used that, then you've used this.

The only problem with it so far is that it's pretty buggy. Crashed about 4 times so far, but one of those was expected. Going into the app for the first time will crash the app, so just go in again.

All in all, very worthwhile upgrade.

EDIT: Actually, it might only be live in the preview, I thought it was just generally available. Perhaps they're holding off until the bugs are fixed.

TitianGerm · 02-08-2016 08:53AM

There looks to be stock of the One S available in loads of Gamestops at the minute. Shouldn't be to hard to pick one up today i'd say.

Mickeroo · 02-08-2016 08:59AM

emmetkenny wrote: »

There looks to be stock of the One S available in loads of Gamestops at the minute. Shouldn't be to hard to pick one up today i'd say.

Do it...

Pickpocket · 02-08-2016 09:00AM

Hi guys. I'm a PS4 owner with a pay-packet that's burning a hole in my pocket. So I'm on the verge of impulse buying a One S. Help me make a more considered decision!

I had both a PS3 and 360 for years and always preferred the Xbox controller. In fact I prefer all three generations of Xbox controller over their Sony equivalent.

However I don't think I'm quite impulsive enough to splash out €400 for just that factor alone, so I'm looking for something else to hook me in. Backwards compatibility with a lot of 360 games is a huge draw as I still haven't played the likes of Red Dead yet. But how about upcoming exclusives? Is there anything exciting on the horizon?

TitianGerm · 02-08-2016 09:12AM

Pickpocket wrote: »

Hi guys. I'm a PS4 owner with a pay-packet that's burning a hole in my pocket. So I'm on the verge of impulse buying a One S. Help me make a more considered decision!

I had both a PS3 and 360 for years and always preferred the Xbox controller. In fact I prefer all three generations of Xbox controller over their Sony equivalent.

However I don't think I'm quite impulsive enough to splash out €400 for just that factor alone, so I'm looking for something else to hook me in. Backwards compatibility with a lot of 360 games is a huge draw as I still haven't played the likes of Red Dead yet. But how about upcoming exclusives? Is there anything exciting on the horizon?

I think GameStop will give you €240 for your PS4 so the One S will only cost you €160

TitianGerm · 02-08-2016 09:13AM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Do it...

I'm on my way to IKEA now

I might pick it up the weekend.

Mickeroo · 02-08-2016 09:17AM

Pickpocket wrote: »

Hi guys. I'm a PS4 owner with a pay-packet that's burning a hole in my pocket. So I'm on the verge of impulse buying a One S. Help me make a more considered decision!

I had both a PS3 and 360 for years and always preferred the Xbox controller. In fact I prefer all three generations of Xbox controller over their Sony equivalent.

However I don't think I'm quite impulsive enough to splash out €400 for just that factor alone, so I'm looking for something else to hook me in. Backwards compatibility with a lot of 360 games is a huge draw as I still haven't played the likes of Red Dead yet. But how about upcoming exclusives? Is there anything exciting on the horizon?

I think the main upcoming exclusives are Gears of War 4, Scalebound, Recore and Sea of Thieves.

Recore and Sea of Thieves (multiplayer pirate shenanigans) look really good, Scalebound I'm not so sure and Gears is Gears.
EA access is also worth looking into, you get a lot of games for €25 a year.

CatInABox · 02-08-2016 09:27AM

Pickpocket wrote: »

Hi guys. I'm a PS4 owner with a pay-packet that's burning a hole in my pocket. So I'm on the verge of impulse buying a One S. Help me make a more considered decision!

I had both a PS3 and 360 for years and always preferred the Xbox controller. In fact I prefer all three generations of Xbox controller over their Sony equivalent.

However I don't think I'm quite impulsive enough to splash out €400 for just that factor alone, so I'm looking for something else to hook me in. Backwards compatibility with a lot of 360 games is a huge draw as I still haven't played the likes of Red Dead yet. But how about upcoming exclusives? Is there anything exciting on the horizon?

A really quick look around shows me these:

Crackdown 3
Dead Rising 4
Forza Horizon 3
Gears of War 4
Halo Wars 2
Phantom Dust
ReCore
Sea of Thieves
State of Decay 2
Scalebound
Below
Cuphead
Gigantic

Personally, I'm looking forward to Crackdown, Forza Horizon, Recore, Sea of Thieves and Below. The others are worth keeping an eye on, I think.

In the interest of honesty, I should note that Crackdown 3 has the potential to be a total failure. Just a vibe I'm picking up from the total lack of information being released.

ReCore is being made by a Metroid Prime guy, and is along those lines, so that's me involved. Might not be everyones cup of tea though.

There's other games that I can't remember as well.

Also, every controller that you've ever held is a dirty peasant controller compared to the Elite controller. Expensive, but so so worth it.

Batesy · 02-08-2016 09:45AM

Still heard nothing from Smyths regarding my One S pre order.

Edit: just got an 'in progress' e-mail. Phew.

GottaGetGatt · 02-08-2016 10:13AM

Will current games be upscaled to 4K with the Xbox One S provided you have a 4K tv of course ?

CatInABox · 02-08-2016 10:19AM

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

Will current games be upscaled to 4K with the Xbox One S provided you have a 4K tv of course ?

Yes, everything is upscaled, unless of course, it's native 4k.

FAILSAFE 00 · 02-08-2016 10:41AM

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

Will current games be upscaled to 4K with the Xbox One S provided you have a 4K tv of course ?

Yes, Any decent 4K TV will have an upscaler anyway. Works well with the original Xbox One.

TitianGerm · 02-08-2016 10:54AM

One of the lads just traded in his 1TB Xbox One against the One S in GameStop.

Should have been €180 to upgrade but ended up paying €170 and got a €40 headset and 3 month Live card for that €170.

That_Guy · 02-08-2016 11:47AM

Pickpocket wrote: »

Hi guys. I'm a PS4 owner with a pay-packet that's burning a hole in my pocket. So I'm on the verge of impulse buying a One S. Help me make a more considered decision!

I'm a fairly recent adapter to Xbox One having owned a PS4 for the last number of years and to be honest, my experience of both consoles have been the same thus far.

Both have great exclusives (out already or upcoming) so having both consoles is a positive in that regard.

If you don't have a budget and still have a bit of breathing space I would recommend getting an Xbox One BUT I can only speak on behalf of myself and the route I went down.

I bought a current model of Xbox One right before E3 for a pretty good price. Around €250 with a crop of games.

I don't necessarily regret not waiting for an Xbox One S but Scorpio is due out late next year so I figure I'd pay a relatively small price now and save for Scorpio next year.

Like I say, I'm happy with my purchase despite a newer, seemingly more powerful model but to tell you the truth, I don't care a huge amount about how much processing power and other bits and pieces it has.

The games are fun. Sunset Overdrive was worth shelling out for alone and The Master Chief Collection is value for money. Upcoming titles such as Sea of Thieves, Gears 4 and Recore have a lot of people excited and it's a pretty good time to own both with some nice looking exclusives on the horizon.

I have no regrets anyway. Your back log may just increase ten fold but sure that's the norm these days.

McDermotX · 02-08-2016 12:52PM

Had a quick look at the S unit there, but won't get to try it until after.
Lovely device, very sharp looking....pad feels nice but it's no Elite.

CatInABox · 02-08-2016 02:37PM

Reviews of the Xbox One S are all out, and it's kinda as expected. Most seem to think it's what the console should have been in the first place, 4K is nice to have, but not enough content is available. Some reviews are saying the fans are louder, others say it's quieter.

Also some complaints over the whole HDR10 thing, with some saying that monitors that should be supported aren't.

I'm kinda tempted. If there's a good trade in offer, I might take it.

Xbox One General Discussion - Part 2 (Please Read 1st Post)

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