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Women changing their surname on marriage

  • 30-07-2016 02:28PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,177 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I know this doesn't always happen but in the huge majority of cases it does. Is it just a traditional thing? Why not let a couple choose if they want to use the woman's name?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Giacomo McGubbin


    Nobody's stopping them. Adults are free to legally change their names to whatever they want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭trixychic


    I personally hate my surname and can't wait to change to his. I know alot of others like me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I hadn't really thought of it much before I asked him if he wanted to marry me.
    But then I figured it would make life easier, because my maiden name is incredibly hard to spell (not only here, but back home in Germany, too. It's just a very awkward name), and his is... well, common as muck around here.
    So it really was just the most practial thing for me to do at the time :)

    I do know a few couples where the decision went the other way, though, mostly for similar reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    The one I cannot stand is the women who do the dreaded double barrelling - Mrs Mary Higgins O'Kelly returns from her honeymoon to work. F@ck off and pick one or the other. I deliberately ignore the surname to the left of the barrel and never refer to it. Mary Mitchell O'Connor would be Mrs O'Connor in every correspondence ever, or formal presentation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Lau2976


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    The one I cannot stand is the women who do the dreaded double barrelling - Mrs Mary Higgins O'Kelly returns from her honeymoon to work. F@ck off and pick one or the other. I deliberately ignore the surname to the left of the barrel and never refer to it. Mary Mitchell O'Connor would be Mrs O'Connor in every correspondence ever, or formal presentation

    Why? What difference does it make how many surnames someone has to you? I'm honestly just curious here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    What about Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo? Do people want to shorten that aswell? If Mary Mitchell O'Connor is her name, then call her Mary Mitchell O'Connor. What's the problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Why not let a couple choose if they want to use the woman's name?

    What makes you think they can't? You can change your name to pretty much whatever you like. Just don't go too mad like Princess Consweala Bananahammock or Kim Dotcom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,226 ✭✭✭gifted


    Hell yes...if herself wants to be buried with my lot then she takes the name of my lot....















    Please don't show her this ....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    We are all Number 1 now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Tipperary Fairy


    It's an old tradition that most people don't give much thought. Like engagement rings, it should die out if women really wanted independence and equality etc etc bla bla bla


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    myshirt wrote: »
    What about Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo? Do people want to shorten that aswell? If Mary Mitchell O'Connor is her name, then call her Mary Mitchell O'Connor. What's the problem?

    Well it gets a bit unwieldy after a generation or two of that kind of indulgence...

    Mary Mitchell O'Connor marries Michael Murphy Walsh... does she become Mary Mitchell O'Connor Murphy Walsh? And what the hell do they call the kids? And if you do go the whole hog for the quadruple barrel surname, and the kid marries another quad, do you go for an OCTOBARREL surname? :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Elliott S


    trixychic wrote: »
    I personally hate my surname and can't wait to change to his. I know alot of others like me.

    Same. We both have weird surnames but his is marginally less weird. If I wanted to keep my surname though, I would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Sure nobody has to change it, it's up to the woman if she wants to or not.

    Although I must admit if I ever have a kid I'd prefer if he/she had my surname.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Well it gets a bit unwieldy after a generation or two of that kind of indulgence...

    Mary Mitchell O'Connor marries Michael Murphy Walsh... does she become Mary Mitchell O'Connor Murphy Walsh? And what the hell do they call the kids? And if you do go the whole hog for the quadruple barrel surname, and the kid marries another quad, do you go for an OCTOBARREL surname? :o
    Self importance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Elliott S


    It's an old tradition that most people don't give much thought. Like engagement rings, it should die out if women really wanted independence and equality etc etc bla bla bla

    I don't have an engagement ring for a variety of reasons, indifference being a big one. I never realised until getting engaged how much societal pressure there is to have one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Joey Jo-Jo Junior


    myshirt wrote: »
    What about Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo? Do people want to shorten that aswell? If Mary Mitchell O'Connor is her name, then call her Mary Mitchell O'Connor. What's the problem?

    My friends call me Joey Jo-Jo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    Most of my married friends either use their own name or have double barreled. I can actually only think of two that became Mrs his name and one of those is in England where it still seems to be more expected.
    Personally my own surname sounds terrible double barreled with anything, so I'll never be changing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,037 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    trixychic wrote: »
    I personally hate my surname and can't wait to change to his. I know alot of others like me.

    Are they all related to you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    I like hyphenated surnames.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Lads I actually would like your opinion on something.

    What do you think of "O'Connor O'Neill"

    Too much of a mouthful with all the Os perhaps?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    trixychic wrote: »
    I personally hate my surname and can't wait to change to his. I know alot of others like me.

    What's your surname? As long as it isn't Ramsbottom or shufflebottom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,713 ✭✭✭Lisha


    I changed my name . Didn't see why not really. Through laziness though my bank account and visa are still in maiden name.
    We have joint acc in married name.
    It doesn't bother me if people use both or double barrel. Each to their own.
    Now that we have children it's easier that we all have the same name. Might be old fashioned but I'm happy with that. It work for us. If others choose differently then that's their business.

    Also I went from having on of Ireland most common surname to one of the most unusual. I hate spelling it got people all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I'm surprised this isn't some hot topic issue for femists out there :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Tipperary Fairy


    Elliott S wrote: »
    I don't have an engagement ring for a variety of reasons, indifference being a big one. I never realised until getting engaged how much societal pressure there is to have one!

    Yeah I bet.

    Even more basic things too, had a practical stranger enquire about me and my boyfriend getting married the other day. It's assumed you will, feel like you have to explain or give some reason as to why you don't want to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    Lads I actually would like your opinion on something.

    What do you think of "O'Connor O'Neill"

    Too much of a mouthful with all the Os perhaps?

    I don't mind double barrelled names per SR, but if it's already a name with an 'O' or a 'Mc' then it's a bit of a mouthful to double barrel. I am a Mc so never bothered hyphenating, I sort of half changed my name, passport and bank accounts still in maiden name, pretty much everything else in married name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    Lads I actually would like your opinion on something.

    What do you think of "O'Connor O'Neill"

    Too much of a mouthful with all the Os perhaps?

    Sounds a bit Downton Abbey. Presenting Lady O Connor O Neill. Has a nice ring to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Well it gets a bit unwieldy after a generation or two of that kind of indulgence...

    Mary Mitchell O'Connor marries Michael Murphy Walsh... does she become Mary Mitchell O'Connor Murphy Walsh? And what the hell do they call the kids? And if you do go the whole hog for the quadruple barrel surname, and the kid marries another quad, do you go for an OCTOBARREL surname? :o

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Drax

    Brother of the poet Edward Plunkett (Lord Dunsany).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,552 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I was told last week in a complaining manner by the postman that people like me (who haven't changed their name) make his job more difficult.

    Nevermind that I have a career, publications and a reputation under my name. I should change it to make life easier for the postman.

    The Fecking cheek of him.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    I did change my name because I wanted to have the same name as my kids. Didn't change it on my passport or driving licence though.

    When I left my ex, I went back to my own name immediately coz the less I could have to do with him the better. It used to drive me mad though when schools would send out letters addressed to Mrs MarriedName. I would always respond with my maiden name and actually said it to the secretary that Mrs MarriedName was my ex-MIL and not to call me it again. They soon stopped.

    It was a bit awkward at first but they soon got used to it. Going to parent teacher meetings I would always introduce my self with my maiden name and say Son1 MarriedName's mum etc.

    So basically I can understand why people change, particularly if they are having kids but I would never change mine now. It is very much my identity and it is quite unusual and I love it so won't be giving it up for no man, no sireeee.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    If I ever get married, I'm keeping my name. I'm no man's possession.


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